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Maine School Social Worker Secretly Gender-Transitioned 13-Year-Old Girl with Chest binder to flatten her breast.

krealtarron

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In most countries there is a standard (14 in many places) and younger people can be treated as decision makers if the doctors see them as making informed choices. Same with vaccines. Same with birth control. Get over it.


p.s. Still pretending a tight shirt is a medical procedure?
You have no idea what you are going on about. You are not even following the convo.
 
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Jesus...I just read the first page of posts and the level of ignorance and fear-mongering from the righties on this board is astounding. I mean, I'm not new here, so maybe it isn't that shocking...

I get it. You don't believe in gender fluidity, even though its something that has been documented in cultures and civilizations across the world and in different eras. But to hear you babble all the time about groomers in the schools while ignoring the groomers in churches, temples and synagogues is utterly ridiculous. And the level of misinformation in these first few posts....SMH....
 
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I know right? What could possibly ever go wrong with doing this to young teen girls who never ever suffer from social media exposure?

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It is also VITALLY important that women ensure that a man's comfort takes precedence over a woman's safety, no matter what the environment right?

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Gender-affirming care arguably is violence against children, who lack the maturity to give real consent to drugs and surgeries that leave them infertile, disfigured, and often full of regret. It cannot be consent if you don’t fully understand the consequences.

They will be involved in the medical industry until they die — even de-transitioning brings with it a lot of medical needs.
Here's a shocker for you: They don't do ANY of those procedures without serious counseling, therapy and other treatments. Those are not the first steps, but the last. And, study after study shows that ignoring these issues in children (and other things like homosexuality) contributes to worsening their mental health, leading to depression and suicide. But since the righties are now hyper focused on this bullshit, like CRT, I guess we'll continue to get stupid posts like this from @Addict2sex or more videos from Jordan Peterson....
 
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Here's a shocker for you: They don't do ANY of those procedures without serious counseling, therapy and other treatments. Those are not the first steps, but the last. And, study after study shows that ignoring these issues in children (and other things like homosexuality) contributes to worsening their mental health, leading to depression and suicide. But since the righties are now hyper focused on this bullshit, like CRT, I guess we'll continue to get stupid posts like this from @Addict2sex or more videos from Jordan Peterson....
I don't know if it is still the case but in Ontario it was and still may be required as a condition of any gender reassignment that the person go through the gender identity program.

These idiot maga people think firstly that people decide to change their gender on a whim and then that it is easy to do.

They are obsessed with other peoples sex an sexuality instead of worrying about their own.
 

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Notice the cutting on this teen girl who took the next step? ...
Very nice debating tactic of using a graphic picture that was not chest binding to argue against chest binding.

But you're right about that case. It's a shame that kid didn't have a social worker to tell them that self-surgery isn't a good idea.
 
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I don't know if it is still the case but in Ontario it was and still may be required as a condition of any gender reassignment that the person go through the gender identity program.

These idiot maga people think firstly that people decide to change their gender on a whim and then that it is easy to do.

They are obsessed with other peoples sex an sexuality instead of worrying about their own.
Is that what it is?
If people have a reasonably different perspective, they're idiots or "maga"?
I could say that was typical of "woke" people, trying to shut down discussion by insulting and demonizing, is that fair for you?

Are you oversimplifying this because it suits your narrative or is it that you REALLY don't get it?
This has nothing to do with "obsession" about other peoples' sexuality or assumptions people make,
it's about whether it's reasonable for a parent to be informed about what their child is going through and how they are being counselled.
You think it's ok for someone who may not be qualified but is assumed to be because they're hired by the board, to counsel your child with no real understanding or context about your child's life, and not inform you that there are issues with your child and how your child is being handled.
Your child, the one you are responsible for loving, for health, safety, emotional and financial needs, and you get cut out of the picture over something this significant.
You don't see how people would have a problem with this?
 
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Is that what it is?
If people have a reasonably different perspective, they're idiots or "maga"?
I could say that was typical of "woke" people, trying to shut down discussion by insulting and demonizing, is that fair for you?

Are you oversimplifying this because it suits your narrative or is it that you REALLY don't get it?
This has nothing to do with "obsession" about other peoples' sexuality or assumptions people make,
it's about whether it's reasonable for a parent to be informed about what their child is going through and how they are being counselled.
You think it's ok for someone who may not be qualified but is assumed to be because they're hired by the board, to counsel your child with no real understanding or context about your child's life, and not inform you that there are issues with your child and how your child is being handled.
Your child, the one you are responsible for loving, for health, safety, emotional and financial needs, and you get cut out of the picture over something this significant.
You don't see how people would have a problem with this?
Are you arguing that parents get to choose the sexual self identification of their kids?
That kids can't choose how they self identify until they are legal adults?
 
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toguy5252

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Is that what it is?
If people have a reasonably different perspective, they're idiots or "maga"?
I could say that was typical of "woke" people, trying to shut down discussion by insulting and demonizing, is that fair for you?

Are you oversimplifying this because it suits your narrative or is it that you REALLY don't get it?
This has nothing to do with "obsession" about other peoples' sexuality or assumptions people make,
it's about whether it's reasonable for a parent to be informed about what their child is going through and how they are being counselled.
You think it's ok for someone who may not be qualified but is assumed to be because they're hired by the board, to counsel your child with no real understanding or context about your child's life, and not inform you that there are issues with your child and how your child is being handled.
Your child, the one you are responsible for loving, for health, safety, emotional and financial needs, and you get cut out of the picture over something this significant.
You don't see how people would have a problem with this?
No actually most maga people are actually and objectively and demonstrably idiots. And by maga people I am not referring to all followers if the stable genius but the group represented by MTG, Gaetz, Boebert, Jordan etc al.

Nothing at all to do with wokeness. Are you seriously suggesting that they are not?
 

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No actually most maga people are actually and objectively and demonstrably idiots. And by maga people I am not referring to all followers if the stable genius but the group represented by MTG, Gaetz, Boebert, Jordan etc al.

Nothing at all to do with wokeness. Are you seriously suggesting that they are not?
I'm not interested in discussing politics, I'm interested in how you categorize people this way as it pertains to the point at hand. How about addressing the rest of the comment.
 
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The point of counselling and therapy is that you get private consultation, that parents aren't included.
I know what the point is, that's my point. Do you believe given the significance of an issue like this, given the child's age, a parent should be excluded from the process, a parent should accept anyone the state appoints, qualified or not and not have any knowledge?
 
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I'm not interested in discussing politics, I'm interested in how you categorize people this way as it pertains to the point at hand. How about addressing the rest of the comment.
The point is that no one here has all the information which would be required to make an informed judgement about this young person and the social worker. This is a very complicated and difficult issue fir anyone to deal with and the headline just demonstrates an agenda which has nothing at all to do with the facts which are known.
 
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The point is that no one here has all the information which would be required to make an informed judgement about this young person and the social worker. This is a very complicated and difficult issue fir anyone to deal with and the headline just demonstrates an agenda which has nothing at all to do with the facts which are known.
Of course it's complicated, and just because it's policy doesn't mean that it's right or that most people agree with it. At the very least, you don't think parents are entitled to know that there is an issue going on with their child that the government is intervening into?
 
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Of course it's complicated, and just because it's policy doesn't mean that it's right or that most people agree with it. At the very least, you don't think parents are entitled to know that there is an issue going on with their child that the government is intervening into?
I believe it is the young persons right to share it nit share 5hat information with whoever they wish. It may say something about their relationship with their parents that they apparently chose not to.

I would hope in similar circumstances my child would have enough trust in me that they would confide in me.

But if nit that may say something about my relationship with my child.
 
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I know what the point is, that's my point. Do you believe given the significance of an issue like this, given the child's age, a parent should be excluded from the process, a parent should accept anyone the state appoints, qualified or not and not have any knowledge?
It is up to the young person to decide who to share that information with. If the duty of confidentiality us broken then the young person has no one to confide in given that apparently they did not wish 5heur parents to know.
 
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Are you arguing that parents get to choose the sexual self identification of their kids?
That kids can't choose how they self identify until they are legal adults?
A pre-pubescent kid, or a kid that has just reached puberty, doesn't know enough to self identify as a different gender. That is ridiculous woke liberal pseudo science hipsterish nonsense.
 

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I believe it is the young persons right to share it nit share 5hat information with whoever they wish. It may say something about their relationship with their parents that they apparently chose not to.

I would hope in similar circumstances my child would have enough trust in me that they would confide in me.

But if nit that may say something about my relationship with my child.
Are you joking?
You would trust the judgement and perspective of a 12 year old over your own to do the right thing? Most kids at this age think they know everything, that their parents are clued out about everything.
Kids want to keep everything secret, you're good with that? Your kid doesn't want to open up to you so it must be a problem with you?

Do you trust your kid's discretion when it comes to drinking, smoking, weed? If they develop an addiction, is it ok for a counselor to keep it private from you and determine how they will treat your child? Is it ok for your 13 year old to participate in consentual sex with an adult, get abused and this can be kept from you because the kid decides that they don't want you to find out.
What planet are you from?
 
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