because war propaganda never happened before
you are all feelings and no brains
like taking candy from a baby
Here is what peace loving Russian liberation looks like
- Thread starter SchlongConery
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you are all feelings and no brains
like taking candy from a baby
You definitely seem like you are on some candy based on your delusions and it's not the sweet tasty type.
Stop it, it's not a good look. I'm here to help you
14 more civilians in Dnipro permanently "liberated" in their sleep by latest Russian cruise missiles attack on a huge apartment complex. Ukrainians shot down 21 of 23 missiles with only hitting their targets. Russian TV celebrated with the headline: "Direct Hit!"
May these terrorized people finally find some peace from the nightly horror of Russian genocidal terror.
Will be an interesting day reading our resident peace-loving members of our TERB community dismiss this latest war crime.
Slava
Ukraine
May these terrorized people finally find some peace from the nightly horror of Russian genocidal terror.
Will be an interesting day reading our resident peace-loving members of our TERB community dismiss this latest war crime.
Slava
Ukraine
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To end the horror there are 2 options:14 more civilians in Dnipro "liberated" in their sleep by latest Russian cruise missiles attack on a huge apartment complex. Ukrainians shot down 21 of 23 missiles with only hitting their targets. Russian TV celebrated with the headline: "Direct Hit!"
May these terrorized people finally find some peace from the nightly horror of Russian genocidal terror.
Will be an interesting day reading our resident peace-loving members of our TERB community dismiss this latest war crime.
Slava
Ukraine
a) Ukraine needs to summarily defeat the Russians and take back their land. This requires extensive western aid, but will result in more deaths, possibly nukes and a huge escalation of hostilities.
b) The West, Ukraine and Russia need to cease fire immediately, negotiate and come to a compromise. Which means Ukraine will likely lose some land.
I prefer option b). ASAP.
Our governments are advocating for option a) but with reservations where they help Ukraine, but not enough to actually help them win. Expressing Ukrainian nationalism etc., isn't going to help. Being practical and ending the war ASAP on the other hand will.
PS: Amazing seeing "liberal" white people in this part of the world express so much selective empathy and love for Ukraine, while giving two shits about other nations that the US has invaded and brutalized, except for paying lip service for the heck of it after the fact. Goes to show you the despicable, duplicitous and racist nature of our culture where some people's lives matter, while others don't.
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This is a nice one. Russians beat a little dog and break its legs and place an anti personnel mine underneath the tortured animal. No doubt they were hoping that a little girl or boy would try to rescue the pet and be mutilated or killed in the ensuing explosion.
You can highlight more atrocities committed by Russian invaders
and it won't likely boost aid to Ukraine in any meaningful way. I am
now inclined to believe NATO's support of Ukraine will be no more
that what is needed to tie down Putin's army until they withdraw out
of exhaustion. And that level of support is by no means guaranteed
if the war turns out to be protracted farther than anticipated.
and it won't likely boost aid to Ukraine in any meaningful way. I am
now inclined to believe NATO's support of Ukraine will be no more
that what is needed to tie down Putin's army until they withdraw out
of exhaustion. And that level of support is by no means guaranteed
if the war turns out to be protracted farther than anticipated.
Yes, he's made his position clear multiple times.
As someone who is anti-war, he feels whoever strikes first in an invasion and seizes land should immediately be rewarded with whatever they managed to hold onto so as to prevent further war.
Immediate surrender by weaker powers will encourage invaders to not invade by making invasion instantly rewarding.
It's all very logical and sensible.
An anti-war position is to a) Not start wars or provoke wars b) If war has started, work towards quickly ending it.
The anti-war position I advocate for, is to have not even provoked Russia into attacking Ukraine in the first place. The anti-war position I advocate for is to also not assist in continuing this war, and work towards actually ending it.
I know you will immediately come back with - "Why not ask Russia to stop?". Well, Russia started the invasion, and although they did because of NATO provocation, they did start it, and therefore they are not going to stop until they get what they want, even at a great cost. So we need to do the sensible thing and work towards ending the war ASAP. Also, we should be speaking for what WE can do to stop the war, and not for Russia where we are not even citizens. Of course simpletons will now parrot western propaganda about how Russia started an "unprovoked" attack as if they just suddenly showed up and went "SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!".
The other alternative of course is for Ukraine to beat Russia. But how is that going to be achieved?
In the absence of western aid that can actually help Ukraine win the war decisively and quickly, the next best alternative is compromise.
Which is why you have to take the cartoon version of history you do because you don't like that Russia provoked the war.
Regardless of long term outcome or consequences.
Your "unprovoked" attack by Russia version of history, is the cartoon version of history. NATO provoked Russia, not the other way around. NATO is at the Russian border. Russia is not on the borders of the US, or UK or others who are not geographical neighbours.
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The sensible thing is to make the cost so prohibitive that neither Russia or anyone else thinks you can acquire land through war.
This was 11 years ago and the difference is
LCPL David Motari received non judicial punishment for this action, and was discharged from the USMC with an "other than honorable" discharge (which will haunt him for the rest of his life, when seeking jobs.) I'd say the punishment fit the crime.
Instead, the Russian soldier will get a medal from his General.
I disagree with this. If the US or any Nato country invades anyone, drops a bomb to help another country, or defends itself against an aggressor Kreal will jump up and down screaming murder from the top of a Terb mountain.
The question is if it will be Nato's fault if China invades Taiwan or North Korea attacks South Korea, hmmm or is it just a love for Putin and the Kremlin?
Picture WWII was unfolding in an alternative world. Japan
withdrew from its invasion of China near the end of 1939. Should
imperial Japan be rewarded with its occupied territories around
Shanghai and Wuhan as well as the entire Manchuria and Taiwan?
The answer is probably yes and no. China had been receiving military
aid from Stalin's Soviet Union until it was halted at some point after the
Battle of Wuhan. The combined force of Chiang Kai-Shek's nationalistic
soldiers and the communists' 8th route army were too weak to
defend China from Japan's land grab let alone fighting back to recapture
lost territories. Even if Stalin reinstated his alliance with Generalissimo
Chiang it would be highly unlikely for him to have gone as far as
sending Russian troops to fight for China. Stalin had sent weapons
as well fighters to China to defend Wuhan which was as generous
as it was laudable for the sacrifice and heroism of the Sword-of-Justice
group of pilots. But the cost in material and human lives would have
ruled out any possibility of China ever receiving the level of military
aid needed.
Fast forward to 2023. It is apparent Ukraine with the aid it is
receiving can do no more than stopping the invaders from
further advancing. Whether the west should let Putin be
instantly rewarded from a ceasefire is contingent on to
what degree NATO is ready to step up military aid to Ukraine
as the response to any offer of peace from Xi or Putin himself.
Until lately I was wondering if the plan of NATO if it did
have one is to weaken Putin to the point causing upheaval
in Moscow. Regime change for Putin paving way for a
pro-western government to take over Russia is a sentiment
if not the goal shared by western leaders, so I had thought.
But I've become more inclined to believe regime change in
Moscow was more likely a Freudian slip of the airhead
bimbo Minister of Foreign Affairs of Canada.
I think it is more realistic to make ultimate victory for Ukraine
a goal in the near future. It is prudent to find a way to end the
war asap. Ukraine then will have the time to regroup its
armies and rebuild its destroyed infrastructures. It won't
be long before Finland, Sweden, Poland and other NATO
members are equipped with the most state of the art military
weapons and technology supplied by the U.S. Opportunity
for Ukraine to have its vengeance will very likely come up
at some point.
