Are millenials entitled?

[stinkynuts]

Seems that the millenials I know are very lazy and entitled.

They'll spend hundrds of dollars on stupid stuff like gaming computers, laze around all day gaming and watching Netflix, and not have full-time work. They think streaming on Twitch, doing Onlyfans, becoming a Youtuber, or influencer is a legitimate job that benefits society, and refuse to do hard work. Most have been pampered their whole lives, and don't have the work ethic, social skills, or discipline to make it in the real world. Compare that to the boomers, who actually supported a family and had full-time jobs instead of gaming all day and ordering Uber Eats.

You see so many of these millenials delivering for Door Dash, and getting pissed off for not being tipped, and doing a lousy job by not delivering to the door, or even stealing. They refuse to work hard, but will take out loans to buy fancy cars, go on vacation so they can instagram it, and get their groceries from Whole Foods, and their coffee from Starbucks. Most hard-working middle aged men I know don't go to Starbucks and spend $5 on a coffee. They go to Tim Hortons or McDonald's where they get it for half the price.

 

[stinkynuts]

I seem to remember a similar term for Gen-X.....

"Slackers", was it??????

So either each succesive generation is actually getting softer, or each previous generation is seeing the next generation as soft and entitled.

 

[saxon]

Social media has destroyed our society, especially the younger ones. They are now all growing up feeling entitled to everything and not having to work for it.

 

[explorerzip]

It's the same with every generation, but the conditions are always different. The baby boomers got the sweetest deals in history. Most never went to war, yet reaped the benefits of a greatly expanding post-war economy filled with loads of technological innovations. While technology always moves forward, I don't know if there's been any huge leap forward in decades. Many products and technologies are mature now so we're iterating and not innovating anymore.

In computing, PC manufacturers used to focus on specs like MHz, hard drive or RAM capacity. Today, you hardly hear about those specs because devices are so fast, efficient and have huge capacity while still being fairly cheap. People don't care about performance anymore. They want more features no matter how small they are. That's why this year's iPhone, cars, computers, etc are nearly identical to last year's model.

As for pursuing YouTube as a career, it's actually a lot harder than it looks. Perhaps you've heard of a channel called Linus Tech Tips? It was just a hobby at first, yet today he has multiple buildings and employs over 100 people. There are plenty of other channels with much fewere people where you can tell they put everything into making quality content.

Besides, why would anyone in their right mind want to work hard for a big company these days? You're just going to get laid off at some point anyway. So you may as well try to do your own thing. Even if you fail, you can only blame yourself.

Yes, there are lots of "lazy and entitled" people out there. There are also just as many innovative, enterprising or just hard workers out there too.

 

[Mr Deeds]

Well being that I am a boomer my parents used the TV as a babysitter sometimes there was still lots of time to explore, create, play sports, learn and grow, with the internet has taken something away from this young generation. I don't see many innovators or do it yourselfers. But then again it's a different world today and I maybe out of touch

 

[Not getting younger]

As you age, you gain wisdom. Life experiences tend to teach that. I marvel when I listen to kids (yes they are still kids) talking. Think they know all about life…But when I was in my 20s I was no different. Pretty sure when I was 20-35ish I resented hearing “kids today”…

Then sometimes I think wisdom just means, while I step on far fewer land mines. There’s still plenty I step on…

Do I think Milenials and even gen Z are entitled. Absolutely they are. Lol, when was the term “helicopter parenting” coined as but one example. With technology today, the world should be their oyster. And yet, sooo many,…………….of coarse there are exceptions, broad brush strokes and generalities…there’s soooooo much more that could be pointed at.


hard truth.
We are all, products of our environments and upbringing, no matter our ages. So who created the world they live in. Who created the conditions, who forgot to be parents……..

Boomers.

our only job as parents is to give our kids the tools they will need to navigate life. Have a problem with Milennials? Look in the mirror imo.

 

[bazokajoe]

When describing a younger generation as "lazy" or "entitled", we should remember that the previous generation set up the conditions that allowed such "laziness" and "entitlement" to exist. We didn't have to embrace the Internet, Social Media or smart phones. We could have thought about the consequences of each. Instead, we just lived with them, thinking that we had no choice. We all chose addiction over reason, and we turn around and blame the next generation for taking advantage of the technology and the capabilities that arose. We chose not to get rid of fast food, delivery services of fast food, and the service industry that made that delivery so convenient.

Millennials and Gen-Z will embrace AI, just like we did the Internet and Smart Phones. The generation after them will blame them for the problems that will arise.....

If Millennials are indeed lazy and entitled, guess who's fault it is?????

Their own fault!!
Taking stupid useless courses at University and bitching about having to work at Starbucks and having to live with a roommates. What do they expect with a useless degree. Then they bitch bout interest rates being so high. Guess what, they were alot higher when I bought a house than they are now. I sacrificed other things to be independent and not cry about how tough things are.
Their parents don't drop the hammer on them when it needs to be.

 

[explorerzip]

Their own fault!!
Taking stupid useless courses at University and bitching about having to work at Starbucks and having to live with a roommates. What do they expect with a useless degree. Then they bitch bout interest rates being so high. Guess what, they were alot higher when I bought a house than they are now. I sacrificed other things to be independent and not cry about how tough things are.
Their parents don't drop the hammer on them when it needs to be.

Actually, the parents did drop the hammer. They pushed and paid for them to get the useless degree.

 

[bazokajoe]

What made the degree useless? Did you live through both a horrible recession and a crippling pandemic in one lifetime when you were "making your way"? Weird. I don't remember both happening in the past, just in the past few years.....

Ponder on that.....

Are you 20 years old?
You think the only recession is happening now? This current "recession" is nothing, if we are even having one.
Back in the 70's there was this thing called the oil embargo. Basically the Middle East was pissed off and stopped sending oil to the USA. There were line ups at gas stations and some stations were closed altogether due to no supply. Inflation went through the roof.
When I was first looking for a house in the early 90's interest rates were double digit. Rates are a bargain now.
Useless degrees are courses like philosophy, english lit, gender studies. Where do you think those courses are going to get you in life?

Read a history book once and awhile.

During the 1973 Arab-Israeli War, Arab members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) imposed an embargo against the United States in retaliation for the U.S. decision to re-supply the Israeli military and to gain leverage in the post-war peace negotiations

Here is a little chart of inflation rates from 1960- 2023

Canada Inflation Rate 1960-2023

Inflation as measured by the consumer price index reflects the annual percentage change in the cost to the average consumer of acquiring a basket of goods and services that may be fixed or changed at specified intervals, such as yearly. The Laspeyres formula is generally used.

www.macrotrends.net

Here is a chart for Mortgage rates from 1975 to now.

Mortgage Rate History - Super Brokers

Canadian historical mortgage rates for prime rates, variable rates and fixed terms. Ten year rate history report for mortgages of several mortgage terms.

www.superbrokers.ca

Ponder on that

 

[james t kirk]

Depends on the millenial's age grouping.. I am a millenial but on the oldest end of the spectrum. I don't think I do any of these things. The youngest ones however seem to.

I would agree with this.

The older ones are fine.

The younger ones, well, not so much. There was definitely an inflection point in there somewhere where it all changed.

 

[james t kirk]

What made the degree useless? Did you live through both a horrible recession and a crippling pandemic in one lifetime when you were "making your way"? Weird. I don't remember both happening in the past, just in the past few years.....

Ponder on that.....

You think there's been a recession in the last few years?

Seriously, you reaally think there's been a serious recession in the last few years?

Buddy, we've been really fortunate.

The last "serious recession was 1992 / 1993. That was fucking crazy. It started in 91 and didn't end until 95 (for all intents and purposes). I saw 20% (or more) youth unemployment. No jobs for college and university graduates. Real estate prices cut by 40% that didn't recover for 10 years. Double digit interest rates. It was the worst economic contraction since the Great Depression in Canada. There was work sharing and Rae Days.

There has been nothing even close to it since.

And the pandemic was made far worse than it had to be by governments who didn't have a clue of what to do

. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-001-x/2009103/quickfact-enbref-eng.htm

 

[ramblin]

Are millenials entitled?

Definitetly and get the hell off my lawn.

 

[explorerzip]

What made the degree useless? Did you live through both a horrible recession and a crippling pandemic in one lifetime when you were "making your way"? Weird. I don't remember both happening in the past, just in the past few years.....

Ponder on that.....

Degrees are not really useless they're just expensive. There are infinite examples of people not working in the field that they studied in school. There are also infinite examples of people meeting friends, business partners, SO's etc that they might not have otherwise.

 

[Not getting younger]

/chuckle.

-just a few bullits.
The last serious recessionary period was the financial crises that started in 2008…….My how quickly we forget And yes, we have seen numerous quarters of contraction since 2019

Worthless pedigrees.
There is truth to that.
Not sure when it really began, maybe the 80s.
But at some point parents (society) started putting enormous pressure on their kids to go to post. Many think it’s the only way to define success today. In fact, once boomers are done leaving the work force, many labour markets anticipate shortages. Everyone wants a pedigree, few want dirty jobs…Be that the trades, trucking, etc and etc.

Furthermore, on that topic. Is the school of thought that so many fields, have devalued the degrees. In short, supply>>>>demand.
We can see that, in the staggering numbers of kids that leave post with mountains of debt, and can’t find work in the related fields………
Numerous studies are also showing that Depression/anxiety is soaring amongst those in post. Mom/dad pressuring them to be Drs/Lawyers, when they just want to open a coffee shop. But that’s not what people/society think is a worthwhile and succesful life….mountains of debt, stiff competition for fewer jobs….

And in fact, these days, if you don’t have a pedigree of any kind. Have fun getting a job as a taxi driver, a mail room clerk at a big firm. Basically even entry level positions….Etc and so on..

-Rae days.
Came about because Bob Rae promised oodles of goodies to everyone, especially unionized public service employees, who to that point, historically supported the NDP….When to everyone surprise he won. Well he had to try and make good. He flushed Ontarios fiscal house down the toilet…Faced with out of control spending, debt, credit rating downgrades, he had to try and get it order. Hence Rae days. Unions bailed, got pissy, stopped supporting the NDP….and filling him the oh so popular “common sense revolution” but ever since Rae it’s been a shit show…but for what it’s worth, people obviously didn’t learn that painful lesson. We are in the same boat again. Mountains of debt, no money to try and close growing gaps in Healthcare, fix the good awful mess Hydro and rates are, no money for rainy days because the sun always shines. Etc etc.
It’s odd because ever since Rae we’ve had NDP, CON,LIB governments. All 3 political ideologies and nothing but problems. One common denominator (outside of everyone buying votes)

unionized public service employees, none more so….than those in

education.

As it relates to youth today. Boomers screwed the pooch.

 

[DesRicardo]

Compare that to the boomers, who actually supported a family and had full-time jobs instead of gaming all day and ordering Uber Eats.

Whatever you say boomer.

 

[Not getting younger]

Whatever you say boomer.

couple things to consider though.
Unions are a big problem these days.
In private they often price themselves out of jobs
In public they have way, way, way too much power. There isn’t a politician that doesn’t fear them. Those that do try to stand up to them, often have short shelf lives. They used to be about better paying jobs, safety etc. these days they political beast.

which, is sad. Because not only do they have way too much influence. They are eating their own. So many deserving areas in need of love (think just LTCs, PSWs, EAs/ECEs) who can’t get the time of day, because there’s nothing left..

otherwise. Spot on.

 

[rhuarc29]

Seems that the millenials I know are very lazy and entitled.

They'll spend hundrds of dollars on stupid stuff like gaming computers, laze around all day gaming and watching Netflix, and not have full-time work. They think streaming on Twitch, doing Onlyfans, becoming a Youtuber, or influencer is a legitimate job that benefits society, and refuse to do hard work. Most have been pampered their whole lives, and don't have the work ethic, social skills, or discipline to make it in the real world. Compare that to the boomers, who actually supported a family and had full-time jobs instead of gaming all day and ordering Uber Eats.

You see so many of these millenials delivering for Door Dash, and getting pissed off for not being tipped, and doing a lousy job by not delivering to the door, or even stealing. They refuse to work hard, but will take out loans to buy fancy cars, go on vacation so they can instagram it, and get their groceries from Whole Foods, and their coffee from Starbucks. Most hard-working middle aged men I know don't go to Starbucks and spend $5 on a coffee. They go to Tim Hortons or McDonald's where they get it for half the price.

Yes and no.

For the record, what someone does in their leisure time shouldn't define them as lazy/entitled. What was available to boomers may have been different, but it's not like boomers didn't make use of their leisure time.
Similarly, streaming on Twitch, Onlyfans, Youtube, etc., are forms of entertainment. You can't say they're not a legitimate job unless you're also saying movie actor or theater performer aren't legitimate professions.

Millennials definitely lack for financial sense. But whose failure is that? We don't teach it in schools, and if parents also don't teach it, Millennials are thrown into a world they don't understand. Do they have unrealistic expectations for standard of living? Yes, because they grew up under parents who had the most opportunity in history, only to find when the apron strings are cut, they themselves aren't in that world. The opportunities that were available back then simply don't exist anymore. Home ownership is out of reach for most young folks (without significant financial assistance), even a new car costs a whole year's salary, they are virtually required to get a degree in order to land a decent job (and therefore start in a debt hole), and on and on.

So are they entitled? Many are. Are they get shafted in life? Most definitely.

 

[LC18]

I think a lot of us just realized we might never be able to afford a decent house with today's housing market and just decided to do what makes us happy instead of k*lling ourselves at work doing a job that we don't really like. You could buy a house for 80k back in the 90s and for the same house today you'd have to pay 350k yet salaries didn't go up as much.

Are millennials lazy? No. Are they following society's idea of productivity? Probably not. They seek comfort over anything which can make them appear lazy. We no longer want a 9-5, commute to work and only a handful of days off per year. If being an influencer allows you to make money while being able to enjoy your life, go for it.


If we paid doctors, teachers and everyone else more decently, we'd probably have more "beneficial" workers.

 

[K Douglas]

9 people have voted no so far. Either they are millenials or they have suffered a recent head injury.
Gen Z'ers are even worse.

 

[K Douglas]

I would agree with this.

The older ones are fine.

The younger ones, well, not so much. There was definitely an inflection point in there somewhere where it all changed.

I'd generally agree with this. I'm friends with a few guys that were born in the early-mid 80's and they don't fit the entitled narrative.