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Frankfooter said:
Ah yes, you don't think Palestinians have the rights to have their side heard and think anything critical of apartheid, settler colonialism and violence against civilians is antisemitic.
Instead you're here defending people like Ben Gvir and his call for ethnic cleansing and slaughter.

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anytime you lie and slander me i will pull up your terrorist promoting and antisemitic postings





defending PFLP Terrorist organization



defending the Fatah organization that recently called for terrorist attacks against Israel




Franky defending the terrorists that were killed after shooting at the IDF



Franky defending an anti-jewish hate crime vandalism




citing an anti-semitic, terrorist supporter Sana Saeed




defending terrorist organzation calling themselves the lions den





refusing to condemn anti-jewish hate crimes in New York



Justifying the murder of civilians




franky supports the right of palestinians to commit terrorism against jews and israelis



justifying the killing of Israeli Civilians


franky's continued justification for terrorist attacks





promoting a youtube channel that promotes holocaust denialism, anti-semitic claims of jewish control, the khazaria myth, and terror apologism




franky used an anti-semitic term "Jewish Supremacy" which is used by white supremacists, neo nazis and other anti-jewish types to demonize jews



refusing to condemn an antisemitic grafiti on a Barcelona synagogue

which means he defend hate crime vandalism of synagogues






still refusing to condemn anti-jewish hate crimes in Barcelona and instead post content from CJPME An anti-jewish organization whose members
defaced products in a Jewish Store and claim jews are more loyal to Israel than Canada



evidence of CJPME inciting anti-jewish hate



franky defending terrorists in gaza launching rockets at civilians which are terrorism and war crimes




franky refuse to coondment anti-jewish hate crimes in an Australian University and instead linke to a hamas linked website




Franky refuse to condemn Hezbollah thugs who blasted a Hezebollah song at a Jewish School and instead resort to gaslighting




franky says terrorist supporters targetting jewish children with terrorist music is free speech



franky posting an image promoting terrorism and ethnic cleansing of Jews




franky defends terrorists shooting at a mother driving her kids




franky continues to justify terrorism against civilians driving cars with israeli plates and calling a 15 year old child a militant






franky calling civilian Jews terrorists

 
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Frankfooter said:
You are lying.
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Hmm.
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How do differentiate between 'random Jews' and terrorists now?
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You've convinced yourself that being Jewish in "Palestinian Land" means you aren't a civilian even though your own rights groups and international law are 100% clear. At the same time you bitch and moan that Israel dare shoot back when Palestinian gunmen attack them.

And sorry but as we've discussed before, you've been quite okay when Palestinian governments endorse or commit attacks on civilians. There's only one of us who's condemned terrorism from both Jews and Palestinians.
 
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Hmm.


You've convinced yourself that being Jewish in "Palestinian Land" means you aren't a civilian even though your own rights groups and international law are 100% clear. At the same time you bitch and moan that Israel dare shoot back when Palestinian gunmen attack them.

And sorry but as we've discussed before, you've been quite okay when Palestinian governments endorse or commit attacks on civilians. There's only one of us who's condemned terrorism from both Jews and Palestinians.
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Not at all, basketcase.
Its a war crime to target civilians.

You keep arguing that Israel is justified in killing Palestinian civilians if they think they are militants.
Your logic says that if Palestinians think settlers are terrorists they are justified in targeting them.

With all the recent attacks its reasonable for Palestinians to assume settlers are militant, so it's now up to Israel and the illegal settlers to prove they aren't militant terrorists.

West Bank: Over 85 settler attacks recorded under one week
Israeli security officials warn ongoing violence against Palestinian villages in occupied land could lead to loss of control

Israel and the IDF won't protect them.
www.timesofisrael.com

Can’t or won’t? IDF fails to prevent settler attacks, and that’s unlikely to change

While soldiers are legally permitted to detain Israeli suspects, for years the army has preferred it to be a matter for police, whose forces are stretched thin in West Bank
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com

Go ahead, explain how you can tell if these are militants or civilans.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1672695889851187202

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1671623951070515205

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1672699888449236993

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1671230662064340999
 
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Frankfooter said:
Not at all, basketcase.
Its a war crime to target civilians.
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So why do you keep claiming supporting Palestinians militants 'right' to attack Jewish civilians? Oh that's right. You claim (despite what your own rights groups say) that being a Jew in the West Bank nullifies civilian status.

Even more fucked up is at the same time that you justify killing Jews, you try to pretend Palestinian gunmen actively shooting at Jews can't be touched.

And even beyond that, you have repeatedly called Gaza rockets self defence and your only comment about the Palestinians who ran down a bunch of pedestrians was to pretend that the dead tourist was actually killed by Israelis.

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With all the recent attacks its reasonable for Palestinians to assume settlers are militant, so it's now up to Israel and the illegal settlers to prove they aren't militant terrorists.
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Pretty fucking disgusting when you freely support crimes against humanity.
 
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basketcase said:
So why do you keep claiming supporting Palestinians militants 'right' to attack Jewish civilians? Oh that's right. You claim (despite what your own rights groups say) that being a Jew in the West Bank nullifies civilian status.
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No, being a Jew doesn't nullify civilian status. Stop lying about what I say here.

In war you are not allowed to target civilians. If you think they are militants, reasonably, you are allowed to target them.
I've posted numerous examples here and even you can't explain how you can differentiate between militant settlers and civilian settlers.

Israeli security forces say settler attacks on Palestinians are 'nationalist terrorism'
Army, police and domestic security service chiefs pledge to counter increase in violence by West Bank settlers

Are Palestinians not allowed to defend themselves against terrorist attacks?

The Israeli government's minister of the interior has stated he supports attacking civilian Palestinians and taking their land.
In fiery security meeting, Ben Gvir said to defend violent settlers as ‘sweet kids’
National security minister refuses to issue condemnation of recent rampages in Palestinian villages, as Gallant accuses him of paying ‘lip service’ to law and order

The Israeli government is not only actively supporting attacks but refusing to press charges for those attacks.
Four Months After Hawara Settler Riots, Israel Fails to Prosecute Individuals Involved
Although 17 settlers suspected of involvement in the Hawara pogrom were arrested in the days after the rampage, most of them were released within days of their initial arrest
 
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If I reject the premise that ancient scripture confers title to any land, does that make me anti Semitic, or just some kind of atheist?
 
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y2kmark said:
If I reject the premise that ancient scripture confers title to any land, does that make me anti Semitic, or just some kind of atheist?
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Antisemitic on this board.

But then its probably antisemitic to note that Israel's new national guard wants to shoot the native population between the eyes.
mondoweiss.net

An Israeli colonel helping to form Itamar Ben-Gvir’s ‘national guard’ called for killing ‘enemy’ civilians ‘between the eyes’

A member of the steering committee for Itamar Ben-Gvir’s prospective private militia wants to eliminate the distinction between civilians and noncombatants — not just for Palestinians, but also between Israeli settlers and the army.
mondoweiss.net mondoweiss.net
 
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Frankfooter said:
Antisemitic on this board.

But then its probably antisemitic to note that Israel's new national guard wants to shoot the native population between the eyes.
mondoweiss.net

An Israeli colonel helping to form Itamar Ben-Gvir’s ‘national guard’ called for killing ‘enemy’ civilians ‘between the eyes’

A member of the steering committee for Itamar Ben-Gvir’s prospective private militia wants to eliminate the distinction between civilians and noncombatants — not just for Palestinians, but also between Israeli settlers and the army.
mondoweiss.net mondoweiss.net
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Will they start taking scalps to keep score better?
 
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Frankfooter said:
No, being a Jew doesn't nullify civilian status. Stop lying about what I say here.
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Holy shit. Are you seriously trying to deny what you've repeatedly argued?

You keep claiming it's okay for Palestinians to attack Jews because they aren't sure if some of them are militants despite what every single on of your rights groups say. How is it you can argue that being Jewish and stopping for gas entitles Palestinians to attack them while also claiming that it's wrong for Israel to shoot back at Palestinian gunmen?

Yes, we know the answer is your dual racism, thinking Jews should have no rights where they are living while denying that Palestinians have the capability of being accountable for their actions.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Antisemitic on this board.
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At least according to Canada


  • alling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
  • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
  • Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
  • Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
  • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
  • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
At least you're not a holocaust denier.
 
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basketcase said:
At least according to Canada


  • alling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
  • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
  • Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
  • Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
  • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
  • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
At least you're not a holocaust denier.
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You tick all the boxes.

Anti-Palestinian racism is a form of anti-Arab racism that silences, excludes, erases, stereotypes, defames or dehumanizes Palestinians or their narratives. Anti-Palestinian racism takes various forms including:

  • denying the Nakba and justifying violence against Palestinians;
  • failing to acknowledge Palestinians as an Indigenous people with a collective identity, belonging and rights in relation to occupied and historic Palestine;
  • erasing the human rights and equal dignity and worth of Palestinians;
  • excluding or pressuring others to exclude Palestinian perspectives, Palestinians and their allies;
  • defaming Palestinians and their allies with slander such as being inherently antisemitic, a terrorist threat/sympathizer or opposed to democratic values.
 
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basketcase said:
Holy shit. Are you seriously trying to deny what you've repeatedly argued?

You keep claiming it's okay for Palestinians to attack Jews because they aren't sure if some of them are militants despite what every single on of your rights groups say. How is it you can argue that being Jewish and stopping for gas entitles Palestinians to attack them while also claiming that it's wrong for Israel to shoot back at Palestinian gunmen?

Yes, we know the answer is your dual racism, thinking Jews should have no rights where they are living while denying that Palestinians have the capability of being accountable for their actions.
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You're arguing that the native population doesn't have the right to self defence against terrorists now.
Do you or do you not agree that Palestinians have the right to self defence against terrorism?
 
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basketcase said:
At least according to Canada

  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
At least you're not a holocaust denier.
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The IHRA definition of antisemitism isn't even supported by all Jewish Canadians.
Even so, your continual attempt to brand my criticism of the state of Israel and its policy as 'antisemitic' means that you are the one that is guilty of antisemitism, not me.
I criticize Israeli policy and continually note that its not supported by all Jewish people and you continue to claim that posting reports on Israeli state apartheid is 'antisemtic'.
You failed your own test.
According to the definition you posted you are the antisemite here, not me.


 
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