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The Cost of Driving to Work / Car vs. TTC

explorerzip

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Remember that many (most?) people with a vehicle use it for purposes other than work as well, so you have to pro-rate the insurance/maintenance/home-parking costs to account for those myriad purposes as well.
Exactly. There's a lot of hidden costs with owning a car. People that own or have access to cars are more likely to use them for shorter trips even if they could walk, bike or take transit.
 

explorerzip

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True, especially if you get a seat.
I know that not getting a seat is a reality of transit, but you can work around it by leaving at different times, or waiting for the next vehicle if possible. I know this isn't ideal for bus or streetcars riders though. You don't usually have to stand for that long because there are heavily used stations on the GO and TTC networks.

I've been working hybrid since the start of thi year and the GO trains are not as busy on any day except Wednesday. I guess most large businesses downtown have most people coming in on Wednesdays.

Obviously, there's been a big increase in violence on the TTC in the last 1 or 2 years, but I don't know the crowding situation as I haven't ridden it in many years. It will likely get worse because they're raising fares and cutting service at the same time.
 

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The cost of driving vs TTC vs walking to work. Walk to work at zero cost. The benefits are exercise, less stress, and happier.
 
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I know that not getting a seat is a reality of transit, but you can work around it by leaving at different times, or waiting for the next vehicle if possible. I know this isn't ideal for bus or streetcars riders though. You don't usually have to stand for that long because there are heavily used stations on the GO and TTC networks.

I've been working hybrid since the start of thi year and the GO trains are not as busy on any day except Wednesday. I guess most large businesses downtown have most people coming in on Wednesdays.

Obviously, there's been a big increase in violence on the TTC in the last 1 or 2 years, but I don't know the crowding situation as I haven't ridden it in many years. It will likely get worse because they're raising fares and cutting service at the same time.
Yes, I have been walking to work for about the last 18 years, since I moved downtown. But before that, I would take the TTC from the Kipling station and always get a seat going to downtown but not always coming back(at least until the train started empting out on the way back). I go in every day, but you are right that things have changed with all the hybrid workers these days, just by looking at the food courts.
 

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Remember that many (most?) people with a vehicle use it for purposes other than work as well, so you have to pro-rate the insurance/maintenance/home-parking costs to account for those myriad purposes as well.
Remember that many/most people using transit passes also use it for other purposes and try to avoid any car costs entirely. Very common now to buy condos with no parking space, especially with how much that space costs now, which is another significant monthly cost.
 

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What's the cost of time?

All those hours...add up to days...months...I wish I got a car sooner in life lol
Unfortunately time-saving is the reason why most people
can't just give away their cars. But then I suppose many of the
passengers using GO and TTC transit are car owners as well.
Depending on location of your residence and workplace using
public transit at peak hours are not necessarily time-wasting.
For long out-of-town GO bus trips which I take like eastbound
trips to Whitby and westbound to Meadowvale I found the extra time
spent on the bus a trade-off between the comfort of taking a
nap and the boredom of driving and get stuck in the traffic.
 

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Remember that many/most people using transit passes also use it for other purposes and try to avoid any car costs entirely. Very common now to buy condos with no parking space, especially with how much that space costs now, which is another significant monthly cost.
If you have friends or family out of town a car is a must. I frequently run to Keswick or Peterborough for a quick visit or lunch. To Keswick via car: 45 min. Via transit: 4hrs.

And if you've ever been in a band, try lugging guitar/amps/mics etc. via transit.
 
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Soccersweeper

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If you have friends or family out of town a car is a must. I frequently run to Keswick or Peterborough for a quick visit or lunch. To Keswick via car: 45 min. Via transit: 4hrs.

And if you've ever been in a band, try lugging guitar/amps/mics etc. via transit.
I used to get by with hourly rental cars whenever that sort of thing came up. $80 once or twice a month is still a lot cheaper than owning a car
 

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I work from home so no driving. So comfortable to not have to get dressed to commute etc.,
 

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And if you've ever been in a band, try lugging guitar/amps/mics etc. via transit.
Distantly related point.
This guy had a show about building a "sustainable" house. He built it out in the boonies, he had to get a helicopter to ship some supplies in, a fucking helicopter. So ecological.
Also he was in a band and his band mates would come to jam. Remember before, he lived out in the boonies so they had to drive a fuck ton of distance and lug their gear over because driving for hours is so ecological as would his driving to see them.
 
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GameBoy27

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Remember that many (most?) people with a vehicle use it for purposes other than work as well, so you have to pro-rate the insurance/maintenance/home-parking costs to account for those myriad purposes as well.
Transit is good if you're single, but doing any kind of shopping or travel if you have a family is a PITA. Good lick taking a trip to Costco on the bus. lol

If you care for elderly parents and have to take them anywhere, transit is not an option. If you can get away without a car, then why on earth would you have one. But for many, transit really does suck.
 

GameBoy27

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Time spent driving isn' the same as transit though. You can't do anything else while driving though I know people try to do it all the time with varying degrees of success. You can do plenty of other things while on transit including taking a snooze after a long day.
But if your transit commute takes twice as long driving, then that frees up a lot of time to do other things, that you can't do on the TTC. If it's a snooze, I'd rather do that in my own bed. I think the only time I got a decent power nap in, was when I was on the street car after too many drinks. Missed my stop by a long shot. lol
 

explorerzip

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But if your transit commute takes twice as long driving, then that frees up a lot of time to do other things, that you can't do on the TTC. If it's a snooze, I'd rather do that in my own bed. I think the only time I got a decent power nap in, was when I was on the street car after too many drinks. Missed my stop by a long shot. lol
You also have to factor in things like time you're commuting, where you're commuting to and from, distance the transit stop is to your destination, parking, traffic and construction. I think most people find driving mentally draining when we're stuck in traffic.
 
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