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Andrew Tate is arrested and his luxury villa in Romania is raided by police

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It very well might be happening, we just may not know it. Who knows?
My point with Tate is that if he is indeed trafficking girls then he's pretty stupid to be this public with his persona.

And he doesn't strike me as being stupid.
 

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My point with Tate is that if he is indeed trafficking girls then he's pretty stupid to be this public with his persona.

And he doesn't strike me as being stupid.
His money and fame make him seem not stupid. But he has been self snitching all along. Perhaps he was arrogant that no one has anything on him or some such.
 

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Its the same with men in leadership positions too. Women face challenges with acceptance in positions of authority and therefore are conditioned to either seek lower paying jobs or to not enter into conflicting situations. Similarly men are conditioned into thinking that they cannot be vulnerable and dont seek mental health help and end up suffering more.
What era are you living in?

Anyway, you're right that there are cultural considerations.

For example, the reason why in practically every culture that has ever existed, it's been primarily men fighting on the front lines in battle is because it's self-evident that women and children have greater inherent value than men. Only a handful of men are required to breed a new generation (millions of sperm), while it takes many females to accomplish the same (a few eggs), so women have been guarded throughout history. Countless men can die, but as long as the women and children are protected, society can move forward.

In other words, the biological imbalance between men and women helps to explain how gender roles evolved. Less so, the "patriarchy". Men and women have worked together using their complimentary skills and talents.

Modern drugs, like the birth control pill, have removed some of these biological restraints so that there is less imbalance, but has not erased them by any means.

Our fundamental nature remains intact, honed over tens of thousands of years.

And because women are so coveted, competition for them is fierce. Thus, it takes a Top G to impregnate lots of quality women.

The quality girls get invites on to the million dollar yacht, but you're a dude so you don't. You have to put in blood, sweat, and tears to buy your own.
 
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What era are you living in?

Anyway, you're right that there are cultural considerations.

For example, the reason why in practically every culture that has ever existed, it's been primarily men fighting on the front lines in battle is because it's self-evident that women and children have greater inherent value than men. Only a handful of men are required to breed a new generation (millions of sperm), while it takes many females to accomplish the same (a few eggs), so women have been guarded throughout history. Countless men can die, but as long as the women and children are protected, society can move forward.

In other words, the biological imbalance between men and women helps to explain how gender roles evolved. Less so, the "patriarchy". Men and women have worked together using their complimentary skills and talents.

Modern drugs, like the birth control pill, have removed some of these biological restraints so that there is less imbalance, but has not erased them by any means.

Our fundamental nature remains intact, honed over tens of thousands of years.

And because women are so coveted, competition for them is fierce. Thus, it takes a Top G to impregnate lots of quality women.

The quality girls get invites on to the million dollar yacht, but you're a dude so you don't. You have to put in blood, sweat, and tears to buy your own.
Hmm, so you say we don't need many men, they are too violent and that women could run things?
Don't let this news get out or.....
 
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My point with Tate is that if he is indeed trafficking girls then he's pretty stupid to be this public with his persona.

And he doesn't strike me as being stupid.
He monetizes his obnoxious persona. And he's been lucky, not smart.
 

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What era are you living in?

Anyway, you're right that there are cultural considerations.

For example, the reason why in practically every culture that has ever existed, it's been primarily men fighting on the front lines in battle is because it's self-evident that women and children have greater inherent value than men. Only a handful of men are required to breed a new generation (millions of sperm), while it takes many females to accomplish the same (a few eggs), so women have been guarded throughout history. Countless men can die, but as long as the women and children are protected, society can move forward.

In other words, the biological imbalance between men and women helps to explain how gender roles evolved. Less so, the "patriarchy". Men and women have worked together using their complimentary skills and talents.

Modern drugs, like the birth control pill, have removed some of these biological restraints so that there is less imbalance, but has not erased them by any means.

Our fundamental nature remains intact, honed over tens of thousands of years.

And because women are so coveted, competition for them is fierce. Thus, it takes a Top G to impregnate lots of quality women.

The quality girls get invites on to the million dollar yacht, but you're a dude so you don't. You have to put in blood, sweat, and tears to buy your own.
Our fundamental nature is pretty diminished in this day and age.

Everything else just amounts to conditioning.
 

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Our fundamental nature is pretty diminished in this day and age.

Everything else just amounts to conditioning.
It's more like putting on makeup to conceal what's underlying.

Our nature is "diminished" while living in high standard First World conditions only, but as noted earlier it can only be dampened so far. Everywhere else, they're unchanged. Boys will always be boys.

Should First World conditions plunge into pre-industrial conditions through war or cataclysmic environmental events, our unvarnished nature will return with a vengeance. Like a docile pet dog taken care of in a home versus that same dog left to run wild and fend for itself.

The world isn't fair. It does have built-in hierarchies. As reasonable beings, we try to create a semblance of fairness & justice with the cards we've been dealt.
 
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Andrew Tate: Romanian teens explain how he approached them on social media



Daria Gusa was 16 and still at school, when she says she received a private message on Instagram from Andrew Tate, a high-profile influencer almost 20 years older than her.
"It just read 'Romanian girl' and he put some flirty emoji," Daria told me. "I was confused because I [only] had 200 followers, and it was a private account."
She is one of two teenagers who have described to the BBC how Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan approached them online, apparently using a standard formula.
"It was obvious we were high-school girls," Daria said. "We had our high school in our bio and everything. I think he was just trying to find girls who were as innocent or naïve as possible, in my opinion."


She showed us a screenshot of the message, which she never replied to. But she says some of her friends did.
A message from Andrew Tate's Instagram account to Daria


Daria, who's now at university in the UK, is the daughter of a prominent Romanian politician. She feels able to speak out publicly when others have refused to go on the record.

The Tate brothers are currently in 30-day custody in Romania while police investigate allegations of rape and trafficking, which both men deny.
In video posted online Andrew Tate appears to instruct others on how to approach women on social media.
"In my experience, what raises intrigue [and] inspires them to respond [is]… I ask where they are," he says in the recording.
"Sometimes [for] intrigue, I'll put a completely pointless emoji on the end: some cherries, or an orange, or a strawberry."
Since sharing her experiences, Daria says many young men have accused her of lying.
"Even guys that I used to know from high school are calling me a liar for saying I once received a message from Andrew Tate," she told me. "But [they] don't find anything strange about all the other allegations."


She says many men of her age idolise Andrew Tate, who is 36.
"This is a big problem," she told me, "because we can't wake up in 20 years with two million Andrew Tates."
In publicity for his online courses, in manipulating and exploiting women, Andrew Tate said: "I've been running a web-cam studio for over a decade… Over 50% of my employees were actually my girlfriends at the time and, of all my girlfriends, NONE were in the adult entertainment industry before they met me."
He describes his job as "to meet a girl, go on a few dates, sleep with her… get her to fall in love with me, to where she'd do anything I say," the publicity continues, "and then get her on web-cam so we could become rich together."
He has previously said he would never date a woman over 25.
Gabriela (not her real name) was 17 when she was contacted on social media by Andrew Tate's brother Tristan - though she later pretended she was 19.

She's asked that we call her Gabriela to disguise her identity. She showed me his initial message, which read, "You're beautiful".
"I knew he was using the same approach with other girls," she said. "He always starts the conversation with the same exact line: 'You're beautiful'."


Gabriela said a friend of hers received exactly the same opening message from Tristan Tate.
In his video online, Andrew Tate says the phrase '"you are beautiful" isn't bad as an opening, and goes on to outline what he describes as "a perfect example" of a conversation.
After establishing where the woman is, Mr Tate advises men to ask: "Why do I never see you? Where are you hiding?"
"99% of them say [they're] not hiding," he says in the recording.
This is exactly what appears to have happened in the exchange with Gabriela.
Screenshots of what is purported to be her conversation with Tristan Tate show his next message is exactly as Andrew describes: "Feel I've seen you around town before somewhere. Is that possible? Where have you been hiding?"
"It is likely," Gabriela replies. "I didn't hide."
Gabriela says he invited her out in his car, and to a party, though she declined.
Screenshots of their exchange indicate that the conversation ended abruptly after she posted a video about him on social media.
"Important people will never want to write you if they see you do stuff like this. Just a friendly warning," one of his last messages says.

Andrew Tate: Romanian teens explain how he approached them on social media - BBC News
 

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Tell us that you're an unprofessional police service without telling us that you're an unprofessional police service.
The Romanians, and mind you its eastern EU where traditional masculinity isnt considered toxic, are doing all the incels a huge favor by locking up this dirtbag.
 

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His fans are ardent for sure,lol
So this is an entire YouTube video channel dedicated to worshipping Andrew Tate, right?

It has numerous "Andrew Tate is great and amazing videos" and nothing else. How do you find these things?
 
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