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If I recall he came out of prison at 250lb's.

George Foreman always said he didn't believe in weight lifting. Thought it slowed him down. In his prime he was a big scary muscular guy.
I think that’s one of the things that happened to Tyson- the extra muscle mass did not help him in the ring.
 

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I've never really liked soy. I'm more of a center Liberal carnivore and green kind of guy. I also don't hate Oracle. I just don't agree with much of what he has to say but I don't hate him.

I do however think Tate is a POS who deserves to rot in jail.
80% of soy is GMO.

It has lower BCAA's and a lower quality of EAA's compared to animal sources on a gram per gram basis. It's thought that the isoflavones is soy can cause an estrogenic effect to some degree.

I'll pass on the soy as well.
 

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I think that’s one of the things that happened to Tyson- the extra muscle mass did not help him in the ring.
When Cus died he was a ship without a rudder. He did zero sparring for the Douglas fight he has said.

Teddy Atlas' departure was another factor.
 

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Mostly all functional training plus cable preacher curls and dumbell curls.....Not what say Evander Holyfield was doing. He was weight training..
It wouldn't surprise me if Hershell lifted but just stayed away from the camera. I believe he started with only body weight and built a solid foundation but as the money came in, I would bet he's hit the gym in private.
 
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It wouldn't surprise me if Hershell lifted but just stayed away from the camera. I believe he started with only body weight and built a solid foundation but as the money came in, I would bet he's hit the gym in private.
I believe like Bo Jackson he was just a freak of nature. Now I'm sure you're going to investigate this one but I recall Jackson didn't do any serious weight training either.
 

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Incorrect. He's kickboxer. He discusses what his training regimen was. Elite athlete have strength transfers.

225lb' is not a lot of weight.

I've already mentioned Conroy Nelson could do this. So could Ben Johnson. Neither trained regularly with weights. Christ my best friend in university would bench once a month and could get 315 for 8 no problem. Once again he was an elite athlete
You're wrong about Ben Johnson. I belong to Charlie Francis (RIP) message board and used to post there sometimes.
Link: https://forum.charliefrancis.com/

When Ben was training hard in his early days he could bench 315 for reps and squat over 700 lbs.
All this according to his ex-coach Charlie Francis
 
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I believe like Bo Jackson he was just a freak of nature. Now I'm sure you're going to investigate this one but I recall Jackson didn't do any serious weight training either.
Yeah, I agree he was a freak of nature but the man walked into a weight room and benched 400lbs. I don't care who you are and how awesome your genetics are. Nobody is walking into a gym, laying back on a bench press and pumping out a 400lb bench press if you've never done it before unless maybe you are the size of Andre the Giant. LOL

One can claim he doesn't do it on a regular basis. I myself mainly use heavy dumbells for benching and can still do a decent bench press but can I claim I never bench press? No, because I still do with the use of dumbells. I can also say, my PR with the bar isn't as good as when I was benching with the bar regularly.
 

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You're wrong about Ben Johnson. I belong to Charlie Francis (RIP) message board and used to post there sometimes.
Link: https://forum.charliefrancis.com/

When Ben was training hard in his early days he could bench 315 for reps and squat over 700 lbs.
All this according to his ex-coach Charlie Francis
Okay....What I am saying that he wasn't he regular weight trainer. Like in the weight room 3 to 4 times a week. Hitting a body part twice a week like was common with bodybuilders of that era. Francis was ahead of the curve when it came to training though, So yes I agree he was weight training. He was a fast twitch marvel. PEDs aside.
 
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What a sick fuck! Who writes that? Like seriously…..
Perhaps a man who sleeps with lots of women, including women that are freaks in bed and have rape fantasies.

We do know that you and millions of women enjoy when a man is a "sick fuck" on the big screen in films like 50 Shades of Grey.

I've been with women that like their ass smacked until its black and blue... and I'm just a regular guy.

Omitting the woman's responses and texts stinks of a lack of integrity and context. We do know that the case was thrown out.

Lots of good info from the fellas.


In case you forgot, Johnny Depp wasn't a wife beater.
 

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Perhaps a man who sleeps with lots of women, including women that are freaks in bed and have rape fantasies.

We do know that you and millions of women enjoy when a man is a "sick fuck" on the big screen in films like 50 Shades of Grey.

I've been with women that like their ass smacked until its black and blue... and I'm just a regular guy.

Omitting the woman's responses and texts stinks of a lack of integrity and context. We do know that the case was thrown out.

Lots of good info from the fellas.


In case you forgot, Johnny Depp wasn't a wife beater.
Okay so other day I discussed with this a female friend of mine who is an ex MPA. She's been around the block a few times.

She's following this whole schmozzle with Tate.

When she read what he allegedly texted. She said everybody has their kink when it comes to sex. Perhaps this was just theirs. Straight up that was her response.

Now perhaps he's that stupid to think he can sexually assault her and can text her about it in that fashion but I'm thinking not. Or better yet I'm prepared to accept the possibility that he is not.

I know one thing for sure if is innocent and walks on this they're going look mighty stupid.
 

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Okay so other day I discussed with this a female friend of mine who is an ex MPA. She's been around the block a few times.

She's following this whole schmozzle with Tate.

When she read what he allegedly texted. She said everybody has their kink when it comes to sex. Perhaps this was just theirs. Straight up that was her response.

Now perhaps he's that stupid to think he can sexually assault her and can text her about it in that fashion but I'm thinking not. Or better yet I'm prepared to accept the possibility that he is not.

I know one thing for sure if is innocent and walks on this they're going look mighty stupid.
FWIW I watched a video with some Romanian lawyer who said that the prosecution is currently led by some very top brass guy who would never accept carriage of this case if there was a chance it was a loser. If I was Tate I would hate hearing that.
 

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FWIW I watched a video with some Romanian lawyer who said that the prosecution is currently led by some very top brass guy who would never accept carriage of this case if there was a chance it was a loser. If I was Tate I would hate hearing that.
Think about what you just said for a minute.....

Now consider what people you know personally that are Romanians and what they have to say about their legal system.

I'll tell you from my dealings it's not very flattering in the least.

I said this before. If he was being charged in the UK I would feel more assured of the possibility of guilt.
 
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