School shooting in Nashville

jcpro

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There has to be some type of ban. American gun laws are out of control. But any attempt at banning, or even implementing stricter access to guns brings a whole host of opposition from the republicans. They stale mate the entire process every single time. So you could accuse the dems of being ineffective. But who is not allowing progress here? Its the Republicans.
See post#80.
 

Gooseifur

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Has anyone seen the manifesto yet?
If the manifesto reads as a hate crime, let's talk.

It may well be one.

We have no idea what this person's story is right now.
True but she probably had a lot of issues being trans going to a Christian school
 

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True but she probably had a lot of issues being trans going to a Christian school
She was not a trans when she was going to that school. My take is she became one after listening too much of their bullshit and or sexual abuse.

Just my thinking...
 

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She was not a trans when she was going to that school. My take is she became one after listening too much of their bullshit and or sexual abuse.

Just my thinking...
I think you're way off on this one
 

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If this was a white kid who shot up a group of trans people or black kids the lefties on here would be up in arms. They are silent on the subject. I'm talking about the usual suspects on here, not you
If the manifesto is an anti-Catholic screed, it will be really interesting to see how it gets reported.

An actual, non-invented anti-Christian attack would probably be fodder for Fox news for months.

Would the Frothy Right abandon their dislike of hate-crime laws in order to make one that only protects Christians?
It will be interesting to see if they try.
 

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If the manifesto is an anti-Catholic screed, it will be really interesting to see how it gets reported.

An actual, non-invented anti-Christian attack would probably be fodder for Fox news for months.

Would the Frothy Right abandon their dislike of hate-crime laws in order to make one that only protects Christians?
It will be interesting to see if they try.
Oh probably, who knows. They will try to spin it their favor just like the left does when their voters are victims of this type of attack.
 

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JC hear me well. I do not give a fucking fuck whatever the gender, sexual orientation, colour or any other kinks school shooter was.

All i care is the US has 1000% more mass shooting then any developed countries.

Just ban the gun for fuck sake. I don't give a fuck about annoying ass hole Shapiro. Kids are dying because of the stupidity of grown men.
 

jcpro

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JC hear me well. I do not give a fucking fuck whatever the gender, sexual orientation, colour or any other kinks school shooter was.

All i care is the US has 1000% more mass shooting then any developed countries.

Just ban the gun for fuck sake. I don't give a fuck about annoying ass hole Shapiro. Kids are dying because of the stupidity of grown men.
OK. Ban them. Oh, and while at it, can you clone me a unicorn? Always wanted to have one.
 

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JC hear me well. I do not give a fucking fuck whatever the gender, sexual orientation, colour or any other kinks school shooter was.

All i care is the US has 1000% more mass shooting then any developed countries.

Just ban the gun for fuck sake. I don't give a fuck about annoying ass hole Shapiro. Kids are dying because of the stupidity of grown men.
The lawmakers and the NRA need to be held accountable. They make people believe the police are unable to keep civility so citizens need to arm themselves and buy guns and ammo as easy as a pack of Marlboros. How they can interpret laws from the 1700s to be relevant to today's technology is beyond comprehension. I'm not entirely sure why rocket launchers hand grenades and anti aircraft guns are not permitted for sale given their interpretation of the 2nd ammendment. The problem is most states have so many stolen guns the legal gun owners think they need 40 or 50 guns each just to even the playing field. A mass shooting every day does not faze the American public who act like they still live in thw wild west, so I have given up hope that the gun problem will ever get anything but much worse. You need training and to pass a test to drive a fucking car for fuck sakes what is so blasphemous about having more responsible gun owners?
 

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I'm going to type this slowly. As long as the words "shall not be infringed" are not repealed, NOTHING, NO LAW WILL EVER CHANGE ANYTHING because it will always be unconstitutional. Amendments are difficult, but they're possible.
Don't pretend to be stupider than you are.
You know it wasn't viewed as unconstitutional until recently and you know that that is a tendentious reading of the amendment.

Should the amendment be repealed? Or at least the rhetoric of repeal resurfaced?
Sure.
I agree.
People hate guns enough now that it is worth saying you want to write a new amendment from scratch.

But the real issue is the Supreme Court.
No law will stand because the court will make up a reason it doesn't want the law to stand.

We saw that last year when Thomas wrote his bullshit opinion that said "it has to be based in history but not if you actually cite historical precedent to do something I don't want done".

So yes, laws is how this will be fought practically.

I do agree that pushing for a new amendment about gun control is a tactic that should be embraced going forward.
 

jcpro

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Don't pretend to be stupider than you are.
You know it wasn't viewed as unconstitutional until recently and you know that that is a tendentious reading of the amendment.

Should the amendment be repealed? Or at least the rhetoric of repeal resurfaced?
Sure.
I agree.
People hate guns enough now that it is worth saying you want to write a new amendment from scratch.

But the real issue is the Supreme Court.
No law will stand because the court will make up a reason it doesn't want the law to stand.

We saw that last year when Thomas wrote his bullshit opinion that said "it has to be based in history but not if you actually cite historical precedent to do something I don't want done".

So yes, laws is how this will be fought practically.

I do agree that pushing for a new amendment about gun control is a tactic that should be embraced going forward.
I'm not even going to address this gibberish.
 

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Don't pretend to be stupider than you are.
You know it wasn't viewed as unconstitutional until recently and you know that that is a tendentious reading of the amendment.

Should the amendment be repealed? Or at least the rhetoric of repeal resurfaced?
Sure.
I agree.
People hate guns enough now that it is worth saying you want to write a new amendment from scratch.

But the real issue is the Supreme Court.
No law will stand because the court will make up a reason it doesn't want the law to stand.

We saw that last year when Thomas wrote his bullshit opinion that said "it has to be based in history but not if you actually cite historical precedent to do something I don't want done".

So yes, laws is how this will be fought practically.

I do agree that pushing for a new amendment about gun control is a tactic that should be embraced going forward.
They should ban ammunition instead. The 2nd amendment doesn't cover ammunition right?

So they should just ban AR-15, AK-47 and any other rifle caliber bullets in the open market. They should make it so people can buy it only at gun ranges.

They should also ban all sales of loose gun powder, primers, shells etc or at the very least raise taxes on them significantly, so it becomes prohibitively expensive to prevent people self reloading at home.

They should also institute laws on how many rounds of ammunition of what caliber people can buy in the open market. So you cannot buy 1000 rounds in one go.

And they should institute laws that require a person to submit proof of gun use and safety training, write a written test, practical test (just like a driving test), and a psychological evaluation before they are given a license. I mean we do something like that for driving tests anyway.

I dont think any of these will go against the 2nd amendment.
 

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They should ban ammunition instead. The 2nd amendment doesn't cover ammunition right?

So they should just ban AR-15, AK-47 and any other rifle caliber bullets in the open market. They should make it so people can buy it only at gun ranges.

They should also ban all sales of loose gun powder, primers, shells etc or at the very least raise taxes on them significantly, so it becomes prohibitively expensive to prevent people self reloading at home.

They should also institute laws on how many rounds of ammunition of what caliber people can buy in the open market. So you cannot buy 1000 rounds in one go.

And they should institute laws that require a person to submit proof of gun use and safety training, write a written test, practical test (just like a driving test), and a psychological evaluation before they are given a license. I mean we do something like that for driving tests anyway.

I dont think any of these will go against the 2nd amendment.
Oy, vey.
 

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jcpro

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What? Its not against the 2nd amendment. I hope.
Of course it is. You cannot pass almost any of it without running into the 2nd amendment. And even if, the Supreme Court flips to minority originalist, and it may one day, it will flip right back, eventually, and the game will just continue. On the other hand, once the 2nd is repealed, overturning the repeal is as difficult as the repeal itself, if not harder. You should look around America, these days. The laws on conceal and open carry are actually becoming more and more common.
 

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Always interesting that even in a case like this where he can probably back it up, Shapiro defaults to dishonesty and doesn't even mention time stamps.
I know he knows his audience doesn't care about how dishonest he is, but you would think in a situation where he has a narrative he can lean into, he wouldn't fall back on these habits.
 
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