Iran still enriching to 60%

[Frankfooter]

It is transparent that your support for Iran is simply because they are actively engaged in removing Israel.

Israel is the one that has been doing the attacking, basketcase.
Iran hasn't attacked anyone, as far as I know.

Iran is an NPT signatory, Israel is not.
Its incredibly hypocritical of you to demand Iran sign an additional treaty when you don't think Israel should even have to join the NPT.

 

[basketcase]

Israel is the one that has been doing the attacking, basketcase.
Iran hasn't attacked anyone, as far as I know.

Iran is an NPT signatory, Israel is not.
Its incredibly hypocritical of you to demand Iran sign an additional treaty when you don't think Israel should even have to join the NPT.

And still ignoring Iran enriching to 84% while pretending to care about nuclear proliferation.

29 pages of you trying to defend Iran by trying to blame Israel for everything.



p.s. I've stated many time that if Israel wants to enter the NPT, it will be as an existing power since they've had nukes going back to the pact's creation. You never complain about other non-NPT powers and you never complain about nuclear powers abandoning treaties (like Russia abandoning START). Just more of your obsessive Jew hatred.

 

[Frankfooter]

And still ignoring Iran enriching to 84% while pretending to care about nuclear proliferation.

Its unclear whether they have enriched to 84% or it was a blip.
The best way to find out is to renew the JCPOA and end sanctions.
Israel should also join and abide by the NPT.

Same rules for all despotic countries.

 

[basketcase]

Its unclear whether they have enriched to 84% or it was a blip.
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It is clear that they enriched to 84%. It's not proven that it was intentional. The IAEA has reported that Iran engaged in unauthorized manipulation of the cascades used to enrich to 60% and resulted in 84% enrichment.

Add to their refusal to re enter the JCPOA which you don't criticize them for. Their enriching uranium at 20 times higher than they need isn't an issue for you. The IAEA investigation into NPT violations isn't a concern for you as long as you can find a way to blame Israel for everything.

It's amazing that nuclear powers of Russia, China, and North Korea have horrendous human rights records and you never have a word to say. It's pathetic that you defend Iran's nuclear actions despite their atrocious human rights record where they torture women for showing hair. China and Iran have had numerous border flare-ups while both being nuclear powers and you make no comment. India and Pakistan are both non-NPT powers who have regular military engagements. Russia withdraws from the START treaty and invades another country and you make no comment on whether they should be allowed nukes. North Korea regularly tests nuclear capable ballistic missiles and you have never once suggested they shouldn't have nukes.

Instead you just try to make everything about your Jew obsession. I'm surprised you're not blaming Israel for the train derailment in East Palestine.

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Same rules for all despotic countries.

China? North Korea? Russia? Iran? Oh wait, you only point out a flawed democracy.

 

[mellowjello]

It's amazing that nuclear powers of Russia, China, and North Korea have horrendous human rights records and you never have a word to say.

According to who?

 

[basketcase]

According to who?

According to pretty much anyone? Or are you suggesting those 3 countries are human rights paragons.

A few sources

Freedom Index by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/human-freedom-index-2021.pdf

Human rights and rule of law index by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com

The average for 2024 based on 175 countries was 5.42 index points. The highest value was in Iran: 10 index points and the lowest value was in Iceland: 0.2 index points. The indicator is available from 2007 to 2024. Below is a chart for all countries where data are available.

www.theglobaleconomy.com

CIRIGHTS

cirights.com

 

[mellowjello]

According to pretty much anyone? Or are you suggesting those 3 countries are human rights paragons.

A few sources

Freedom Index by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/human-freedom-index-2021.pdf

Human rights and rule of law index by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com

The average for 2024 based on 175 countries was 5.42 index points. The highest value was in Iran: 10 index points and the lowest value was in Iceland: 0.2 index points. The indicator is available from 2007 to 2024. Below is a chart for all countries where data are available.

www.theglobaleconomy.com

CIRIGHTS

cirights.com

I'm not suggesting anything, just a simple question.
When you say pretty much anyone, are you including Human Rights Watch?

 

[Frankfooter]

It is clear that they enriched to 84%. It's not proven that it was intentional.

No its not.
They, like Israel, should undergo full inspections.
Both Israel and Iran should sign and abide by the NPT and JCPOA.
Both despotic states should be held to the law and have sanctions put on them until they act more peacefully.

 

[basketcase]

No its not.
They, like Israel, should undergo full inspections.
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Wow your crusade is pathetic.

Sadly you are incapable of admitting that the lack of a reinvigorated JCPOA is explicitly because Iran rejected having the UN investigate their NPT violations.


It's amazing that nuclear powers of Russia, China, and North Korea have horrendous human rights records and you never have a word to say. It's pathetic that you defend Iran's nuclear actions despite their atrocious human rights record where they torture women for showing hair. China and Iran have had numerous border flare-ups while both being nuclear powers and you make no comment. India and Pakistan are both non-NPT powers who have regular military engagements. Russia withdraws from the START treaty and invades another country and you make no comment on whether they should be allowed nukes. North Korea regularly tests nuclear capable ballistic missiles and you have never once suggested they shouldn't have nukes.

 

[basketcase]

I'm not suggesting anything, just a simple question.
When you say pretty much anyone, are you including Human Rights Watch?

Funny that franky liked your post focussing on how widely Iran is acknowledged as a brutal totalitarian regime.

I guess he somehow thinks that admitting that there are some massively rights abusing countries with nuclear weapons somehow excuses his knee jerk defence of Iran.

 

[Frankfooter]

Wow your crusade is pathetic.

Sadly you are incapable of admitting that the lack of a reinvigorated JCPOA is explicitly because Iran rejected having the UN investigate their NPT violations.


It's amazing that nuclear powers of Russia, China, and North Korea have horrendous human rights records and you never have a word to say. It's pathetic that you defend Iran's nuclear actions despite their atrocious human rights record where they torture women for showing hair. China and Iran have had numerous border flare-ups while both being nuclear powers and you make no comment. India and Pakistan are both non-NPT powers who have regular military engagements. Russia withdraws from the START treaty and invades another country and you make no comment on whether they should be allowed nukes. North Korea regularly tests nuclear capable ballistic missiles and you have never once suggested they shouldn't have nukes.

I agree that putting Israel in the same conversation as Russia, China and North Korea is useful. They are also massive human rights abusers as well, I also agree on that. Though as far as I know, nobody is accusing them of apartheid.
Really, the biggest difference is that nobody is willing to defend Russia, China and North Korea the way you defend Israel. Start a thread calling those three out and everyone will agree and the thread will die after one page.
Even starting a thread on Iranian rights abuses and the ongoing protests and everyone will agree and the thread would die.

Why do these threads carry on?
You want war with Iran and you defend apartheid.

That's the only reason.

 

[Frankfooter]

Funny that franky liked your post focussing on how widely Iran is acknowledged as a brutal totalitarian regime.

I guess he somehow thinks that admitting that there are some massively rights abusing countries with nuclear weapons somehow excuses his knee jerk defence of Iran.

I'm all for pressuring Iran on their human rights record as well as offering to end sanctions if they renew the JCPOA, as was the deal.
Just as I'm for putting sanctions on Israel until they end apartheid, the occupation and sign the NPT.

 

[basketcase]

I agree that putting Israel in th...

The only thing you do is try and avoid criticizing any non-Western group by trying to blame everything on the Jews.

Loads of nuclear powers out there and Iran enriching to 84% but in your overtly racist double standard, there's only one country you want disarmed (while making excuses for Iran).

I'm all for pressuring Iran on their human rights record as well as offering to end sanctions if they renew the JCPOA, as was the deal.

Yes, the deal that IRAN REJECTED. Strange that in these 29 pages, you have yet to criticize Iran for walking away from the talks over IAEA investigations.

 

[Frankfooter]

The only thing you do is try and avoid criticizing any non-Western group by trying to blame everything on the Jews.

Loads of nuclear powers out there and Iran enriching to 84% but in your overtly racist double standard, there's only one country you want disarmed (while making excuses for Iran).

There are loads of nuclear powers but only four non-NPT states. Israel, India, Pakistan and Sudan. That's the group you think you want to be associated with?

You keep blaming Iran but it was Trump that pulled out of the JCPOA at the bequest of Israel.
Since then both sides have been back and forth while Israel continues to pressure the US to not renew.

But you really shouldn't whine about Iran signing the additional and voluntary JCPOA while you still claim that Israel doesn't even have to sign the NPT.
Its very much like Kyle Rittenhouse arguing that New York needs more gun controls.

 

[basketcase]

There are loads of nuclear powers but only four non-NPT states. Israel, India, Pakistan and Sudan....

Yet there is only one state your obsessive racism complains about while pushing your anti-semitic tropes about Jewish control. That's exactly my point.

Iran enriches to 84%, interferes in IAEA investigations, and refuses to re-enter the JCPOA but all you do is complain Israel exists. Why are you so desperate to see Israel destroyed?

 

[Frankfooter]

Yet there is only one state your obsessive racism complains about while pushing your anti-semitic tropes about Jewish control. That's exactly my point.

Iran enriches to 84%, interferes in IAEA investigations, and refuses to re-enter the JCPOA but all you do is complain Israel exists. Why are you so desperate to see Israel destroyed?

No, basketcase.
Nobody on this board would post 30 pages whining that Sudan, India and Pakistan should never have to sign or abide by the NPT but instead can attack some other countries civilian nuclear industry.
Only you and only for Israel.

You are the only person here stating that any country shouldn't have to sign the NPT.

 

[basketcase]

No, basketcase.
Nobody on this board would post 30 pages whining that Sudan, India and Pakistan should never have to sign or abide by the NPT but instead can attack some other countries civilian nuclear industry.
Only you and only for Israel.

You are the only person here stating that any country shouldn't have to sign the NPT.

UN atomic agency confirms Iran has enriched uranium close to weapons grade

Corroborating earlier reports, IAEA says inspectors found traces of material at 83.7% purity in Fordo; Tehran says it's only enriched to 60%, which already has no civilian use

www.timesofisrael.com

And yes, because of your Israel obsession, you have shown you don't care about China, Russia, or especially Iran having nuclear weapons. Meanwhile Israel has had nukes for longer than either of us have been alive and didn't even use them when Syrian tanks were minutes away from hitting Tel Aviv. Israel had nukes when the NPT was created so like the US, UK, China, Russia, and France would still be allowed to keep them even if they signed.

Iran has near weapons grade uranium, refuses to re-join the JCPOA and defies investigations of NPT violations but all you're doing in this thread is defending them while trying to demonize Israel.


p.s. Iran has no civilian use for 60% Uranium. The only explanation for them having it is either to make nukes or blackmail the world into thinking they do.

You are the only person here stating that any country shouldn't have to sign the NPT.

Your little buddy says that Iran has every right to have nukes yet you haven't hinted at him being wrong.

 

[Frankfooter]

And yes, because of your Israel obsession, you have shown you don't care about China, Russia, or especially Iran having nuclear weapons. Meanwhile Israel has had nukes for longer than either of us have been alive and didn't even use them when Syrian tanks were minutes away from hitting Tel Aviv. Israel had nukes when the NPT was created so like the US, UK, China, Russia, and France would still be allowed to keep them even if they signed.

Iran has near weapons grade uranium, refuses to re-join the JCPOA and defies investigations of NPT violations but all you're doing in this thread is defending them while trying to demonize Israel.

Israel has weapons grade uranium and nukes, with tech and material they stole from the US and tried to sell to apartheid South Africa.
They should sign and abide by the NPT, as should all countries including Iran.

p.s. Iran has no civilian use for 60% Uranium. The only explanation for them having it is either to make nukes or blackmail the world into thinking they do.

Medical research is a legit use for 60% enriched.

Its not about treaties or peace or even nukes for you.
You just want justification for war.

Israel should sign the NPT and abide by UN calls to turn in their nukes.
Iran should renew the JCPOA and allow inspections in exchange for ending sanctions as originally promised.

 

[basketcase]

Israel has ...

And still you whine about Israel instead of admitting Iran enriching to nearly weapons grade Uranium and severely restricting IAEA inspectors is a major world concern.

Pressure on west to act grows after report on Iranian uranium enrichment

International Atomic Energy Association reveals near weapons-grade particles discovered

www.theguardian.com

It's pathetic that all you can do is make idiotic demands that only one country disarm while excusing a country that is one tiny step away from becoming yet another autocratic, rights abusing nuclear power. It just further exposes your rabid anti-semitic views

 

[Frankfooter]

It's pathetic that all you can do is make idiotic demands that only one country disarm while excusing a country that is one tiny step away from becoming yet another autocratic, rights abusing nuclear power. It just further exposes your rabid anti-semitic views

I support Iran renewing the JCPOA to confirm they are not building nukes.
I support Israel signing the NPT and dismantling their nukes, as demanded by the UN.

Same policy, sign the f'ing treaties and don't build nukes.

You just want war with Iran so you don't want them to renew the JCPOA.