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So why do you keep claiming israelis (Arab and Jewish) who want to remain israelis shouldn't be allowed to and Palestinians who don't want to be Israeli have to?
That's a straw man, I have never said this.
Typical basketcase post.

As I said, you claim Palestinians have a right to attack Jews and are free of consequence. Thanks for backing up everything I said. And sadly all your rights groups reject your (and hamas') argument. Again, if your terrorists want to attack military targets, that would be an act of war but that means as combatants, the IDF can shoot back. No part of international law accepts attacks targeting 100% civilian targets even if you pretend that all Jews are somehow militants.
That's a straw man as well. Palestinians have the right to self defence but not the right to target civilians.

First off, you can't read because I never said Palestinians have a right.
Agreed, you have repeatedly argued that Palestinians have zero rights.
Basically, you argue they are subhuman with no rights.

You are a pathetic liar on this. The people I call terrorists are https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-en.aspx. What makes this even more disguising is at the same time you deny that Hamas and PIJ are terrorists, you claim a 15 year old in the back of her mom's car or anyone with an Israeli licence plate is.
No, you called all the people killed during the Great March of Return 'terrorists', including women, children, medics and disabled.
The British woman's kid was a militant, not a terrorist, by the way. That makes that argument yet another straw man argument.

More of your bullshit. Your own rights groups describe Gaza rockets as incapable of being guided and you still call them legitimate self defence.
That's a straw man argument as well. I never said that.

There's a new group out.

ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL AND SHOULD BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT

100 faith based groups.
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That's a straw man, I have never said this.
You do know that the internet has a memory right?


That's a straw man as well. Palestinians have the right to self defence but not the right to target civilians.
So why do you keep justifying it?



Agreed, you have repeatedly argued that Palestinians have zero rights.
Basically, you argue they are subhuman with no rights.
Wow. this is so dumb that I would call it retarded if that term was still acceptable.


All your posts are full of asinine racist double standards making excuses for violence from Palestinian terrorists and for attacks on any Jew you want to pretend is "militantly' driving their car. Again, you have tried claiming that it illegal for Israel to fire back at Palestinian gunmen, claimed that it is illegal that Israel killed PIJ's war crime rocket commander, and claimed it it illegal for Israel to try and arrest suspects in violent acts while claiming that simply being a Jew in the West Bank makes one a militant despite what your own rights groups claim and that Gaza rockets are self defence.

And then you go on to pretend to support Palestinians while wanting them forced into a One State peace which they detest and pretend they don't have the capability f making decisions or being culpable for their choices.

Of course there is your continual support for targeting Jews around the world for condemnation and vandalism because you don't like other Jews being in the middle east and your constant use of anti-semitic tropes about Jewish control of politics and media.

You really are a good old fashioned white supremacist when your low opinion of the opinions and capabilities of Arabs are exposed.
 

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You do know that the internet has a memory right?



So why do you keep justifying it?




Wow. this is so dumb that I would call it retarded if that term was still acceptable.


All your posts are full of asinine racist double standards making excuses for violence from Palestinian terrorists and for attacks on any Jew you want to pretend is "militantly' driving their car. Again, you have tried claiming that it illegal for Israel to fire back at Palestinian gunmen, claimed that it is illegal that Israel killed PIJ's war crime rocket commander, and claimed it it illegal for Israel to try and arrest suspects in violent acts while claiming that simply being a Jew in the West Bank makes one a militant despite what your own rights groups claim and that Gaza rockets are self defence.

And then you go on to pretend to support Palestinians while wanting them forced into a One State peace which they detest and pretend they don't have the capability f making decisions or being culpable for their choices.

Of course there is your continual support for targeting Jews around the world for condemnation and vandalism because you don't like other Jews being in the middle east and your constant use of anti-semitic tropes about Jewish control of politics and media.

You really are a good old fashioned white supremacist when your low opinion of the opinions and capabilities of Arabs are exposed.
Yes, the internet has a memory.
So why can you never ever find a single quote to back up your straw man claims?

Because they are straw man arguments, where I never said what you claim.

Using quotes isn't hard, let me show you. Here's one where you state your version of the 'two state solution' includes Israel keeping all the land they can steal by force.
There should be a negotiated two state peace but there is no giving "back" land.

And here's another quote showing you saying that the kind of action Israel did during the Great March of Return would only be supported by 'racist scum'.
Only racist scum think self defence includes attacking civilians who were not engaged in acts of violence.
See?
Those are claims supported by quotes and include links to the original posts.
People who make straw men arguments can never back up their claims because they are bullshit.
 

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The antisemitic former leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, found himself photographed with a man reported to be a neo-Nazi over the weekend.

Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, a man said to have made several antisemitic remarks, captioned their photograph together: “Jeremy Corbyn, a good man speaking the truth.”

Mr Corbyn has since spoken out about the photo, tweeting: “I am approached for selfies on a daily basis from strangers. I had no idea who know who this individual was. Naturally, I condemn his abhorrent politics in the strongest possible terms.”

A spokesperson for Campaign Against Antisemitism said: “The world’s unluckiest anti-racist has once again found himself in the company of people who have low opinions of Jews. While Jeremy Corbyn is right to have distanced himself from Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, he might pause to consider why an alleged neo-Nazi would be so delighted to meet the former Labour leader.

‘Unluckiest anti-racist’ Jeremy Corbyn condemns alleged neo-Nazi after selfie together (antisemitism.org)
 

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The antisemitic former leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, found himself photographed with a man reported to be a neo-Nazi over the weekend.

Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, a man said to have made several antisemitic remarks, captioned their photograph together: “Jeremy Corbyn, a good man speaking the truth.”

Mr Corbyn has since spoken out about the photo, tweeting: “I am approached for selfies on a daily basis from strangers. I had no idea who know who this individual was. Naturally, I condemn his abhorrent politics in the strongest possible terms.”

A spokesperson for Campaign Against Antisemitism said: “The world’s unluckiest anti-racist has once again found himself in the company of people who have low opinions of Jews. While Jeremy Corbyn is right to have distanced himself from Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, he might pause to consider why an alleged neo-Nazi would be so delighted to meet the former Labour leader.

‘Unluckiest anti-racist’ Jeremy Corbyn condemns alleged neo-Nazi after selfie together (antisemitism.org)
Being tricked into a photo is the most offensive thing you saw today?

Time to stop supporting apartheid.
 
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Yes, the internet has a memory.
So why can you never ever find a single quote to back up your straw man claims?
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I love when you deny my claims then go on and confirm exactly what I said.

The PIJ rocket head is a valid military target. You claimed he wasn't
You claimed it's wrong for Israel to try and arrest violent suspects and claimed they have no right to shoot back.
You claimed that a 15 year old was somehow a military target sitting in the back seat of her mom's car when they were going to visit friends.
You've claimed Gaza rockets are self defence (despite your own rights groups saying they have no justification.
You tried to excuse a Palestinian who ran down and killed a tourist by claiming it didn't happen and instead said Israel killed him.
You insist that Jews have no right to be in the West Bank while claiming Palestinians refugees and descendants must be forced to move to Israel against their will.
You keep pretending to support self determination while completely ignoring the rights of Israelis (Jewish and non-Jewish) who want to remain Israelis and the rights of Palestinians who don't want a One State peace.

And you keep dehumanizing Palestinians by pretending they are incapable of making choices and claiming they can't be held responsible for their own actions.
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Yes, just over half of Palestinians support attacking Israeli civilians INSIDE ISRAEL and you refuse to even consider the impact this has on a path towards peace.
 

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I love when you deny my claims then go on and confirm exactly what I said.

The PIJ rocket head is a valid military target. You claimed he wasn't
You claimed it's wrong for Israel to try and arrest violent suspects and claimed they have no right to shoot back.
You claimed that a 15 year old was somehow a military target sitting in the back seat of her mom's car when they were going to visit friends.
You've claimed Gaza rockets are self defence (despite your own rights groups saying they have no justification.
You tried to excuse a Palestinian who ran down and killed a tourist by claiming it didn't happen and instead said Israel killed him.
You insist that Jews have no right to be in the West Bank while claiming Palestinians refugees and descendants must be forced to move to Israel against their will.
You keep pretending to support self determination while completely ignoring the rights of Israelis (Jewish and non-Jewish) who want to remain Israelis and the rights of Palestinians who don't want a One State peace.
Each of those statements are lies, I have not said those things.
I challenge you to prove that you're not bullshitting.

Prove it or I'll be calling bullshit on every post of yours.
 

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p.s. Since you refer to Amnesty...

Settlers, like any other civilians, cannot be targeted and only lose their protection from attack if and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities (Article 51 (3) Protocol 1).
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2002? You had to go back 21 years?

This is what Amnesty says now:

“State-backed settler violence is endemic in the occupied West Bank. Towns and villages like Huwara, which was the epicentre of Sunday’s attacks, are frequently targeted as they are surrounded by illegal settlements. For example, in October 2022, settlers broke into a school in Huwara where they smashed windows and beat teachers and pupils; less than two weeks later a café was set on fire and groups of settlers assaulted Palestinian residents with pipes and rocks. Amnesty International reiterates its call on Israeli authorities to remove all settlements, which are war crimes under international law, and to dismantle its system of apartheid against Palestinians. Apartheid is a crime against humanity and violence against civilians will continue for as long as it is in place.”

They also noted this:

The UN recorded 621 attacks against Palestinians by Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank in 2022.   

Now lets go back to the key qualifier in your 2002 quote:
and only lose their protection from attack if and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities (Article 51 (3) Protocol 1).

With over 600 state backed attacks where those settlers lost their civilian standing how are Palestinians to identify between civilian and militant/terrorist settlers?
They're all armed, they all act similarly and there is no uniform.

Let's also note that in 2002 Amnesty was calling out Palestinians while in 2023 Amnesty now calls out Israelis as they are the ones doing the attacking for the most part.
The same attacks you claim are terrorism in 2002 are now being carried out by the people you back, yet you still won't call them out and recognize that the settlers, settlements, occupation and apartheid are the problem, not Palestinians.

You said this:
Only racist scum think self defence includes attacking civilians who were not engaged in acts of violence.
And now defend this:
 
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2002? You had to go back 21 years?
Love how you argue against Amnesty and then quote something on a different topic. Do you think the Geneva Conventions have changed in the past 20 years

If your claims were true, you'd have plenty of Amnesty source that says all settlers are legitimate targets. There aren't any because Amnesty disagrees with your hateful claims that it's okay to target someone because other people of the same religion may be violent.

Settlers, like any other civilians, cannot be targeted and only lose their protection from attack if and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities (Article 51 (3) Protocol 1).

And yes, Amnesty is saying exactly what I have. A radical settler attacking a Palestinian is fair game during the attack and a Palestinian militant attacking Israelis is fair game during the attack. Your racist double standard not only tries to pretend being Jewish or having Israeli plates is enough justification but goes so far as to pretend that Palestinians shooting at Jews can't be held culpable for their actions.

Yet another case where a guy stopped at the side of the road on his phone gets shot up. But I'm sure you're pissed of that Israeli forces later engaged in a gunfight with the perps. After all, you think the Jew had no right to be on that road.
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p.s. Love your crocodile tears posting pics of dead Palestinians. You've made clear you think them too far beneath you to consider what they want or do.
 

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lose their protection from attack if and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities (Article 51 (3) Protocol 1).

And yes, Amnesty is saying exactly what I have. A radical settler attacking a Palestinian is fair game during the attack and a Palestinian militant attacking Israelis is fair game during the attack. Your racist double standard not only tries to pretend being Jewish or having Israeli plates is enough justification but goes so far as to pretend that Palestinians shooting at Jews can't be held culpable for their actions.

Yet another case where a guy stopped at the side of the road on his phone gets shot up. But I'm sure you're pissed of that Israeli forces later engaged in a gunfight with the perps. After all, you think the Jew had no right to be on that road.
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p.s. Love your crocodile tears posting pics of dead Palestinians. You've made clear you think them too far beneath you to consider what they want or do.
621 attacks in 2022 and on pace for more attacks in 2023. With the backing of the state.
Amnesty notes in your quote that settlers lose their civilian status when they take part in hostilities.
Palestinians who target settlers believing they are militants are not acting as terrorists.

Your article notes that this occurred after another raid by the death squads.

Shortly before the shooting attack, Palestinian media reported that Israeli forces had entered the Balata refugee camp, adjacent to the West Bank city of Nablus.

But mostly, now that you are quoting Amnesty you are supporting this as well.



You should work to end apartheid.
 
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621 attacks in 2022 and on pace for more attacks in 2023. With the backing of the state.
Amnesty notes in your quote that settlers lose their civilian status when they take part in hostilities.
Palestinians who target settlers believing they are militants are not acting as terrorists.

Your article notes that this occurred after another raid by the death squads.

Shortly before the shooting attack, Palestinian media reported that Israeli forces had entered the Balata refugee camp, adjacent to the West Bank city of Nablus.

But mostly, now that you are quoting Amnesty you are supporting this as well.



You should work to end apartheid.
 
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Amnesty notes in your quote that settlers lose their civilian status when they take part in hostilities.
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And yet you still claim that the vast majority of Jews in the West Bank not engaged in violence are still somehow valid targets while also claiming that Palestinian combatants should be free from repercussions. What a joke of a racist you are.

In your disgusting world, you claim a guy pulled over at the side of the road on his phone or a mom driving her two girls on a visit are taking a direct role in hostilities.

Settlers, like any other civilians, cannot be targeted and only lose their protection from attack if and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities (Article 51 (3) Protocol 1).

Meanwhile
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BEIJING — Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas wrapped up a trip to China on Friday after seeking economic aid and voicing support for Beijing’s repressive policies toward Muslim minorities in the northwestern region of Xinjiang.

During his four-day visit, Abbas met with the Chinese President and head of the ruling Communist Party Xi Jinping. The leaders then issued a joint statement endorsing Beijing’s domestic and foreign policies and repudiating Western concepts of human rights.

In the statement, the Palestinian Authority said issues regarding China’s policy toward Muslims in Xinjiang have “nothing to do with human rights and are aimed at excising extremism and opposing terrorism and separatism.”




“Palestine resolutely opposes using the Xinjiang problem as a way of interfering in China’s internal affairs,” the joint statement said.

That echoes Chinese propaganda surrounding the detention of more than 1 million Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other Muslim minorities in prison-like detention centers on little or no legal grounds — often merely for having a relative studying abroad or downloading the Koran onto their phones.




“Palestine resolutely opposes using the Xinjiang problem as a way of interfering in China’s internal affairs,” the joint statement said.

That echoes Chinese propaganda surrounding the detention of more than 1 million Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other Muslim minorities in prison-like detention centers on little or no legal grounds — often merely for having a relative studying abroad or downloading the Koran onto their phones.


Ending China trip, PA's Abbas backs Beijing crackdown on Muslim minorities | The Times of Israel
 

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BEIJING — Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas wrapped up a trip to China on Friday after seeking economic aid and voicing support for Beijing’s repressive policies toward Muslim minorities in the northwestern region of Xinjiang.

During his four-day visit, Abbas met with the Chinese President and head of the ruling Communist Party Xi Jinping. The leaders then issued a joint statement endorsing Beijing’s domestic and foreign policies and repudiating Western concepts of human rights.

In the statement, the Palestinian Authority said issues regarding China’s policy toward Muslims in Xinjiang have “nothing to do with human rights and are aimed at excising extremism and opposing terrorism and separatism.”




“Palestine resolutely opposes using the Xinjiang problem as a way of interfering in China’s internal affairs,” the joint statement said.

That echoes Chinese propaganda surrounding the detention of more than 1 million Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other Muslim minorities in prison-like detention centers on little or no legal grounds — often merely for having a relative studying abroad or downloading the Koran onto their phones.




“Palestine resolutely opposes using the Xinjiang problem as a way of interfering in China’s internal affairs,” the joint statement said.

That echoes Chinese propaganda surrounding the detention of more than 1 million Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other Muslim minorities in prison-like detention centers on little or no legal grounds — often merely for having a relative studying abroad or downloading the Koran onto their phones.


Ending China trip, PA's Abbas backs Beijing crackdown on Muslim minorities | The Times of Israel
Abbas is just as corrupt as Netanyahu, but not as smart.
Palestinians have wanted him out of power for years and years now which is why he refuses to hold elections for the PA.

Which means its up to BDS and international action.
 

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Do you know any other country that pimps out their female soldiers? But when you practice apartheid and ethnic cleansing, you’ve got no standards.

Clueless
 
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