Sugar Dating Experience

[brian4hartley]

I'm just about ready to throw in the towel. It's a big waste of time. A number of folks on the forum have said it's a waste of time, but I wanted to see for myself.

Of the sites I've used:

• Secret Benefits: 99.99% is fake profiles. I only ever get messages from locked conversations. As soon as it's unlocked. Poof! They stop chatting.
• Whats Your Price: Almost the same thing. In fact, it was only when I bought the mini credit package that the offers started coming in. Go figure.
• Seeking: Hard to really review this one at the moment. It's a mixed bag. So much texting required. I'm losing track of who I told what. And then there's the dates. And public exposure. The younger girls are more care-free, but that's where the scammers seem to be. The older girls have baggage. Why not choose neither? lol

What I've been doing is whenever someone ghosts me, or a M&G doesn't work out, I just contact TDL, HPL, GG, etc. and setup a session on the spot with a girl and voila - I have a great time. I spend less than I was going to spend on the SA/SB girl anyway and most of the girls at these agencies are really nice people. Last week some girl had "cell phone issues" because for some reason at the age of 24 she believes she has bad luck with phones... so she vanished... I went to see Celia at TDL instead. Good move. Kind woman. Great interaction. Damage? 300. And they're at a hotel that is 100% hassle free getting in.

What I haven't yet tried, and will be this week, is doing meetups with single moms... not sure what I'm hoping to find though. Maybe I'll just give up entirely and go see Orange.

 

[MadisonWinter]

I find with sugar that I usually only see once and have quite a bit of texting that leads up to the first encounter to get to know one another.

The process, although it takes time, is quite addictive. I met a 19 year old about a month ago who works as a server. Super hot, about 5'1". Absolutely amazing DFK in the back of my car and she was so fucking horny it wasn't funny.... she climbed on top, my pants and underwear were down, I'm being smothered with full teen lips and tongue, she moved her panties to one side and started rubbing her soaking wet P over my C and had this cute high pitched little moan/squeak.
It was just like when we were all horny teens back in the day. And then she said "I want you to put it in me".... seriously it was as exciting as being 19 yourself again I was absolutely in awe she was so into it.

That's why it's hard to not keep seeing some of them I guess.

“Teen lips” ew. Jail.

 

[John Wick]

“Teen lips” ew. Jail.

Bad skin, huge schnozz, teeth like a mule! ew. Hard pass.

 

[MadisonWinter]

Being attracted to eighteen and nineteen year olds means you belong in jail?

Quoting something as teen lips is predatory and sounds creepy as hell. But yes also there is something wrong with grown men who want borderline minors. You realize their frontal lobe isn’t even developed yet right?

 

[John Wick]

Quoting something as teen lips is predatory and sounds creepy as hell. But yes also there is something wrong with grown men who want borderline minors. You realize their frontal lobe isn’t even developed yet right?

So tell us, what age must a woman be to be acceptably sexually attractive to men such that those men are not considered 'creepy'? I'm assuming you consider it ok for an 18/19 yo man to be attracted to 18/19 yo women...so it must be some sort of complex age differential algorithm you're referring to. Btw...you do see men in their 50's and 60's right...is that creepy too given that in many cases those men are 20-30 years older than you?..and you've been doing that for quite a number of years if I'm not mistaken. Please enlighten us.

 

[xix]

I'm just about ready to throw in the towel. It's a big waste of time. A number of folks on the forum have said it's a waste of time, but I wanted to see for myself.

What I haven't yet tried, and will be this week, is doing meetups with single moms... not sure what I'm hoping to find though. Maybe I'll just give up entirely and go see Orange.

Thank you for the report and taking one for the team.
Single moms... or Divorce moms there is a difference. A SM might want to move in quickly if she has no money. A divorce mom if she has no resources , same as SM, but if she has money then it is FWB.

 

[xix]

Quoting something as teen lips is predatory and sounds creepy as hell. But yes also there is something wrong with grown men who want borderline minors. You realize their frontal lobe isn’t even developed yet right?

What makes you think their frontal lobe will ever develop when most people are attached to their cell like an addiction?

Some times there are 18/19 woman that want older men. I call it karma love or are tired of guys their ages not having any money or immature or no future. Some times I think both genders are immature and lost at that age in this time.

 

[Hipjdog]

After many, many false starts on Seeking, I just had an incredible experience and thought I'd share. Good arrangements can (eventually) be found.

I finally found a busty Asian girl I really like. She wrote back (in complete sentences and proper grammar) and things moved pretty seamlessly
to texting. I asked for a picture just to prove it was her and, no problem, she sent it right along. I asked for a pic of her body and she did me one better,
sending a cute little video of herself. The video was totally G Rated but I got to see what she was working with and I was very excited.

I asked what PPM she was looking for and she said 200. This was a lot, lot less than what I thought she would quote me so I jumped at the chance.

We met at a bar and everything went just great. We had a nice, normal conversation and she made me the center of attention, asking me lots of questions.
I'm not used to that so it felt really good. I paid for our drinks and we went to my place.

I expected we would chit chat for a while at my place, maybe watch a movie, but within 2 minutes of being in my apartment she was on her knees. What
followed was PSE insanity -- this girl is no stranger to the bedroom, and she seemed very much into it. Fantastic 20 year old body and she went to work.
Incredible DT, maybe the best I've ever had. You would never guess walking down the street the skills this girl has. After a great romp, she took a little nap
on my shoulder before I offered her a shower. "Join me" she said. Some very passionate shower sex was had before I gave her the PPM and she was on her
way.

This was the kind of situation that is much better than an escort experience. No time limit, just 2 people enjoying each other at a reasonable rate. Couldn't ask
for better. Sort of felt like a combination of SP and regular girlfriend.

Anyway, all this is to say that if you stick with it and are patient you can find your match. I think I just did.

 

[MindJohn]

Quoting something as teen lips is predatory and sounds creepy as hell. But yes also there is something wrong with grown men who want borderline minors. You realize their frontal lobe isn’t even developed yet right?

Uh, I don't think that's what most men need "developed" as a prerequisite for anything with a legal adult.


It's like voting... we give somebody the right to vote at a certain age... no matter what is "developed" or not.

And then we do them the favor of not filtering/policing for whom they are allowed to vote.


LOL - just imagine: "you can't vote for the honorable 'Teen Lips' over there"


But you can vote for "Old Schmuck", so why don't you vote for Old Schmuck?

 

[brian4hartley]

We met at a bar and everything went just great.... I paid for our drinks and we went to my place.

I think this is the key takeaway right here. Don't text too much, go straight to the bar. Go back to your place. Those two simple rules weed out a lot of issues.

I actually had a great experience last night. 350 ppm with a girl I did a M&G with the previous week.

If you're a decent looking guy, kind, act respectful, then there is no reason why they wouldn't proceed to the next stage. I guess the goal is to get to that stage as soon as possible.

 

[Hipjdog]

I think this is the key takeaway right here. Don't text too much, go straight to the bar. Go back to your place. Those two simple rules weed out a lot of issues.

I actually had a great experience last night. 350 ppm with a girl I did a M&G with the previous week.

If you're a decent looking guy, kind, act respectful, then there is no reason why they wouldn't proceed to the next stage. I guess the goal is to get to that stage as soon as possible.

Exactly. Develop a little bit of rapport and then move things along to meeting in person as soon as possible. Once you're there in person just behave like it's a normal
date, treat her with respect and ask her questions. She should be happy to come home with you after that. (Tip: pick a bar close to your place).

You're going to have to sift through a lot of flakes in order to find the girl who will actually sit down in front of you. Don't get too attached or hopeful with a girl on SA
until she's actually standing in front of you in person. You're going to have a lot of strikeouts before the home run.

 

[Hipjdog]

Also, you should be able to get a sense from their profile if they're going to be a time waster or not.
If she mentions platonic, move on. If she only wants online, move on. Look for the ones who say what
they will do for YOU.

 

[Tony2000]

Exactly. Develop a little bit of rapport and then move things along to meeting in person as soon as possible. Once you're there in person just behave like it's a normal
date, treat her with respect and ask her questions. She should be happy to come home with you after that. (Tip: pick a bar close to your place).

You're going to have to sift through a lot of flakes in order to find the girl who will actually sit down in front of you. Don't get too attached or hopeful with a girl on SA
until she's actually standing in front of you in person. You're going to have a lot of strikeouts before the home run.

Definitely. If you are reasonably attractive, friendly and can make good conversation you should be fine.
I agree that the hard part is getting them to meet in person.
Once they are sitting down having a drink with me, I would say that my success rate is around 70 percent.

 

[Hipjdog]

Definitely. If you are reasonably attractive, friendly and can make good conversation you should be fine.
I agree that the hard part is getting them to meet in person.
Once they are sitting down having a drink with me, I would say that my success rate is around 70 percent.

Yes, for sure. No matter how hot they are if they are giving you trouble in setting up a meeting just move on
to another girl. Not worth it when new girls join the site everyday anyway. Try to find the girl's who start conversations
with more than just "hey".

 

[brian4hartley]

Yeah so SB/WYP was a bust. But SA has been pretty good on the whole, with lots of time involved sifting, true.

These girls are kind of funny. The tend to vanish for a few days after a date... and then reappear. I guess when they run out of money. haha

Face to face my success rate is currently 100%. But you guys are totally right - some of them just can't get over the idea of going from texting a few lines to meeting. And this is where I think I can improve... sift through them faster.

Another thing I'm really noticing is the correlation between baggage and age. Past 25 or 26 a lot of these girls have issues. I think ages 22-24 is the sweet spot.

 

[xix]

Yeah so SB/WYP was a bust. But SA has been pretty good on the whole, with lots of time involved sifting, true.

These girls are kind of funny. The tend to vanish for a few days after a date... and then reappear. I guess when they run out of money. haha

Face to face my success rate is currently 100%. But you guys are totally right - some of them just can't get over the idea of going from texting a few lines to meeting. And this is where I think I can improve... sift through them faster.

Another thing I'm really noticing is the correlation between baggage and age. Past 25 or 26 a lot of these girls have issues. I think ages 22-24 is the sweet spot.

That is said in podcast of older guys who get rich by 40 and they seek girls of 22-24. The reason by 22 most girls already had 3 partners or slept with 12 guys on average.

 

[stinkynuts]

I once saw a drop dead gorgeous blonde in her twenties dining with an older man in his fifties. The girl looked so bored and irritated, I felt bad for the guy. I thought it could be the daughter who was annoyed with her father, but it didn't make sense. A daughter that age isn't a teen with an attitude anymore, and there is at least some connection and interaction. She almost looked pissed. Sad thing is that the guy was probably paying her $500 to pay for her fancy meal.

 

[Tony2000]

Yeah so SB/WYP was a bust. But SA has been pretty good on the whole, with lots of time involved sifting, true.

These girls are kind of funny. The tend to vanish for a few days after a date... and then reappear. I guess when they run out of money. haha

Face to face my success rate is currently 100%. But you guys are totally right - some of them just can't get over the idea of going from texting a few lines to meeting. And this is where I think I can improve... sift through them faster.

Another thing I'm really noticing is the correlation between baggage and age. Past 25 or 26 a lot of these girls have issues. I think ages 22-24 is the sweet spot.

I agree that there is a sweet spot around 22-25 years old. If they are a student, they have enough knowledge and experience that you have something to talk about. And they aren't jaded yet.
My current SB is 22 and we have great conversations .... and yes the sex is awesome.
She had never had an SD before and I think that works in my favour. She appreciates me. But it can be hard to get rolling sometimes with a woman who is just getting started as an SB.

 

[IMBob]

So I've renewed an arrangement with a lady that I met 6 years ago . Now we work nearby . She can only spare an hour in the afternoon, for a late lunch break. There isn't a decent no tell motel for a day rate . I asked , " Ever gotten lucky in a car ? " .... She replied , " yes and we sure can " I can't believe she agreed. I searched for locations. We have parked by a soccer field complex . With warmer weather, it hasn't been so private . A cemetery has worked out. I recently bought a self inflating mattress - advertised for car camping . Very comfy . The rear car seat folds down ; not completely though and more head room would be nice . This is the only time that I've considered a dark tint on windows. It works for us for afternoon romps.

 

[avocat]

So I've renewed an arrangement with a lady that I met 6 years ago . Now we work nearby . She can only spare an hour in the afternoon, for a late lunch break. There isn't a decent no tell motel for a day rate . I asked , " Ever gotten lucky in a car ? " .... She replied , " yes and we sure can " I can't believe she agreed. I searched for locations. We have parked by a soccer field complex . With warmer weather, it hasn't been so private . A cemetery has worked out. I recently bought a self inflating mattress - advertised for car camping . Very comfy . The rear car seat folds down ; not completely though and more head room would be nice . This is the only time that I've considered a dark tint on windows. It works for us for afternoon romps.

My car has always had plenty of "head room"!