Harvard Cancels Fellowship for Ex Human Rights Watch Chief Because He Criticized Israel

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It looks like there is some justice. Albeit incomplete. Hopefully he’s removed from the judiciary.

Jewish Tax Court judge barred from presiding over cases involving Muslims, documents show

Wow. You guys are claiming he's biased against Muslims because he's a Jew who supports Israel existing? And you wonder why accusations of anti-semitism get levelled at anti-Israel voices. Can't wait until you start demanding all Jewish judges be barred from cases involving Muslims.

To quote the article,

"Mohammed Fadel, a law professor of the University of Toronto, described the Tax Court's decision as "based on a crude, reductive and dangerous stereotype that pits Muslims against Jews and Jews against Muslims as part of some kind of ancient, irrational feud."

 

[basketcase]

Israel has nukes, nukes they stole from the US.
Nobody is going to attack them.
...

Except for Iranian backed terror groups like Hamas, PIJ, and Hezbollah.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yeah conspiracy theorists upset that they get called out when their criticism of Israel veers into anti-semitism.

HRW are conspiracy theorists to you now?
My, how low you've sunk.

 

[Frankfooter]

Except for Iranian backed terror groups like Hamas, PIJ, and Hezbollah.

Ah, you mean the native population?
The natives you call 'terrorists'?

They don't have nukes.
They throw stones.

And still you're scared of them.
Why not just end the occupation and apartheid rule?
Give them basic human rights so they don't need to fight back?

 

[Klatuu]

A big win for free speech and universal human rights….Harvard has backtracked and will now offer a fellowship to Ken Roth, formerly of Human Rights Watch.
Its a huge defeat for the pro Israel crowd and doners that smear those that criticize Israel or speak up for Palestinian rights.
https://twitter.com/KenRoth?ref_src...l-critic/00000185-cb1b-d3a8-a3cf-cf3bc6f10000

Read his remarks :

 

[Klatuu]

Great response from Peter Beinart

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1616124819413647382

 

[richaceg]

Ah, you mean the native population?
The natives you call 'terrorists'?

You doubling down that Hamas isn't a terrorist group?

 

[Frankfooter]

You doubling down that Hamas isn't a terrorist group?

Hamas has committed lots of acts of terrorism but since 2014 they have greatly decreased them.
While Israel has greatly increased the amount of 'targeting of civilians' that should be labelled terrorism.

Both commit terrorism, Israel way more now.
Investigate them both and let the ICC figure out who is the bigger terrorist.
You agree, right, because if you think Israel is innocent this would be the best way to prove it.

 

[richaceg]

Hamas has committed lots of acts of terrorism but since 2014 they have greatly decreased them.
While Israel has greatly increased the amount of 'targeting of civilians' that should be labelled terrorism.

Both commit terrorism, Israel way more now.
Investigate them both and let the ICC figure out who is the bigger terrorist.
You agree, right, because if you think Israel is innocent this would be the best way to prove it.

So you're saying Israel as a whole is a terrorist country? You keep dancing around these questions but never directly said it....this would be your chance to say it....

 

[Frankfooter]

So you're saying Israel as a whole is a terrorist country? You keep dancing around these questions but never directly said it....this would be your chance to say it....

No, but the Israeli leadership commits more acts that are definable as 'terrorism' than Palestinians by far.
In these debates since 9/11 right wingers have used the word 'terrorism' as a racial term. Where attacks by white supremacists or right wing militia are are not called 'terrorism'. Its more useful to use the term 'war crime', the word 'terrorism' is largely used by right wingers to justify their own war crimes. Bush used the word 'terrorist' to justify attacks on civilian structures and to justify assassinations. I think that's wrong.
Putin keeps using his missiles to target civilians and civilian infrastructure, that fits the term 'terrorism', but do people call him a terrorist or Russia a terrorist country?
For you, rich, if you think Hamas' attacks that target civilians are terrorism why can you not apply the same terms to acts committed by Israel that also target civilians and civilian infrastructure?

The best way forward is to support third party investigations into allegations levelled by respected human rights organizations like Amnesty and HRW.
Investigate both sides and hold them all to the rule of law.

 

[richaceg]

No, but the Israeli leadership commits more acts that are definable as 'terrorism' than Palestinians by far.
In these debates since 9/11 right wingers have used the word 'terrorism' as a racial term. Where attacks by white supremacists or right wing militia are are not called 'terrorism'. Its more useful to use the term 'war crime', the word 'terrorism' is largely used by right wingers to justify their own war crimes. Bush used the word 'terrorist' to justify attacks on civilian structures and to justify assassinations. I think that's wrong.
Putin keeps using his missiles to target civilians and civilian infrastructure, that fits the term 'terrorism', but do people call him a terrorist or Russia a terrorist country?
For you, rich, if you think Hamas' attacks that target civilians are terrorism why can you not apply the same terms to acts committed by Israel that also target civilians and civilian infrastructure?

The best way forward is to support third party investigations into allegations levelled by respected human rights organizations like Amnesty and HRW.
Investigate both sides and hold them all to the rule of law.

There are no both sides...Israel is a country with a government with obligation to protect it's people. Jews or Muslims (you know they both exist in Israel right?) Hamas is a terrorist group with one sole purpose...they were responsible with copious amount of suicide bombings purposely targeting civilian areas. They carried out executions on Palestinians and Israelis alike...They are your friendly neighborhood terrorists...whether you like it or not.

 

[Frankfooter]

There are no both sides...Israel is a country with a government with obligation to protect it's people. Jews or Muslims (you know they both exist in Israel right?) Hamas is a terrorist group with one sole purpose...they were responsible with copious amount of suicide bombings purposely targeting civilian areas. They carried out executions on Palestinians and Israelis alike...They are your friendly neighborhood terrorists...whether you like it or not.

According to the Geneva Conventions Israel has a legal obligation to protect Palestinians as well, even during an illegal, 50 year +, occupation. Including all Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank, and Hamas itself.
For you to say they only have an obligation to protect one race is a form of apartheid.

 

[richaceg]

According to the Geneva Conventions Israel has a legal obligation to protect Palestinians as well, even during an illegal, 50 year +, occupation. Including all Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank, and Hamas itself.
For you to say they only have an obligation to protect one race is a form of apartheid.

Where did I say only one race? Now you're only putting words in my mouth...LOL....Israel is protecting it's citizens...not much what Hamas does...making Palestinians human shields....Hamas executed Palestinians for pointing out rocket installations to IDF...I wonder who those rockets are pointed out....again LOL..

 

[Frankfooter]

Where did I say only one race? Now you're only putting words in my mouth...LOL....Israel is protecting it's citizens...not much what Hamas does...making Palestinians human shields....Hamas executed Palestinians for pointing out rocket installations to IDF...I wonder who those rockets are pointed out....again LOL..

Israel is bound by the Geneva Conventions to protect the lives all under its rule, including under occupation. Including all 2.5 million 'stateless refugee' Palestinians, including all of Gaza and Hamas.
That's international law and basic human rights.

What you are suggesting is a war crime, that Israel has no duty to protect the lives of Hamas and Palestinians.

By the way, all human rights investigations have shown that its Israel that repeatedly uses human shields, not Palestinians.

 

[richaceg]

Israel is bound by the Geneva Conventions to protect the lives all under its rule, including under occupation. Including all 2.5 million 'stateless refugee' Palestinians, including all of Gaza and Hamas.
That's international law and basic human rights.

What you are suggesting is a war crime, that Israel has no duty to protect the lives of Hamas and Palestinians.

By the way, all human rights investigations have shown that its Israel that repeatedly uses human shields, not Palestinians.

BS...all you do is post Israel hate sites...
Israel protect Palestinians...

Here's your favorite covenant...
'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)

 

[escortsxxx]

The Harvard rules

• Pause to short-circuit the emotion and reflect.

• Connect with others in ways that affirm the importance of relationships.
• Question yourself to help identify your blind spots and discover what makes you defensive.
• Get genuine support that doesn’t necessarily validate your point of view but, rather, helps you gain a broader perspective.
• Shift your mind-set from “You need to change” to “What can I change?”

 

[Frankfooter]

BS...all you do is post Israel hate sites...
Israel protect Palestinians...

Sites I post from:
Amnesty
HRW
B'tselem
Haaretz
IJVCanada
IfNotNow
Breaking the Silence
UN

Though I know where you are coming from, you are much like this Israeli MP who thinks honouring basic human rights and ending apartheid is an 'existential threat' to Israel.
I say that's how South Africa ended apartheid and sanctions and human rights reports will be how Israel ends apartheid.

Smotrich says human rights organizations are ‘existential threat’ to Israel

Labor leader Michaeli slams far-right lawmaker, says incoming government is the real threat to Israel's democracy; Netanyahu defends Smotrich from online abuse by Likud activists

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[richaceg]

Sites I post from:
Amnesty
HRW
B'tselem
Haaretz
IJVCanada
IfNotNow
Breaking the Silence
UN

Though I know where you are coming from, you are much like this Israeli MP who thinks honouring basic human rights and ending apartheid is an 'existential threat' to Israel.
I say that's how South Africa ended apartheid and sanctions and human rights reports will be how Israel ends apartheid.

Smotrich says human rights organizations are ‘existential threat’ to Israel

Labor leader Michaeli slams far-right lawmaker, says incoming government is the real threat to Israel's democracy; Netanyahu defends Smotrich from online abuse by Likud activists

www.timesofisrael.com

Israeli and Palestinians live and co-exist...Hamas is the existential threat to Israel...world leaders condemned their actions time and again...they should listen to you for being wrong about Hamas...

 

[Frankfooter]

Israeli and Palestinians live and co-exist...Hamas is the existential threat to Israel...

None of these deaths were by Hamas.

Israel: UN experts condemn record year of Israeli violence in the occupied West Bank

GENEVA (15 December 2022) – UN experts* condemned the rampant Israeli settler violence and excessive use of force by Israeli forces against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank this year that have made 2022 the deadliest in this area of the occupied Palestinian territory since the United...

www.ohchr.org

 

[richaceg]

None of these deaths were by Hamas.

Israel: UN experts condemn record year of Israeli violence in the occupied West Bank

GENEVA (15 December 2022) – UN experts* condemned the rampant Israeli settler violence and excessive use of force by Israeli forces against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank this year that have made 2022 the deadliest in this area of the occupied Palestinian territory since the United...

www.ohchr.org

Keep telling yourself that...Gaza has been like that since when? the conflict will never end until Hamas cease to exist...until Palestinians themselves get rid of Hamas...but you wouldn't want that i'm sure...