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Would you like me to post pics of Tate actually lifting weights prior to the video. He was full of shit. As I mentioned there is another video of Thurston where it shows his true feelings of Tate after that hit to the nose. Thurston relies on his mug to make money and the last thing he needed was a chance at a broken nose which clearly Tates last punch came close.

100 push ups does not translate to a 225lb 10 rep bench press if you've never lifted.
I'm not sure you actually watched the video.....It was 1000 push ups and once again he did 8 reps.

He's only pressing marginally over his bodyweight. pretty doable for a world class athlete.

You're being obtuse......
 

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I'm not sure you actually watched the video.....It was 1000 push ups and once again he did 8 reps.

He's only pressing marginally over his bodyweight. pretty doable for a world class athlete.

You're being obtuse......
You're being gullible but that's ok, you be you. You go ahead and believe everything Tate says, it's your right.

ps....did you notice him lifting in the other vids? Take a look.
 
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I'm not sure you actually watched the video.....It was 1000 push ups and once again he did 8 reps.

He's only pressing marginally over his bodyweight. pretty doable for a world class athlete.

You're being obtuse......
Pushups and bench presses dont translate directly. You could weigh 225lb, but the actual weight loading when you do pushups is much less.

When you do a bench press your loading is more on your muscles.

Its not possible for someone who has never lifted to bench press 225lbs. He is an athlete. He definitely lifts.
 

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Pushups and bench presses dont translate directly. You could weigh 225lb, but the actual weight loading when you do pushups is much less.

When you do a bench press your loading is more on your muscles.

Its not possible for someone who has never lifted to bench press 225lbs. He is an athlete. He definitely lifts.
Now if he struggled and managed to push up a single 225, meh, maybe sure. Some are genetic freaks but to do reps and do it easier than Thurston, not a chance.
 

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Now if he struggled and managed to push up a single 225, meh, maybe sure. Some are genetic freaks but to do reps and do it easier than Thurston, not a chance.
Not to mention he is a combat sport athlete. They all lift, do HIIT cardio and take PEDs. Especially in eastern EU where he mostly fought, where you aren't subjected to USADA testing protocols.
 

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Not to mention he is a combat sport athlete. They all lift, do HIIT cardio and take PEDs. Especially in eastern EU where he mostly fought, where you aren't subjected to USADA testing protocols.
His fighting skills are impressive. He actually broke a baseball with his shin. I will give credit where credit is due but he is still a lying, pimping POS. LOL
 

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Pushups and bench presses dont translate directly. You could weigh 225lb, but the actual weight loading when you do pushups is much less.

When you do a bench press your loading is more on your muscles.

Its not possible for someone who has never lifted to bench press 225lbs. He is an athlete. He definitely lifts.
Incorrect. He's kickboxer. He discusses what his training regimen was. Elite athlete have strength transfers.

225lb' is not a lot of weight.

I've already mentioned Conroy Nelson could do this. So could Ben Johnson. Neither trained regularly with weights. Christ my best friend in university would bench once a month and could get 315 for 8 no problem. Once again he was an elite athlete.
 

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Incorrect. He's kickboxer. He discusses what his training regimen was. Elite athlete have strength transfers.

225lb' is not a lot of weight.

I've already mentioned Conroy Nelson could do this. So could Ben Johnson. Neither trained regularly with weights. Christ my best friend in university would bench once a month and could get 315 for 8 no problem. Once again he was an elite athlete.
Elite athletes, lift. Period. Combat sports athletes, lift. Period.

You dont become an elite athlete without muscle mass, and muscle mass doesn't build without weight training.

What the hell are you smoking?
 

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Incorrect. He's kickboxer. He discusses what his training regimen was. Elite athlete have strength transfers.

225lb' is not a lot of weight.

I've already mentioned Conroy Nelson could do this. So could Ben Johnson. Neither trained regularly with weights. Christ my best friend in university would bench once a month and could get 315 for 8 no problem. Once again he was an elite athlete.
What are you smoking? Ben Johnston lifted weights. YOu can't get a body as he had without little PED boost and weight training.

 

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Elite athletes, lift. Period. Combat sports athletes, lift. Period.

You dont become an elite athlete without muscle mass, and muscle mass doesn't build without weight training.

What the hell are you smoking?
Dude Herschel Walker never lifted a weight in his life. So how did he get so muscular? Explain Conroy Nelson? How about Mike Tyson or Mike Weaver.
 

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What are you smoking? Ben Johnston lifted weights. YOu can't get a body as he had without little PED boost and weight training.

He didn't train regularly with weights.Especially bench. And yes you can get a body like he has without PED's. You just can't run as fast.
 

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Dude Herschel Walker never lifted a weight in his life. So how did he get so muscular? Explain Conroy Nelson? How about Mike Tyson or Mike Weaver.
I'm pretty sure Herschel lifted weights, Orry.
 

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Dude Herschel Walker never lifted a weight in his life. So how did he get so muscular? Explain Conroy Nelson? How about Mike Tyson or Mike Weaver.
He used his body as the weight but the repetitions needed were through the roof.


Mike Tyson did lift weights

 

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Dude Herschel Walker never lifted a weight in his life. So how did he get so muscular? Explain Conroy Nelson? How about Mike Tyson or Mike Weaver.
If they didn't lift traditional weights, they would have done calisthenics. Calisthenics basically uses your body weight as resistance instead of external weights. Regardless muscle mass doesn't build without loading muscles with some type of weight.

Also,

 

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He used his body as the weight but the repetitions needed were through the roof.


Mike Tyson did lift weights

As I recall, Tyson seemed to bulk up over the time he was in prison.

Prior to that, I assume he still lifted weights but perhaps not as much.
 
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I just popped into this thread reluctantly curious of the banter. Why to you engage with these liberal soy shit heads? You will never convince them. They hate you.
I've never really liked soy. I'm more of a center Liberal carnivore and green kind of guy. I also don't hate Oracle. I just don't agree with much of what he has to say but I don't hate him.

I do however think Tate is a POS who deserves to rot in jail.
 
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If they didn't lift traditional weights, they would have done calisthenics. Calisthenics basically uses your body weight as resistance instead of external weights. Regardless muscle mass doesn't build without loading muscles with some type of weight.

Also,

Yeah Tyson post Cus didn't exactly bust his ass training.....These guys were all muscular without regular weight training. My original point was that Tate could bench 225 without regular weight training. So doing 1000 push ups a day is really impressive. If you watch the video. Which I figure you haven't. He doing dips and chins with relative ease. He's a strong guy. Wouldn't discount that he's doing AAS as well. My guess is Thurston is as well.
 
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As I recall, Tyson seemed to bulk up over the time he was in prison.

Prior to that, I assume he still lifted weights but perhaps not as much.
If I recall he came out of prison at 250lb's.

George Foreman always said he didn't believe in weight lifting. Thought it slowed him down. In his prime he was a big scary muscular guy.
 
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