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krealtarron

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Tell that the the indigenous people of Canada and the U.S. Their land was taken over by force using guns
Yeah but the country wasn't built using guns.
 

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Tell that the the indigenous people of Canada and the U.S. Their land was taken over by force using guns
Hmmm....

We had "Indian Wars" like the US had? News to me, Goose.
 

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You don't get it, yes it was, Their entire nation exists because of what they did using guns. That's what started the building. The genocide of the Natives
Yes the takeover was with guns so to speak. But to attribute all of the innovation, sacrifices, politics, trade, hard work and development to "guns" is a bit too reductive.
 

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Yes the takeover was with guns so to speak. But to attribute all of the innovation, sacrifices, politics, trade, hard work and development to "guns" is a bit too reductive.
That's not what I'm saying. Their country was founded by the gun making the building of their society possible
 
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Yes the takeover was with guns so to speak. But to attribute all of the innovation, sacrifices, politics, trade, hard work and development to "guns" is a bit too reductive.
You can split hairs all you want... Canada and America wouldn't exist without guns.

World Wars were fought with BIG guns. The entire modern world was shaped and formed by guns. Before guns existed the world was shaped by other weapons.

It's how geopolitics works.

Nations obtained power because they had better armies than other nations (i.e. more and better guns and people that know how to use them).

You're so detached from how and why you live the way you do. It's a symptom of luxury and excess that you can gleefully remain so ignorant.

The foundation of everything you enjoy is based on weapons, the threat of weapons, conquest, bloodshed... ultimately guns.
 

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That's not what I'm saying. Their country was founded by the gun making the building of their society possible
Agreed. But reductive.
 

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You can split hairs all you want... Canada and America wouldn't exist without guns.

World Wars were fought with BIG guns. The entire modern world was shaped and formed by guns. Before guns existed the world was shaped by other weapons.

It's how geopolitics works.
Reductive nonsense.
 

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Reductive nonsense.
Actually its not, Your live made possible by the guns. Its quite possible the Nazis could be ruling the world right now had it not been because of the soldiers of the allies and their weapons
 

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On a smaller scale, this is what happens when guns (i.e. law enforcement) are removed from the equation:


You can't stop people from robbing local stores and destroying entire communities with words. They must fear getting arrested, spending time in jail, having a criminal record... all backed by men in blue... who have guns.
 
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You don't conquer people with words alone.

You conquer them because you have the ability to enforce those words... and you do that with guns (or bombs or whatever other killing tool available).
How did that happen in Canada, Dirty?
 
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