Rickards: Time To Get Real About Ukraine

Frankfooter

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This right here. This country will be decimated in the end.

They will be fighting over dust. What's the point.
You can rebuild cities.
But not if there is no Ukraine.

The big questions now are whether Putin will lose the land he held since 2014.
 

oil&gas

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In the end the winner to emerge will be a dubious one.
There will surely be beneficiaries of the war.
 

WULA

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The USA loves proxy wars. But their track record of winning since WW II is pretty consistent.
 

Darts

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Ukraine's biggest problem is Russia has mass. That was how they defeated Nazi Germany in WW II.

But, mass doesn't always win. Look how many times Israel defeated the Arabs.
 

Robert Mugabe

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Your right. If they really thought about what benefits their country they would have to conclude that it is best to cede a large portion of their country to a murderous war criminal who invaded.

If only the UK had tacitly condonded Hitler's invasion of Poland WWI could have been avoided. Oh wait a second ...
Britain tacitly condoning Hitler's invasion of Poland or not made no fucking difference as far as their part in it. They didn't defeat Hitler. America won the war for them. Along with us and everybody else who pitched in.
Unfortunately America can't get it's feet wet on this one. Nuclear war and all. Ukraine isn't exactly winning. They are getting bombed to shit. Over an extended period of time, which they don't have, but Putin does.
 

danmand

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Britain tacitly condoning Hitler's invasion of Poland or not made no fucking difference as far as their part in it. They didn't defeat Hitler. The Soviet Union won the war for them. Along with us and everybody else who pitched in.
Unfortunately America can't get it's feet wet on this one. Nuclear war and all. Ukraine isn't exactly winning. They are getting bombed to shit. Over an extended period of time, which they don't have, but Putin does.
Fixed your post
 
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Robert Mugabe

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Fixed your post
The Soviet Union were willing accomplices in dividing Poland between themselves and the Germans. They signed a non aggression pact with the Germans and were delivering fuel, and raw materials of every kind to enable Hitler to take Western Europe. Until the Germans attacked them. The British ran convoys all through the war to keep the Russians supplied with whatever they asked for.
Fixed your false statement for you.
 

MrMessi

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American government partying while Ukrainians get slaughtered, they totally set them up for this invasion.

Evil to the core!
 

bver_hunter

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Russia claims that 600 Ukrainian Soldiers were killed in a deadly bombing. Once again without real proof:

 

Leimonis

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Ukraine's biggest problem is Russia has mass. That was how they defeated Nazi Germany in WW II.

But, mass doesn't always win. Look how many times Israel defeated the Arabs.
Russia was receiving American weapons in WW2.
Guess who is receiving it now.
 
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oil&gas

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Guess how many lives of the people of the
western allies were saved by the lend lease aid
to Soviet Union in WWII. And guess how many
lives in NATO nations will be spared by military
aids to Ukraine when the war is over.
 

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Guess how many lives of the people of the
western allies were saved by the lend lease aid
to Soviet Union in WWII. And guess how many
lives in NATO nations will be spared by military
aids to Ukraine when the war is over.
And in both cases, oppressive invaders need to be defeated. Good comparison.
 
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oil&gas

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And in both cases, oppressive invaders need to be defeated. Good comparison.
In this case we have to be content with sending aids. To my knowledge
our military personnel were sent to the UK to train Ukrainian soldiers. We
would not put our own boys in harms way by sending them to land on the
soil of Ukraine let alone the front line. The oppressive invaders may need
to be defeated but no Putin haters here would want to be conscripted and
sent to defend Ukraine like other dumb fuck vodka kommandos willingly
fight for Putin.
 
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Leimonis

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Guess how many lives of the people of the
western allies were saved by the lend lease aid
to Soviet Union in WWII. And guess how many
lives in NATO nations will be spared by military
aids to Ukraine when the war is over.
If you’re trying to say that help to Ukraine is a very wise investment you’re preaching to the choir
 

oil&gas

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If you’re trying to say that help to Ukraine is a very wise investment you’re preaching to the choir
If you believe that help to Ukraine will result in saving lives
for the allies like the lend lease policy in WWII good for you.
Ignorance is bliss.
 
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richaceg

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The sad part about the Ukraine situation is that they're ontheir ow when it comes to fighting a Goliath that is Russia....weapons aide can only take them so far. I'm not sure if they have the numbers to hold their front....Russia isn't even throwing bodies at them anymore....they're just shelling targeted locations now and that's worst for civilians. They might need to give up land for this to be over....
 
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toguy5252

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In this case we have to be content with sending aids. To my knowledge
our military personnel were sent to the UK to train Ukrainian soldiers. We
would not put our own boys in harms way by sending them to land on the
soil of Ukraine let alone the front line. The oppressive invaders may need
to be defeated but no Putin haters here would want to be conscripted and
sent to defend Ukraine like other dumb fuck vodka kommandos willingly
fight for Putin.
It is more than just not wanting to put our people in harm's way. The US and it's NATO allies do not want to be seen as combatants which would inevitably lead to great and further reaching escalation.
 
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