Olivia Chow wins!

K Douglas

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A little consolation to righties. Remember David Dinkens was mayor of New York city for 4 years in the early 1990's, but for the next 20 years was followed by Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg. Chin up, righties!!!!
8 years of the disastrous Miller administration led to the election of Rob Ford. 8 years of the disastrous Obama administration led to the election of Donald Trump. History should repeat itself after Chow but unfortunately it will be too late.
 
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Well good luck to Toronto. Hopefully I won't regret buying a house there last year.
Has an elected NDP'er ever actually run anything anywhere with a modicum of competence? Maybe Saskatchewan but that's a low bar.
 
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I suspect this will end up in this hour has 22 minutes and this board will get no writing credits......
Typical Toronto centric naval gazing tunnel vision mentality.
Hamilton did it first and did it best with Andrea Horvath as mayor ! She was leader of the opposition, Kathleen Wynne's bestie and wasted more tax dollars calling a byelection just after she was elected in her own riding before making the safe jump to run for mayor.
If none of you can see the humour, sarcasm and irony in the juxtaposition of geographic rivalry/bigotry (Argos-Tiger Cats, Hogtown-Steeltown), actual city firsts (hamilton had the first stop light, radio station and phone exchange) then everyone needs a vacation from the keyboard.
Happy Canada Day.......
 

K Douglas

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RIP the private spa in Ontario Place, RIP moving the Science Centre.
The question is does DoFo panic and try to take away the strong mayor powers he gave Tory, his pal.
RIP law and order. RIP fiscal sanity.
 

K Douglas

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I suspect this will end up in this hour has 22 minutes and this board will get no writing credits......
Typical Toronto centric naval gazing tunnel vision mentality.
Hamilton did it first and did it best with Andrea Horvath as mayor ! She was leader of the opposition, Kathleen Wynne's bestie and wasted more tax dollars calling a byelection just after she was elected in her own riding before making the safe jump to run for mayor.
If none of you can see the humour, sarcasm and irony in the juxtaposition of geographic rivalry/bigotry (Argos-Tiger Cats, Hogtown-Steeltown), actual city firsts (hamilton had the first stop light, radio station and phone exchange) then everyone needs a vacation from the keyboard.
Happy Canada Day.......
In April 2023 Hamilton declared a city wide state of emergency due to opioids, homelessness and mental health crises. Horvath is in way over her head. Just like Chow.
 

K Douglas

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Tory and DoFo left us with a massive deficit already.
Time for someone to fix it.
The left wing wackadoodles on city council share no blame in that of course :rolleyes:
 
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I'm less worried over certain things then others.

She won't get a tax hike higher than 5%. Council, even some if the left leaning ones know that will end their careers. She is going to have to make concessions to get provincial funding. If she tries to bully pulpit Ford it will fail miserably. She promised not to use the new powers. If she does for a massive hike then I think council will reverse it. She squeaked enough she doesn't have the mandate.

The big concerns will be homeless encampments, Gardiner idiocy, and other attempts to change plans set up.
 
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The reality is the majority of voters voted against chow when you add up the votes for other candidates. Add into that the low voter turn out it means many didn’t vote chow. So those who didn’t vote should not be whining as apathy has repercussions. We will see what happens especially with the financial shortfall. The only response to any whining is a very simple response is “did you vote?” If they didn’t then indirectly they voted for the changes that come. Fiscal reality is something that impacts decisions either taxes and fees will go up or services will be cut. It should be an interesting ride.
 
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I wonder if she will pull the scam she did with Jack Layton and move back into Toronto Community Housing to save rent. Meanwhile some family in desperate need of housing will be left out on the street. All you people so happy tonight are going to be calling for her head within a year.
 
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The reality is the majority of voters voted against chow when you add up the votes for other candidates. Add into that the low voter turn out it means many didn’t vote chow. So those who didn’t vote should not be whining as apathy has repercussions. We will see what happens especially with the financial shortfall. The only response to any whining is a very simple response is “did you vote?” If they didn’t then indirectly they voted for the changes that come. Fiscal reality is something that impacts decisions either taxes and fees will go up or services will be cut. It should be an interesting ride.
The other reality is that the majority of voters voted against Doug Ford's conservatives in the 2022 provincial election.

1) Doug Ford and his Cons: 40.8% of all votes cast
Liberals, NDP, Greens: 53.5% of all votes cast

2) Voter turnout was just 43.5% of eligible voters in Ontario. So, when adjusting for this turnout it appears that Doug Ford and his conservatives received just a 17.7% mandate from all eligible voters in Ontario.

Given that because of his politics of steamrolling over the interests of the public realm in his subservience to the interests of private sector, his current polling of just 33% deflates his 17.7% mandate to less than 13%.

Yes, because the supremacy of the provincial government over all cities, towns, villages, burgs in Ontario allows him to wield a big club, battering ram and steamroller to enforce his will against the will of municipal and regional authorities he will have to answer to the people now, in the next election or in a court of law.
 
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The opioid crisis will not be solved at the municipal level. The controlled substances are smuggled into Canada and the borders are a Federal responsibility as is law making. The fentanyl in Toronto is coming in from China and Mexico.
The mayor of Toronto doesn’t create the junkies but is left to look after them.
A lot of the drug lords and gun runners in the GTA do not even live in Toronto.
Most of the substance abuse and treatment centres are in Toronto which is where the junkies get house, fed, get therapy and their drugs. Small town Ontario sends their junkies to Toronto for treatment.
 
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Anbarandy

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I'm less worried over certain things then others.

She won't get a tax hike higher than 5%. Council, even some if the left leaning ones know that will end their careers. She is going to have to make concessions to get provincial funding. If she tries to bully pulpit Ford it will fail miserably. She promised not to use the new powers. If she does for a massive hike then I think council will reverse it. She squeaked enough she doesn't have the mandate.

The big concerns will be homeless encampments, Gardiner idiocy, and other attempts to change plans set up.
Your second favorite mayor after Rob Ford, John the Philanderer Tory, last act as a disgraced mayor was personally putting thru a property tax/building levy hike of 7.2% for the 2023 fiscal year budget, $1.23billion of which is completely unfunded.

What concessions do you think she will make especially considering that she doesn't have anything with which to concede?

I hope you noted the mandate that Doug Ford actually has. 40.8% in 2022; 33% now vs Olivia's 38% now.

Better to focus on the cliff edge that Rob Ford and John Tory brought the City of Toronto to: A $1.5billion budget shortfall for the 2022 and 2023 budgets and a $46.5billion funding shortfall over the 10 next years and how to steer the city away from a financial apocalypse coming much, much sooner than anyone can imagine.
 
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A dire message for all the Never Chowers on this board:

"JULY 12th!!! THE RED APOCALYPSE COMETH! FURIOUS RED JUSTICE WILL RAIN IT'S RIGHTEOUS VENGEANCE UPON THEE!!!"

All roads and avenues of escape out of Toronto will be closed permanently by the new 'ruling party for life' at 12:00 am, July 12, 2023
 
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