Global warming hits Los Angeles
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Where the libtard response to this post? People like Frankfooter should be put into asylums for their wacky belief and along with on the climate alarmist! Climate emergency… aka rebranded as Climate change rebranded as Global warming…it all a alarmist bullshit with fraudulent data like the Mann hockey Sticks graph ! Should take a real Hockey stick ( “ Mann Hockey stick) and hit them in the head and knock some sense into them!
Well, isn't it nice to see you discussing the science in a reasonable and informed manner.
2023 is yet another regular, cold winter here in Toronto.
Every year I keep hoping the Libtards are right and we have a warmer winter, and every year they let me down
Every year I keep hoping the Libtards are right and we have a warmer winter, and every year they let me down
And once again the usual suspects demsostrate that they do not know the difference between weather and climate.
This chart is 4 years old but its Toronto and clearly shows that phil is clueless.2023 is yet another regular, cold winter here in Toronto.
Every year I keep hoping the Libtards are right and we have a warmer winter, and every year they let me down
I have lived in Toronto for the past 30 years and winters have stayed virtually the same.
FYI climate data is taken over 30 year periods.
Climate data monitoring
Some say that climate is what you expect and weather is what you get. More formally, climate is the long-term average of temperature, precipitation, and other weather variables at a given location. Every 30 years, climate scientists calculate new averages. The normal high and low temperatures...
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All you are saying is that in your experience you have not observed a change in the weather. As it happens I have lived in Toronto for over 60 years and in my experince and onbservation the weather in receny years compared to my younger days is very different. Hence the importbnace of scientific measurement etc rather than apocryphal stories and observations.I have lived in Toronto for the past 30 years and winters have stayed virtually the same.
FYI climate data is taken over 30 year periods.
Climate data monitoring
Some say that climate is what you expect and weather is what you get. More formally, climate is the long-term average of temperature, precipitation, and other weather variables at a given location. Every 30 years, climate scientists calculate new averages. The normal high and low temperatures...www.noaa.gov
How is it different??
BTW my father and grandfather have also lived in Toronto (on and off) for a combined 80 years, and they also havent noticed colder winters. The only difference they claim is we have less snow nowadays, but the temperatures have definitely stayed the same
In my experince there is defineily a lot less snow and there are fewer very cold days and more unseanably warm days. That is entirely subjective and eveidence of nothing at all other than my personal subjective observation. I leave science to scientists.
Okay, lets say you're right. Is that reason to call it a climate crisis??
Are the poles gonna melt anytime soon??
And keep in mind we only have 45 years of oil left before it runs out
I worked at an institute from early 1990's till mid 2000's sharing
the same building with some of the nation's fine Earth and Atmospheric
scientists who performed important studies of weather and climate.
I trust my observation that is no conclusion of climate emergency
that warranted urgent action were drawn from their research.
Lately I made an attempt to elicit from a climate scientist confirmation
of the tipping point in climate change. There is indeed the consensus
among them on Earth's climate reaching the point of no return within
this decade unless global emission is halved by 2030. Somehow I
was unable to find out what climate outcome beyond the tipping
point were predicted by climate modelling. One thing can be certain
though--perfect weather (unknown in the past anyway) can be safely
ruled out. Recurrence of bad weather and natural disasters OTOH can
all be conveniently attributed to climate change.
I look at crises relative to the consequences of action or inaction. I do not recall having personally refrred to it as a crises although i may well have. It is at the least a very importnat issue that must be dealt with. The frequency or duration of climate events is already costing the world economies many billions of dollars annually. This will increase over time.
As I have said before the fact that the train is late does not mean that it is not coming down the track.
A consensus of opinion is not scientific fact
tipping points are someone guess of a future event based upon their theory and numerous estimates of other future events
the models have brutal track record and have a history of failed predictions
A tipping point implies a non reversable chain of events and endless loops of positive feedbacks
there have been numerous times when CO2 was well in excess of todays 420 ppm co2 (2000 to 7000 ppm) and yet ice ages followed
no tipping points, just the evolution of a constantly changing climate
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our climate system is a highly complex, non -linear, dynamic and chaotic system
our climate system has changed, is currently changing and will continue to change
CO2 is not the control knob for climate
frequency and intensity of hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and drought have not increased despite the recent increase in atmospheric C02
the change in atmospheric composition is 0.01%
- Antarctica has 90% of the world ice and 70% if the worlds fresh water
- At its thickest point the ice sheet is 4.8 km deep. It averages 2.2 kms thick,
- Antarctica's average annual temperature ranges from about −10°C on the coast to −60°C at the highest parts of the interior.
- Near the coast, the temperature can exceed +10°C in summer and fall to below −40°C in winter.
- Over the elevated inland, it can rise to about −30°C in summer but fall below −80°C in winter.
- Antarctica is frozen 99% of the time and the sea ice surrounding it is increasing
just another climate alarmists scary propaganda story which is easily refuted by facts and rational evaluation
the real crisis is the intentional and deliberate attempt to mislead others by climate zealots
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The scientific consensus is that repeatedly hitting your head with a hammer is not good for you.
Feel free to disprove the consensus.
(of course I would suggest that listening to the scientific consensus is smart, but you be you)
