Weight of electric vehicles could cause 'catastrophic' damage and 'lead to car parks collapsing':

[canada-man]

Multi-storey and underground car parks could collapse under the weight of electric vehicles, engineers have warned.

Electric cars, which are roughly twice as heavy as standard models, could cause ‘catastrophic’ damage, according to the British Parking Association (BPA), which wants local authorities to conduct urgent structural surveys.

Most of the nation’s 6,000 multi-storey and underground facilities were built according to guidance based on the weight of popular cars of 1976, including the Mk 3 Ford Cortina.

But the electric cars currently on the UK market are far bulkier. For instance, the best-selling Tesla Model 3 weighs 2.2 tons fully loaded, making it more than 50 per cent heavier than a 1.4-tonne Cortina.

Structural engineer Chris Whapples, a member of the BPA which represents car-park owners, said: ‘If a vehicle is heavier than the car park was originally designed for, the effects could be catastrophic. We’ve not had an incident yet, but I suspect it is only a matter of time.


Weight of electric vehicles could cause 'catastrophic' damage and 'lead to car parks collapsing': Engineers warn Britain's parking facilities were not designed for hulking battery cars (msn.com)

 

[GameBoy27]

People with EVs make it sound like they're the solution to everything. They're the vegans of the car world.

 

[squeezer]

I could see this coming when I tried pushing an EV out of a snowbank. It's impossible, to do so.

 

[james t kirk]

If they weigh double what an ICE car weighs, it's definitely a problem.

The Ontario Building Code calls for a live load factor of 1.5. That's it. Now the garage may not collapse, but you can't be violating the building code.

 

[Carvher]

People with EVs make it sound like they're the solution to everything. They're the vegans of the car world.

Yeah, I think there are going to be a lot of issues that come up which have not been thought of.
What do we do with these massive batteries at the end of there life?
How environmentally friendly is it to mine all the shit required to make these batteries? How environmentally friendly is it going to be to build and maintain the infrastructure to mine and build these batteries? How does this compare to the structures already in place?

 

[Mr.lover]

Really, why did I think they were lighter than ICE cars? Wow mind blown..lol

 

[hard dick tony]

I was curious after reading this and looked up just the battery weight of Telsa's - 1200 to 1700lbs, just for the battery.

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Makes sense why Telsa is making the battery more of the structure of the car itself instead of the previous frame around/under it - to save some weight.

 

[GameBoy27]

Really, why did I think they were lighter than ICE cars? Wow mind blown..lol

https://www.myevreview.com/electric-cars-weight-comparison-chart

 

[oil&gas]

Public transport not EV is the solution to rising carbon emission.

 

[Uncharted]

So the roads will wear faster. which means more road repairs more often. The tar for that asphalt isn't exactly light on the carb emissions.
Parking structures will have to be revamped and reconstructed. That Diesel construction equipment isn't exactly light on the carb emissions.
The cars are roughly disposable after 7 to 8 years once the battery bank dies. Not exactly light on my Wallet.

And what no one talks about is that ICE vehicles have become so clean in the last decade. That a single night's camp fire produces more CO2 emissions than a late model SUV averages in an entire week of commuting.

 

[jcpro]

That's why the EV medium and heavy trucks are a non starter. The weight of the battery cuts down the useful load too much under the current laws. To make them viable you have to at least double the current fleet and they MUST be driverless to be economically viable.

 

[loverofallthingsfemale]

Heard a new battery pack costs around $20 - $30K when battery life ends in about 7 years. So at that point, its probably more cost effective to just scrap the vehicle. Wasteful really. A vehicle with ICE can last over 20 years easily with regular maintenance that costs a lot less than battery pack alone.

 

[xmontrealer]

Not to hijack the thread, but what happens to people who, in 2035, are forced to buy only EV's when they need a new car, if they live in older condos or apartment buildings or have to street park, with no access to convenient overnight charging?

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Public transport not EV is the solution to rising carbon emission.

Agreed if you can cut down on the stabbings.

 

[danmand]

The EV technology is in its infancy. It is probably laudable that some people want to be on the bleeding edge of this technology. I don't.

A battery pack or packs for a car contain 7-9,000 individual battery cells, who all must work. How is that for a design?

And I am not willing to sit on half a ton of Lithium, which can catch fire if there is structural damage to the battery pack.

I suspect in 5-10 years the technology will have matured to where it is safe and practical

 

[Anbarandy]

Tip my hat to the OP!

A very worthwhile thread topic.

 

[Jubee]

People with EVs make it sound like they're the solution to everything. They're the vegans of the car world.

Bad take with the analogy.

 

[Jubee]

EVs are really a rich man's car.

The was the plan all along.

 

[oil&gas]

EVs are really a rich man's car.

The was the plan all along.

Those who give away their ICE cars and switch to EVs are mostly affluent
middle class as well as climate sheeple. EVs are also marketed to those who
has the money to add a spare car to their collection of ICE vehicles for the
purpose of green virtue signaling a hobby only the filthy rich can afford. I
predict no more than 20% of drivers today will end up an owner of EV by 2035
when sales of new ICE vehicles are to be outlawed. The other 80% will have
to be content with driving their old and worn out ICE cars or riding TTC for
the rest of their life.
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[shack]

Not to hijack the thread, but what happens to people who, in 2035, are forced to buy only EV's when they need a new car, if they live in older condos or apartment buildings or have to street park, with no access to convenient overnight charging?

I have an ICE and have no plans to buy an EV. Having said that, when my condo announced they had the capacity to install about 150 chargers beside the parking spots, I grabbed one. $5,000 with a 50% gov't rebate. Guaranteed that it will increase the value of my condo unit at least 10 fold over the $2,500 I paid.