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Tashki

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All right…I understand what you guys are saying about cold approaching not being advisable with valid reasons. I will tell you why I do it.

Most of you know I love when women get work done on their body and get their nails done long. Those women are my type. A woman like this isn’t going magically fall on my lap which is why I cold approach those women. I watched the Darius video and he’s summarily saying to approach women who show choosing signals and interest first. I read your suggestions on finding a group activity to join and meet women that way also. I do agree that my success rate would be higher this way for any woman.

My questions for you guys are: What do you think are the chances of a women who get work done on their body with a BBL , fake tits and nails done long showing effort and interest to me first and/or meeting these women through a group activity? Wouldn’t you agree that I would have a better chance of cold approaching the type that I’m looking for?
 
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He didnt say he scored one of the 10. I read his email to mean he was rejected by all 9 OR 10 that he approached.

For civvies you must have or make some sort of connection. Pure cold call never works unless they are a hooker in Vegas lol. Friends of colleagues or friends. Classmates at a course. I recently did a photography course where I was the ONLY male out of 20 students. All the students were 30-55. Let it happen naturally. Eventually the women went from joking about me being the only guy to wanting to partner up with me on assignments to having drinks after class both in groups and 1:1….I ended up sleeping with two of them…both married and I have been flirting with a 3rd one for a month now. Target rich environment…!

For the thrift shop example above, the play there was an easy one as you look through clothes. Simply say with a geneuine smile: “totally your colour…you would look FANTASTIC in that…” then just turn away and continue looking for your own clothes. Prob a 50 percent chance she will then ask you within 10 minutes your thoughts on another dress….after that you are on your own.
 
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Robert Mugabe

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All right…I understand what you guys are saying about cold approaching not being advisable with valid reasons. I will tell you why I do it.

Most of you know I love when women get work done on their body and get their nails done long. Those women are my type. A woman like this isn’t going magically fall on my lap which is why I cold approach those women. I watched the Darius video and he’s summarily saying to approach women who show choosing signals and interest first. I read your suggestions on finding a group activity to join and meet women that way also. I do agree that my success rate would be higher this way for any woman.

My questions for you guys are: What do you think are the chances of a women who get work done on their body with a BBL , fake tits and nails done long showing effort and interest to me first and/or meeting these women through a group activity? Wouldn’t you agree that I would have a better chance of cold approaching the type that I’m looking for?
In your case, you should hang around outside a Viet nail salon. Maybe open the door for customers on their way in and out. lol.

You've got to have an angle. I knew a guy way back who was going to Sheridan college to become a photographer. Wore a war correspondent anorak, aviator glasses perched on top of his head, camera slung around his neck at all times for image. Poser. He got a lot of interest from girls in stores up and down Yonge street.
Just for shits and giggles, this is when I was young, I tried cold approaching a smoking hot girl on Roncesvalles Avenue one afternoon. Told her I was a photographer and she had a look I needed for a photo shoot. After initially balking, she agreed to sit down with me for a coffee. I told her the shoot involved some possible nudity and such. She was on board. She said her friends had told her she should be a model. Gave me her phone number. Turned out she worked with a buddy's girlfriend. The boyfriend was a psycho animal. So I nixed that. However, I tried it at a couple of house parties, when I used to get invited to house parties and it never failed to break the ice. Never followed up on it for reasons of obscurity and poverty on my part, but it was an interesting insight. As usual, a day too late and a dollar short.
 
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All right…I understand what you guys are saying about cold approaching not being advisable with valid reasons. I will tell you why I do it.

Most of you know I love when women get work done on their body and get their nails done long. Those women are my type. A woman like this isn’t going magically fall on my lap which is why I cold approach those women. I watched the Darius video and he’s summarily saying to approach women who show choosing signals and interest first. I read your suggestions on finding a group activity to join and meet women that way also. I do agree that my success rate would be higher this way for any woman.

My questions for you guys are: What do you think are the chances of a women who get work done on their body with a BBL , fake tits and nails done long showing effort and interest to me first and/or meeting these women through a group activity? Wouldn’t you agree that I would have a better chance of cold approaching the type that I’m looking for?
"I love when women get work done on their body and get their nails done long"

So, you go for women who need a lot of money to have work done? Do you have a lot of money? If not, they likely won't care about you at all.....especially if you cold approach......

You are actually significantly reducing the pool of women you have available. Is that wise?
 

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Meeting women is still a catch-22 for me. I use to be extremely shy with girls in high school. I didn’t talk to any of them because I never approached them and they never went out of their way to approach and talk to me. It obviously never helped my case in being good with the opposite sex.

Now that I am older, I do the complete opposite. I approach any woman that I think is sexually attractive at which ever place I’m in. Malls, clubs, expo events, bars and you name it. I got rejected by roughly 9 to 10 women this year so far.

When I didn’t talk to girls in high school, I didn’t get anywhere with them. When I asked those 9-10 women out for a date this month, they rejected me so I never got anywhere with them; It’s a catch-22. I don’t know how you guys were able to escape the catch-22. I’m trying my best man.
You definitely to meet women a different way though. I end up dating so many women that work in my favourite restaurant or my favourite starbucks etcc...

This is because they can get comfortable with me. Also..dont approach women with the sense that you want to fuck them. Stare at them like you want to fuck them but talk to them like theyre one of your boys. Make jokes, relax, make them comfortable

Keep going to a place where she works as a customer. You really cant ask a girl out right away...it takes time.

So many times I see girls walking down the street and im like HOLY FUCK I WANT HER.
BUT..that is not going to work 99% of the time. You cant approach women with a hardon for them randomly.

Have you tried to pretend to be gay? Im not joking. That could work cause women always try to fuck their gay best friends BECAUSE they feel comfortable.

Set up comfort first..then you can have all you eat yummy pussy:)
 

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Agree with others. Way too forward from a stranger. Don't waste your time approaching random people. It worked in teenage years when we were all more open and risk taking.
If you have a hobby or activity you like, start there. i.e. hiking meet-ups. Good opportunity to hike, start conversation over the walk, and if it does not click, maybe they know someone for you or talk to overs to spread your reach. If clicks, you'll probably do another hike or connect online.

Also be realistic - if you're hot, girls will say yes even if the person is obnoxious, deadbeat or "bad" as girls like bad guys.
If you're not, you're playing the "personality" card which means they'll need to get to know you, like cooking class, flirt with the salesgirl at Holts, etc.
 

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Also be realistic - if you're hot, girls will say yes even if the person is obnoxious, deadbeat or "bad" as girls like bad guys.
If you're not, you're playing the "personality" card which means they'll need to get to know you, like cooking class, flirt with the salesgirl at Holts, etc.
This was my thought going into this thread. Despite Hollywood fiction plots that show ordinary guys hitching up to the hotties, most girls are just as infatuated with looks as guys are. If during any point in your life you went to a night club to meet women and took a second to people watch - you know whom the hot girls want just by following their gaze. Walk between them and their target and they will look away until their view is unobstructed. I am not suggesting this is bad, just that possibly your problem is that you are setting your limits too high.

If we fit into the typical norm of male attractiveness and are obsessed with odds:



Either one 10,000,000 : 1 against scoring ........... Scoring both 10 x zillion, zillion: 1 against.



Anyone of them = good odds; All of them - add two tequilas each and I'd say pretty damn good.

It's all in setting your goals.
 

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This was my thought going into this thread. Despite Hollywood fiction plots that show ordinary guys hitching up to the hotties, most girls are just as infatuated with looks as guys are. If during any point in your life you went to a night club to meet women and took a second to people watch - you know whom the hot girls want just by following their gaze. Walk between them and their target and they will look away until their view is unobstructed. I am not suggesting this is bad, just that possibly your problem is that you are setting your limits too high.

If we fit into the typical norm of male attractiveness and are obsessed with odds:



Either one 10,000,000 : 1 against scoring ........... Scoring both 10 x zillion, zillion: 1 against.



Anyone of them = good odds; All of them - add two tequilas each and I'd say pretty damn good.

It's all in setting your goals.
That bottom left one is quite a hottie.
 
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OK, here is my two cents worth, which I hope encourages you. At least in the long term.

Time matters, be patient. If you are the right kind of man, things will swing mightily in your direction as time goes by.

I GUARANTEE you that pretty much every girl in high school that I thought was out of my league would now go for me. Why?

I stay in shape, I have an excellent career/financial situation, and I have become ridiculously confident and care-free as I have gotten older.

Because as you age, MOST people of either gender let themselves go. Men get bellies and man boobs. They sit around watching sports all the time. They don't do anything interesting to women.

Why not go on an adventure vacation of some sort?

Bicycling in Europe - or anywhere! Anyone can hike some interesting geographic feature around the world somewhere. Go on a cooking tour in Italy, or France. Bird-watching tours. There are all sorts of specialized tours these days.

You meet a girl - she asks - where did you travel this year?

Answer 1: Oh, I went to Vegas with some buddies

Answer 2: I went on an amazon adventure tour.

Which one makes you seem more interesting? Which one actually IS more interesting?

But some don't. And as a kicker, if you are one of the one's that don't, you are PROBABLY disciplined enough to have worked hard and smart and you are doing well financially, as compared to most of the high school bad boys who now look 20 years older than they are, are earning peanuts, they smoke, their skin is wrinkly, and like, well, the look like the LOSERS that they are.

So IF you can avoid that, your stock rises year after year after year.

If you don't understand that YOU are the catch, you are lost.

Now, I am not talking about a 60 year old guy going after a 20 year old, but, for me at least, women 15 years younger and up to my own age are always very attractive to me.

I think for many men the age of the women they are interested in changes over time.

It all starts at age 35 when men start to get sloppy. Stay fit, stay well-employed, and live an interesting life, and the odds swing mightily in your favour.

And buy decent shoes and a few good outfits.

And like a good NFL tackler, don't over-commit. Show some interest, talk a little bit, then let the relationship simmer a bit.
 
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What Is a Catch-22? A catch-22 is a paradoxical situation with no apparent way out because of how conflicting or contradictory factors or rules keep you trapped in it. In some ways, a catch-22 is like a "chicken-and-egg" situation. It's a logical conundrum where the circumstances feed into each other, and you always end up back at square one.


Well a Catch 22 situation is kind of a misnomer in this situation.
As in you're not really trapped in a situation. You can opt out.
However, I know what you mean. I was just at the thrift store 10 minutes ago. I like to drop in to the one close to my place after work. Better than going to the bar.
Anyway. I saw a gorgeous Asian woman. Mid 30's I would guess. Obviously down to earth if she was shopping in a thrift store. So we had that much in common. lol
She saw me looking at her as she was holding up a dress in front of herself in the mirror. I sauntered away but for the life of me couldn't think of a viable approach.
In a way, you're busted right off the bat. She knows you are attracted to her with the end game wanting to have sex with her.
What is the payoff for her? You might be a bum,freek,weirdo,loser, so why risk embarrassment and entanglement? She didn't go there looking to get picked up. She may have a significant other.
So unless you are on your A game. Tall, attractive, young, successful, interesting friends, well educated, great career credentials, the odds are stacked.

Work. School. Outside activity groups. They seem to be the only option for most people.
Hope that helped.

I am going to see one of my two regulars tomorrow morning. To get my cock sucked for $70.00 for an hour.
Seems like less of an uphill battle at this point in my life. And more of an enjoyable reality.
$70 / hr ?
 
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