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Russia spends $65 billion on its military. The US spends $2 trillion. The US has some of the best universities in the world feeding the biggest defense contractors in the world, and is allied to every other nation renowned for their universities as well as 2 other countries that outsoend Russia on defense.

Why do you think the US doesn't have hypersonic missiles? The B-52 is ancient, slow, and has no stealth capabilities, yet it will be in service beyond any other aircraft currently in the US fleet. Why? Because it can air launch hypersonic missiles beyond the range of Russian radar and air defenses. If the US didn't have hypersonic missiles, the B-52 would already be out of service.
Yes , united states do have some the best universities , who goes there?Asian and Chinese students from China educated there and then go back to China. Russian students go there too.



So guess still holds the upper hands in hypersonic nukes? While USA unviersity focus on woke math curriculum and woke math or woke ideology and critical race theories . Meanwhile Russia universities and China is focused on STEM .



Breaking Defense reported earlier that the Lockheed Martin-made ARRW might be in jeopardy, citing Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall, who told the House Appropriations defense subcommittee during testimony on the service's fiscal 2024 budget request this week that the March 13 test was "not a success."


"The one we just had was not a success. We did not get the data that we needed from that test ... currently examining that, trying to understand what happened," Kendall told lawmakers.
He was referring to the news last Friday of an ARRW test by the Air Force that only achieved "several" objectives but omitted any claims of success
Sources close to Bloomberg said the missile, released from a B-52H bomber off the southern coast of California, experienced data link transmitting issues during flight.

Assistant Secretary Hunter's testimony didn't clarify whether the Air Force is giving up on the Lockheed program because of the failure, or if it was already on the chopping block, but clearly the program has been troubled.





Kendall had suggested that possible further tests might determine the fate of the ARRW program. He noted the Air Force's other hypersonic program, the Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile (HACM), showed more promising results:

"We see a definite role for the HACM concept. It's compatible with more of our aircraft. And it'll give us more combat capability overall. So, we're more committed to HACM at this point in time than we are to ARRW."
It is indeed embarrassing that the US (the largest military budget in the world) has yet to field any hypersonic missiles, while Russia has already used its hypersonic Kinzhal missiles multiple times in the conflict in Ukraine.

Since 2019, the Department of Defense has plowed billions of dollars into programs aimed at developing hypersonic missiles, as defense officials warned Russia and China are advancing in this field. However, the recent Air Force hypersonic missile test ended in failure, raising concerns about whether the US is US falling behind the hypersonic arms race.

PS. Keep believing the liberal koolaids even when the facts come out and your lying eyes will deceive you liberal mind set!
PPS. Who winning the proxy war or who actually losing? Definitely Ukrainian army! Over 500,000 Ukrainian army killed and wounded I firmly believed !
 
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Russia spends $65 billion on its military. The US spends $2 trillion.
Ever heard the sayings work smarter not harder!
Who have better value for their money!

Russian spend $65 billion dolLars !
But they have hypersonic nuclear missile and this new weapon see video. The NATO have no defence against it!



PS. Maybe $2 trillion should have better spend else where like hypersonic nuclear missile? Or maybe not operate thousands of base around the world or maybe not start endless war like Ukraine proxy war against Russia!
 
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Long posted by you.
I keep very short !
You are full of it.
You quoted me, but it says Schlong and links to the wrong post. What kind of gaslighting are you trying to pull?

And I don't know how I can be full of it. All I did was cite defence spending and the wars Russia was in. Are you saying Russia spends more on defense than the US and that they weren't in those wars? By all means, tell me what was full of shit.

Again Start justifying your crap by started using the bully nuclear narratives that the same bullshit argument used by Bush to justify fake WMD !
I think you're confused. Ukraine didn't invade anyone. It's Putin that invaded with a made up excuse about widespread Nazis only in Ukraine but not in Russia. That's who's trying to justify something. But you already admitted you don't actually believe any of that anyway and you're just so scared of nuclear war you'll risk the entire future of humanity.

We have to stand up against bully otherwise they will become like Hitlier or they become bully or you have to stand up against bully arguments bullshits !
Typically war mongers arguments! We need “ To stop encourage the proliferation of nuclear weapons and aggressive actions by other nations with nuclear weapon“.

Fuck that! Don’t give a fuck about that bullshit arguments anymore!!
You're the one who keeps bringing up Nazis. If you can talk about Nazis, it's fair game to talk about Hitler.

Again logic says Russian have the upper hand they have hypersonic nuke.
But you haven't explained how that's an "upper hand" when the US has them too. And more/better delivery systems for them.

It matter of time the will mass produce and out produce thousands of hypersonic nukes and the west cannot match that .
They ( American and EU) are too busy promoting trans and woke culture into their universities , woke math into curriculum and infighting among each other and destroying their country and economy with their dumb woke climate change ideology and that why America are living in the past!
Ah. So this is it. You think America is weak because they let homosexuals in the military. You think they spend $1.1 trillion dollars on rainbow flags and sex change operations while Russia spends all $65 billion on weapons.

I've got bad news for you: the two toughest people I served with were both gay. Woke or not, I'll put them against anything Russia can throw at us.


That why I believe Russia and unfortunately China will get ahead become not involved in the woke ideology nonsense

Bottomline Russian do have nuclear sub too park outside couple hundred miles of both coast of USA.
They do have a nuclear triad system too.
But a better nuclear hypersonic missile then USA.
4 hypersonic nuclear missile will end USA. There no defence to it. Patriot missile couldnt even shoot down IRAQ scud missile or patriot could not even shoot down a drone that hit Saudi Arabia oil infrastructure .

PS. Only time will tell who will be right or wrong. I am 100% firmly believe this proxy war will end by latest sometime around end of fall when Ukrainian army ran out of artillery shell and amino! The. I believe USA will get tired of funding this proxy war and move on to next target which is China and start arming Tawain and start a proxy war in Asia,
Ok. I mean, advanced weapon systems are OpSec. We've seen one CGI video from Russia claiming to be hypersonic nukes. And it's not "superior". The Bulava is about the same as the Trident II, and there's no real info on he Trident III. The Bulava performs better if there is ABM defenses, but Russia only has ABM defenses around 1 city, and there are British and French SLBMs that outperform Russia's at ABM penetration.

But hey, I'm trained in this stuff and you've already admitted you're just a coward who only watches YouTube videos and things everything that's Russian-based is factual but everything Western-based is a lie because you're terrified of nuclear war and you're so anti-woke you'd rather a genocidal maniac rules the world. So I guess enjoy that utopia you think Putin brings.
 

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Ever heard the sayings work smarter not harder!
Who have better value for their money!

Russian spend $65 billion dolLars !
But they have hypersonic nuclear missile and this new weapon see video. The NATO have no defence against it!
Like he has never heard of the staggering levels of Russian corruption that are much more wide spread and deep than anything the 'mericans could dream of.

If anyone is getting better value for money it's the Americans. To suggest otherwise is to also suggest that you are completely divorced from reality.

Also Hypersonic missiles have been around for several decades, they are just better known as intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). Technically, all ballistic missiles with a range longer than a few hundred kilometers are hypersonic since they can fly faster than Mach 5. Fuck, even the V2 reached in it 1944.
ICBMs go much faster than those missiles shot down by the patriots.

Also
The American Ground-Based Midcourse Defense (GMD) system, formerly known as National Missile Defense (NMD), was first tested in 1997 and had its first successful intercept test in 1999. Instead of using an explosive charge, it launches a hit-to-kill kinetic projectile to intercept an ICBM. The current GMD system is intended to shield the United States mainland against a limited nuclear attack by a rogue state such as North Korea. GMD does not have the ability to protect against an all-out nuclear attack from Russia, as there are 44 ground-based interceptors deployed in 2019 against any crossing projectiles headed toward the homeland.[6][7] (This interceptor count does not include the THAAD, or Aegis, or Patriot defenses against directly incoming projectiles.)

We do have defenses against it, so do the Russians the A-135. Even fucking India has anti ballistic missiles. Although if recent experience is worth anything, ours probably will work much better than the Russians.

But please, go ahead and keep droning on about something the Americans had had for decades and tell more lies about how the US is defenseless vs this brand new decades old technology.

To recap, he actually claims the Russians get more bang for their buck than the Americans
Then he goes on about how they have something we don't have, which we do.
Then he goes on about how there is no defense when there is.


Oh and those subs you mention, the loud as fuck ones that the Americans know the location of and if I would guess are being shadowed whenever they put out to sea by the Americans... yeah, they better launch quick because otherwise they wouldn't last.

Also prey tell us about that wonderful Russian aircraft carrier fleet that the Russians got for their money.
The ONE AC Carrier, the one that has been under repairs since 2018, The repair process has been hampered by accidents, embezzlement of funds, and other setbacks.
That 1 sub.
I am not saying the US gets 100% value from their spending but they do a fuck ton better than the Russians... and the Germans sadly. To suggest otherwise is again to live in a world of fantasy or lies.
Also compare it's aircraft to any of the 11 or so main carriers the US have.
 
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You quoted me, but it says Schlong and links to the wrong post. What kind of gaslighting are you trying to pull?

And I don't know how I can be full of it. All I did was cite defence spending and the wars Russia was in. Are you saying Russia spends more on defense than the US and that they weren't in those wars? By all means, tell me what was full of shit.
It simple spend smarter get more value for your money rather then spend more. That why Russia have hypersonic missile and hypersonic nuke missile!
Google yourself
How much does a Russian hypersonic missile cost?

They can cost upwards …probably cost $5 million each!
They are designed to be able to hit Nato warships and to destroy Nato missile defence systems.

So all 12 USA aircraft carriers cost about $1 billion each can be destroyed the aircraft carrier in 30 mins! Nothing can defends against it. hypersonic missile at that speed even nonnuclear warhead’s can desTory a deep harden bunker in Ukraine fill with Top Ukrainian generals and NATO advisers. You can google that yourself.

Also Russia have the most advanced air defence system in the world the ss500




I think you're confused. Ukraine didn't invade anyone. It's Putin that invaded with a made up excuse about widespread Nazis only in Ukraine but not in Russia. That's who's trying to justify something. But you already admitted you don't actually believe any of that anyway and you're just so scared of nuclear war you'll risk the entire future of humanity.
Will establish somewhere in this post / thread usa governments overthrew a Russia back government in favour of USA government. The concept of “orange revolution “ meaning anything to you or Victoria Nulund means anything to you? Just google it or sue a you tube search on them. Not confuse! Also established facts owns UN and own mainstream media already admitted and
Ukraine leadersship have famous street names after their Ukrainian Nazis heores or pictured of famous Ukrainian Nazis status place in their street . Or Holidays name after them . It already proven I can waste my time look for them and repoa to make you look like a fool.


But you haven't explained how that's an "upper hand" when the US has them too. And more/better delivery systems for them.
Simple I press a button the hypersonic nuke would be in USA target in matters of 30 mins . No defense against it!
Mass production of them at 5 million dollars a missiles is money we’ll spend!



Ah. So this is it. You think America is weak because they let homosexuals in the military. You think they spend $1.1 trillion dollars on rainbow flags and sex change operations while Russia spends all $65 billion on weapons.
Encourage woke ideology and woke math not focused on STEM like China or like Russia results in less smarter person. Smarter people create more value and new products and get ahead in life. It builds a better economy and a better R & D from intelligent person will results and better products and more breakthrough! Dont you think?
Less infighting among each make a better country! The infighting between the woke ideology( democratic ) about 1/2 USA population against the other 1/2 USA population ( Trump voter) is deeply disturbing and tearing up the fabric of American society.

I've got bad news for you: the two toughest people I served with were both gay. Woke or not, I'll put them against anything Russia can throw at us.
It not how tough you are is how smart you are? It not how hard you work but Work smart not work harder concept
That why Russia and China have hypersonic nuke and American don’t have hypersonic nukes!
Russia have the most advanced air defence in the world SS400 nothing in NATO can match that!

But hey, I'm trained in this stuff and you've already admitted you're just a coward who only watches YouTube videos and things everything that's Russian-based is factual but everything Western-based is a lie because you're terrified of nuclear war and you're so anti-woke you'd rather a genocidal maniac rules the world. So I guess enjoy that utopia you think Putin brings.
See lies by USA goverment …just google Fake IRAQ WMD by NATO and by BUSH governments! Nothing wrong being antiwoke when the leftist push genders surgery or gender ideology to a child in elementary schools. Let childs be a child’s until they is over 18 or over 21 and then let them make an adult decision for themselves!

The majority of population of the world prefer nonnuclear holcaust ! Genocidal manic rulers ( “ insert NATO, UK, USA, BUSH, NEOCONS, NEO!LIBS, MSM, here”) kill how many millions of IRAQ child’s with the fake IRAQ WMD ?

There are no seconds chance when come with nuclear conflict but with conventional war there always a second chance for the rest of the world, .. Everyone who value life should be terrified of nuclear war!! MADD or nuclear winter should terrify any sane person!


There is no reset or redo button when nuke start flying if any of the war hawks generals in either side ( Russia generals or American Generals genuinely believe that if they are under attack by nukes or they believed that the must stand up against an aggressor and they must keep upping the miltary responds! Only if someone ( Russia nucLear policy ) believes the existential threat to state they will used nuclear weapons it is firmly spell out! Can’t get clearly then that! So if Putin get assassinate by Ukrainian assassin don’t be surprised NATO get blame and the war hawk in Russia will use hypersonic nukes and the new giant sub( Belgorod fear by NATO) …. To completely desTory usa in defence of mother Russia. You willingly to bet on everyone life in this planet?
You or anyone with nuke have no right to gamble my life ! All it take one nuke to start a chain reactions… even a nonclear like a biolo weopens are assassinate a leader like what happen in World War One !
 
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Ever heard the sayings work smarter not harder!
Who have better value for their money!

Russian spend $65 billion dolLars !
But they have hypersonic nuclear missile and this new weapon see video. The NATO have no defence against it!



PS. Maybe $2 trillion should have better spend else where like hypersonic nuclear missile? Or maybe not operate thousands of base around the world or maybe not start endless war like Ukraine proxy war against Russia!

Ever heard of checking your work before submitting/posting it publicly?

You cut and pasted DinkleMouse's message into a response you made to me. Twice.

Now tell me again about your own "STEM" education, getting a degree in Engineering, passing the exams and passing them, and how you are a P. Eng!

You are certainly not an engineer because you lack the inate, natural, instinct to be precise, accurate, well informed and produce well designed work.

And as for the S in STEM, you are absolutely not any sort of a man of Science. You are a self-admittedly ignorant man who goes on his feelings and never changes his mind.

Finally, you are therefore a fundamentally dishonest person whose judgements are generally worthless. This is why nobody does anything except mock your posts.
 
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Ever heard of checking your work before submitting/posting it publicly?

You cut and pasted DinkleMouse's message into a response you made to me. Twice.

Now tell me again about your own "STEM" education, getting a degree in Engineering, passing the exams and passing them, and how you are a P. Eng!

You are certainly not an engineer because you lack the inate, natural, instinct to be precise, accurate, well informed and produce well designed work.

And as for the S in STEM, you are absolutely not any sort of a man of Science. You are a self-admittedly ignorant man who goes on his feelings and never changes his mind.

Finally, you are therefore a fundamentally dishonest person whose judgements are generally worthless. This is why nobody does anything except mock your posts.
Easy to make mistakes while on a using a small screen on my small miniiPad. Enough said!
 

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Long posted by you.
I keep very short !
You are full of it.

Again Start justifying your crap by started using the bully nuclear narratives that the same bullshit argument used by Bush to justify fake WMD !
We have to stand up against bully otherwise they will become like Hitlier or they become bully or you have to stand up against bully arguments bullshits !
Typically war mongers arguments! We need “ To stop encourage the proliferation of nuclear weapons and aggressive actions by other nations with nuclear weapon“.

Fuck that! Don’t give a fuck about that bullshit arguments anymore!!

Again logic says Russian have the upper hand they have hypersonic nuke. It matter of time the will mass produce and out produce thousands of hypersonic nukes and the west cannot match that .
They ( American and EU) are too busy promoting trans and woke culture into their universities , woke math into curriculum and infighting among each other and destroying their country and economy with their dumb woke climate change ideology and that why America are living in the past!


That why I believe Russia and unfortunately China will get ahead become not involved in the woke ideology nonsense

Bottomline Russian do have nuclear sub too park outside couple hundred miles of both coast of USA.
They do have a nuclear triad system too.
But a better nuclear hypersonic missile then USA.
4 hypersonic nuclear missile will end USA. There no defence to it. Patriot missile couldnt even shoot down IRAQ scud missile or patriot could not even shoot down a drone that hit Saudi Arabia oil infrastructure .

PS. Only time will tell who will be right or wrong. I am 100% firmly believe this proxy war will end by latest sometime around end of fall when Ukrainian army ran out of artillery shell and amino! The. I believe USA will get tired of funding this proxy war and move on to next target which is China and start arming Tawain and start a proxy war in Asia,

This was the first post you mistakenly or deliberately pasted my name into a post by DinkleMouse.

But just to be clear, you agree that "We have to stand up against bully otherwise they will become like Hitlier or they become bully or you have to stand up against bully arguments bullshits !" ?

As for your Kremlin Klaim that Russia's hypersonic missile can't be shot down. Not even by US Patriot systems?

Well a bunch of rookie Ukrainian mobiks have been shooting down Kinzal (hypersonic!) missiles all month. And the US has known that they could do so for years, they just didn't have field experience to verify it. Now they do.

So Russia's own Special Self-Emasculation Operation has been going exactly to plan!
 

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Easy to make mistakes while on a using a small screen on my small miniiPad. Enough said!
It's not a mistake that can be made naturally.

And even if it was, you are admitting that you are sloppy and careless. Makes for the worst kind of "Engineer".

But I also don't believe you are working on an iPad Mini. No way you can arrange and format the volume of copy and pasted shit you spam TERB with. I would go so far as to say you get fed that, all pre-formatted, and just post it as if you discovered it all.

Sloppy, ignorant and dishonest. What's not to like?
 
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Also prey tell us about that wonderful Russian aircraft carrier fleet that the Russians got for their money.

The ONE AC Carrier, the one that has been under repairs since 2018, The repair process has been hampered by accidents, embezzlement of funds, and other setbacks.
Speaking of Russian Aircraft Carriers Carrier.

Russian MOD released a video of a MIG pulling a Cobra maneouver as the flare for landing on their aircraft carrier, then nailing an essentially VTOL landing on the carrier deck.

Looks super impressive.

Except it is a video game!

The word "cringeworthy" seems appropriate!

"The Russcists are infected with a bacteria... causing them to glorify the orthodox Russian weaponry that has no analogues, and provides their owners with supernatural abilities, thus recently the biggest Russcist communities massively shared this video showing a Russian aircraft showing a completely unimaginable landing on the Russian carrier. This caused absolutely enormous celebration among the Russcist users who stated "Thez ez the real might of za Ruzzian people, no f-16 can do zat. THe pilot has the legendary spirit of his granddad who killed HItler"

 

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All politicians lie! And all Politicians lined their pockets with dirty money or they steal money or get money from bribes or somehow get money funded to them illegally by third party,. Probably also …I don’t keep track. Because I am born and live in Canada. It is easier to remember the foolishness of endless American wars . I rank a used car salesman trust worthness slightly higher then a politician or a comedian!
Only politicians who lie and steal tell you that.

Here in Canada corrupt politicians who lie and steal are rare, we've got the Ford family here in Ontario, but otherwise I believe that most cons here aren't crooks.
 
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So guess still holds the upper hands in hypersonic nukes? While USA unviersity focus on woke math curriculum and woke math or woke ideology and critical race theories . Meanwhile Russia universities and China is focused on STEM .
Russian hypersonics?
Ukraine shot down 6 using the Patriot system.
So what did Putin do?

 
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Only politicians who lie and steal tell you that.

Here in Canada corrupt politicians who lie and steal are rare, we've got the Ford family here in Ontario, but otherwise I believe that most cons here aren't crooks.
But he lives in Quebec. Where there is indeed much more corruption than in the rest of Canada.
 

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Russian hypersonics?
Ukraine shot down 6 using the Patriot system.
So what did Putin do?

No proof on Russian hypersonic missile shot down!! It just claimed by Ukrainian President Zelensky! Like I said before patriot systems missile could even shoot down a Iraq scud missile.lol. Nothing but more fake propaganda by Zelensky ( “ Baghdad Bob “) ring a bell ? Anyone?
 

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Or maybe you are correct or maybe this is the aftermath of the remnants of the missile when it hit the target and left over fragments.
Just possibly of more spin! Like Baghdad Bob ! Very difficult to tell who telling truth for now. Eventually time will tell who telling the truth. Truth have a habit of coming out or seeping out! Or possibly a defective missile built with fake knockoffs parts from China!

Now don’t see any USA military analysis or Miltary Defense contractors who built the Patriot bragging about the system Patriot shooting down a hypersonic missile! I pretty sure a spokesperson fromPentagon should & would had brag about shooting down a hypersonic missile! So anything come out from Ukrainian defence ministry ( known to me as Baghdad Dad Bob)…LOL.
 
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Ukraine and the Kinzhal: Don’t believe the hypersonic hype

1) RUSSIAN HYPERSONICS ARE ALREADY HERE
The first part of the hype is Putin’s claim that Russian hypersonics are already here and being used on the battlefield in Ukraine. Hypersonic weapons are a broad category of missiles whose only common characteristic is that they can reach a speed of Mach 5, which the German V-2 achieved in 1944. The term “hypersonic” is now typically used just to refer to two types of weapons that are being developed through contemporary defense programs: hypersonic glide vehicles (HGVs) and hypersonic cruise missiles (HCMs). The Kinzhal is neither, as it is an air-launched ballistic missile. Moreover, Ukraine’s ability to intercept Russia’s entire volley of six Kinzhals indicates that the missile’s alleged status as a hypersonic system is at best questionable.

2) HYPERSONICS CANNOT BE INTERCEPTED
HGVs and HCMs are, indeed, more difficult to intercept than ballistic missiles using current missile defenses, although hypersonics may be even more difficult to produce in the first place: The U.S. Air Force’s HGV Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon was canceled after multiple failures during testing. The technical challenges of developing HCMs are even greater, posing serious questions about when or if the allegedly deployed Russian HCMs were tested sufficiently or will be useful. Moreover, interception of even these bleeding-edge weapons isn’t impossible. Existing missile defenses can already intercept missiles traveling far faster than HGVs or HCMs, and could be adapted to intercept hypersonic missiles as well. A satellite constellation to track HGVs is planned to be in orbit by 2025. Moreover, as of 2022, the U.S. Aegis sea-based terminal defense system already had a nascent capability to counter hypersonics.

3) THE UNITED STATES IS BEHIND ON HYPERSONICS DEVELOPMENT
The United States appears to be well ahead of Russia and China in its ability to defend against hypersonics. However, if one measures success by allegedly deployed offensive hypersonic systems, the United States is indeed behind. But that would be like measuring the success of the Chinese military’s adoption of artificial intelligence by announcements made at the National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party.

We do know a great deal about how well-tested China’s and Russia’s HGV systems are since they are launched from easily-detected ballistic missiles; the open-source community alone has reported on numerous Chinese and Russian HGV tests. While some Chinese HGV systems have been tested frequently, the Russian ones have not, and reactions to both have been hyped. For example, some technological developments that have been presented as novel are simply not: Although China made international news in July 2021 by testing an HGV that was also a fractional orbital bombardment system (FOBS), an “exotic” hypersonic weapon allegedly capable of flying around the world and carrying a nuclear warhead; FOBS is an old technology that was first developed and deployed by the Soviet Union in the 1960s. Similarly, while the Russians have tested their Avangard HGV four times (with one failure), it is unclear whether this is (or should be) sufficient to qualify as fielding the system. Russia’s Zircon HCM allegedly has a suspiciously perfect test track record, but also suffers from inherent limitations of existing HCM technologies. Rather than being genuinely “behind,” the United States’ more cautious approach to its own programs and statements about them likely reflects its reticence to field insufficiently tested systems.

4) HYPERSONICS THREATEN STRATEGIC STABILITY
There is also a question as to whether being “behind” in the development of novel hypersonic capabilities actually matters — whether an asymmetry disrupts a fragile stability. China and Russia already possess sufficient intercontinental ballistic missile capabilities to swamp U.S. missile defenses, and so the marginal added value of an additional system that can overcome the same defenses is questionable. Moreover, a recent Congressional Budget Office report found limited roles in which hypersonics would clearly be superior to other extant weapons systems, noted that they are more expensive than other options, and questioned whether hypersonics were more survivable. Determining whether hypersonics will cause a net increase or decrease in incentives to strike first is highly contingent; current plans and deployments do not appear to do so. It is possible that future developments will change this equation but predicting the future of strategic stability is speculative rather than a basis for engaging in another arms race.

5) ARMS CONTROL FOR HYPERSONICS IS USELESS
A three-way hypersonics arms race appears to be gathering steam between China, Russia, and the United States. China’s heavy investment in hypersonics appears to be in reaction to the United States’ development of hypersonics, indicating a security dilemma dynamic that is ripe for arms control measures. Given the unclear long-term implications for strategic stability, the technical difficulties with engineering and deploying such systems, the apparent security dilemma dynamics, and the expense of doing so, arms control has a clear role to play here.

Rather than being trapped by narrower notions of arms control, we should think about creative solutions. Simple, easily verifiable measures such as a moratorium on testing hypersonic glide vehicles would help to cool off this race to nowhere; since China believes it is ahead in offensive hypersonics development, this may be a rare issue on which they would prefer to lock in that lead. While Russia is busy tearing up arms control treaties and, therefore, unlikely to participate, it is also subject to severe sanctions and engulfed in a conflict that makes it difficult for Russia to mount a hypersonics program capable of besting the United States’ right now. Confidence-building measures that address deployments which threaten strategic stability, such as clear separation of nuclear and non-nuclear forces, would also be attractive to all parties, since they require no reductions but could nonetheless prove stabilizing. Quantitative limitations, possibly in the form of asymmetric arms control for hypersonics in which parties accept different reductions or ceilings for forces or exchange one weapon for a different kind of weapon, which have a history of success where symmetrical reductions failed, might also be more tolerable and could prevent costs from rapidly spiraling out of control. But none of these measures can have a chance while we remain under the sway of the hypersonic hype.

Thus, reporting of Ukraine’s shootdown of Russian hypersonics tells only a partial truth. Russian hypersonic missiles do not yet pose the dire threat to Western interests that has been so breathlessly reported in the media. This makes it an opportune time to invest in defenses and allocate resources to arms control — before the real Russian hypersonic threat emerges.
 
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