The uneducated mob believes that.... because they are uneducated and moblike.
The doctors don't believe it.
Lia Thomas exposed 'male genitalia' in women's locker room after meeting
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The doctors don't believe it.
But presumably the AMA and the Olympics appointed a well-qualified committee to study the respective topics and reach a reasoned conclusion. To dismiss that is to suggest that an unqualified person can simply appoint himself the ultimate arbiter on the topic despite his ignorance simply by relying on his prejudices.
It's the ultimate apex of ignorant, narcissistic nihilism.
I agree with Musk- any doctor who does this shit to children should be thrown in prison for life. And any enablers with them.
Well, talk to the Olympics committee. Tell them you're angry about dicks. That you think about dicks a lot. How ugly, threatening and dirty they are and how much you hate them.
Maybe they'll appoint you their dicktator.
That's not likely to happen in Ontario is it, where they have International Pink Day with drag queen shows at York Mills CI?
Go complain to Duggo and tell him you're very, very angry.
The same fucking Olympic grifters who spent decades shaking down countries for games? The same Olympic grifters who thought it a good idea to hold the Games in fucking China? And before in Soviet Moscow- in the cursed land drenched in blood? And my absolute favorite- enjoy because this kind of moral authority is Uber Alles.
So look. I'm up to debate this stuff with you and look stuff up on the Net and talk about it. But you do righteous anger on me and make an idiot of yourself. I went and looked stuff up about Lia Thomas.
She began transitioning using hormone replacement therapy in May 2019, and came out as a trans woman during her junior year to her coaches, friends, and the women's and men's swim teams at the University of Pennsylvania.[2][5] She was required to swim for the men's team in the 2019–2020 academic year as a junior while undergoing hormone therapy and then swam on the women's team in 2021–2022 after taking a year off school to maintain her eligibility to compete while competitive swimming was canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[4][5][11] Thomas has followed all of the gender-related policies to be eligible to compete as a woman in NCAA swimming.[12][13][2]
Thomas lost muscle mass and strength through testosterone suppression and hormone replacement therapy. Her time for the 500 freestyle is over 15 seconds slower than her personal bests before medically transitioning.[14][15] Thomas's event progression peaked in 2019 for distance swimming, with a drop in times during the 2021–22 season. Her event progression for sprint swimming reflected a dip at the start of 2021–22 season before returning to near-lifetime bests in the 100 free and a lifetime personal best in the 50 free in 2021.[16]
In the 2018–2019 season she was, when competing in the men's team, ranked 554th in the 200 freestyle, 65th in the 500 freestyle, and 32nd in the 1650 freestyle. In the 2021–2022 season, those ranks are now, when competing in the women's team, fifth in the 200 freestyle, first in the 500 freestyle, and eighth in the 1650 freestyle.[17][18] According to an archived page of the swimming data website Swimcloud, Thomas was ranked 89th among male college swimmers for that season.[19]
In a race during January 2022 at a meet against UPenn's Ivy League rival Yale, Thomas finished in 6th place in the 100m freestyle race, losing to four cisgender women and Iszac Henig, a transgender man, who transitioned without hormone therapy.[20][21]
In June 2022, the International Swimming Federation (FINA), an organization that administers international aquatic sports competitions, voted to bar all transgender athletes from competing in professional women's swimming, with the exception of athletes who "can establish to FINA's comfortable satisfaction that they have not experienced any part of male puberty beyond Tanner Stage 2 (of puberty) or before age 12, whichever is later", barring Thomas from competing in the women's competition at the 2024 Paris Olympics as she had planned.[33][34][35][36] In response to the decision, Thomas said: "The new FINA release is deeply upsetting. It is discriminatory and will only serve to harm all women."[37]
In January 2022, the University of Pennsylvania, multiple organizations affiliated with the University of Pennsylvania Law School, and the Ivy League issued statements supporting Thomas.[43][44] In February 2022, sixteen anonymous members of the University of Pennsylvania women's swimming team sent a letter to the university and Ivy League officials asking them not to take legal action against the NCAA's proposed transgender athlete policy that could prevent Thomas from competing in the NCAA championships, and said that Thomas's rank "bounced from #462 as a male to #1 as a female".[45][46][note 1] Another group of swimmers from Thomas's swim team made a separate statement supporting her competing on the women's team.[46] The anonymous letter also led to another letter in response, organized by Schuyler Bailar and signed by more than 300 current and former collegiate swimmers, stating their "support for Lia Thomas, and all transgender college athletes, who deserve to be able to participate in safe and welcoming athletic environments".[5]
Brooke Forde, an Olympic silver medalist, said of Thomas that: "I believe that treating people with respect and dignity is more important than any trophy or record will ever be, which is why I will not have a problem racing against Lia at NCAAs this year".[12][47] Another swimmer, Olympic silver medalist Erica Sullivan, spoke in support of Thomas in an opinion piece for Newsweek: "like anyone else in this sport, Lia has trained diligently to get to where she is and has followed all of the rules and guidelines put before her ... she doesn't win every time. And when she does, she deserves, like anyone else in this sport, to be celebrated for her hard-won success, not labeled a cheater simply because of her identity."[48] 23-time Olympic gold medalist Michael Phelps said that "I believe that we all should feel comfortable with who we are in our own skin, but I think sports should all be played on an even playing field" and "I don't know what that looks like in the future. But it's – it's – it's – it's hard. It's a really ... honestly ... I don't know what to say."[5][49] 3-time Olympic gold medalist Nancy Hogshead-Makar supported the participation of trans women, "so long as they can demonstrate that they have lost their sex-linked, male-puberty advantage prior to competition in the women's category."[50]
Lia Thomas - Wikipedia
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This stuff is a helluva lot more complicated scientifically and ethically than you state.
Well, given a choice between debating the science and ethics and ranting about Hitler, you chose to rant about Hitler.
Nice choice!!!
If you don't think that the Olympic big shots made a boo boo by awarding games to a mad man, well...I can understand your "moral flexibility " on children mutilation. You're the man!
"23-time Olympic gold medalist Michael Phelps said that "I believe that we all should feel comfortable with who we are in our own skin, but I think sports should all be played on an even playing field" and "I don't know what that looks like in the future. But it's – it's – it's – it's hard. It's a really ... honestly ... I don't know what to say."[5][49] 3-time Olympic gold medalist Nancy Hogshead-Makar supported the participation of trans women, "so long as they can demonstrate that they have lost their sex-linked, male-puberty advantage prior to competition in the women's category."[50]"
Caitlyn Jenner says:
Caitlyn Jenner Says Trans Community Is 'Oversaturated' (newsweek.com)
Caitlyn Jenner says:
Caitlyn Jenner Says Trans Community Is 'Oversaturated' (newsweek.com)
Tennis star Martina Navratilova slams trans swimmer Lia Thomas for jab at feminists
Tennis legend Martina Navratilova took a swing once again at NCAA gold medalist Lia Thomas for calling out people who claim to be feminists but only “half-support” her as a transgender …
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If you read the wiki bio of Thomas, you'll note that some athletes support her and other oppose her. You do nothing but post one side of the story. Standard. Whatever Fox tells you to do.Tennis star Martina Navratilova slams trans swimmer Lia Thomas for jab at feminists
Tennis legend Martina Navratilova took a swing once again at NCAA gold medalist Lia Thomas for calling out people who claim to be feminists but only “half-support” her as a transgender …
It doesn't matter who supports him or not. He is a man in woman's discipline. From mediocre male swimmer to champion "female" swimmer. And you think that's OK. ROTFLMFAO!!!
I say that it's ok because the governing bodies of that sport says that it's okay and because he has a lot of support from other athletes.
If the governing bodies of swimming said it wasn't okay, I'd shrug and go along with it. Because they're the experts.
Of course, that makes me an "ideologue" to people like you and Dirty who post about this 100's of times a day and who are quite angry. Right?
Yes, and there were governments that legislated racist laws, too. Your responsibility as a presumably thinking individual is to see the wrong and speak against it. Otherwise, you're just an ideologue hiding behind "just following orders" shtick.
Now you back kidnapping kids from their parents and call everyone else fanatics?
