The issue with deposits is a lack of trust.
If there is uncertainty, then even a little becomes a burden. Reason being, it's futile to keep paying money only to have it stolen from you.
Looks like the number of women requiring deposits is growing day by day
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If there is uncertainty, then even a little becomes a burden. Reason being, it's futile to keep paying money only to have it stolen from you.
The funny thing is that if he was to get caught with a SP in the room having sex the bank records would matter not as he was caught red handed.
What perplexes me is that some guys have no issue being recorded on video walking in and out of massage parlors, hanging out at the lobbies of massage parlors, but somehow an EMT is more incriminating than video surveillance footage.
On that note, massage parlors get raided way more often than escort agencies, and as far as independent ladies go, we cannot think of a single scenario in which an independent escort has been targeted by police to be raided.
Not to put words into your mouth, but it seems that you are equating discretion with anonymity. They are completely different things.
As you have seen in this very thread, there is guys who think that all women working in the industry are crazy and can't be trusted with personal information because of their inherent craziness. This is sexist, and it leads to all kinds of abusive behaviors.
Historically women have had to wait and fight hard to be treated fairly, and it's ironic that in the industry we are the most marginalized and looked down on. Not saying that to you but you can see how a few posts back a guy said women can't be trusted because they are all crazy. How do you feel about that?
Thank you for sharing your views of women in the industry, we are in agreement with you. Most of us are just honestly trying to provide a service in an ethical manner.
From where we stand, it seems that @explorerzip was basically telling you more or less the same thing. If the aim is not to be anonymous but to be discreet, then the most discreet option would be to not see escorts at all. How discreet is it to go into a massage parlor and have yourself videotaped? Again, not picking on you or saying that you did this but fleshing out the thought process and conversation.
Some men take great risk even surfing TERB at work directly going against employers. How is it discreet to browse TERB at work but not to send a girl a deposit?
Dude, if you are taking part in an illegal activity you really don’t want to leave a clear paper trail to your front door. I’m mean, if your connection for molly wanted an interact transfer, would you do that?
I totally get it that some don't want e-transfer records. Yet we are leaving behind many other breadcrumbs and some you don't have access to. Have you called or texted someone lately with a real phone and not an app? There's the message itself, a log on your device, your carrier, the recipient's device and their carrier. It's extremely easy to figure out who the phone number belongs to. If the agency or indy has any online ad (even if they retired) then Google can find it. Most carriers list all the numbers you called and texted and received in your statement.
Wait, you have a burner phone? It also has a call log on the device, your carrier and the recipients.
I don't know if it's possible to be anywhere close to totally discreet these days. At minimum, the agency / indy needs to text you to let you know when they are ready, the room number, door code, etc. Makes me wonder how the industry worked before cell phones became commonplace.
And I have no idea what you mean by molly.
The building management and security also see you. They know who you buzzed and if the door was opened. The enterphone system records everything.Also, when you're walking in to an incall, stop and punch in the access code and get buzzed in....hey dumbass, look up. The Booker sees you.
No point going back and forth. The OP has been found to be an undesirable client who is the exact type that make deposits necessary. He is the classic example of why and now that he has been revealed / poof he is gone and not making any more comments. Funny how that works.
All one has to do is look at his profile Page to see a bunch of ladies, dating back to 2012 (10 years) of wasting time with SPs. Last minute cancelations are not listed (although there is a thread just in September calling out his cancelation behaviour) but plenty of women saying trying to reply back to messages he sent for appointments.
You want someone to blame for the rise in deposit requests, look no further the OP.
All one has to do is look at his profile Page to see a bunch of ladies, dating back to 2012 (10 years) of wasting time with SPs. Last minute cancelations are not listed (although there is a thread just in September calling out his cancelation behaviour) but plenty of women saying trying to reply back to messages he sent for appointments.
You want someone to blame for the rise in deposit requests, look no further the OP.
It comes down to assessing the level of threat likely to be deployed against you. Most likely level of threat in this case is one of; SP texting you back looking for repeat business; Pimp threatening to dox you for money; Gang using your info for identity theft; or, police making casual inquiry as to why you were calling a hooker. Give any one of those threats your bank info or real number and you are in a hurt locker. Give them a burner phone number and cash and they have nothing to use against you. None of the threats listed either have, or are likely to waste the resources on, tracking a burner phone. If you are planning anything more nefarious than a quick assignation, then you can expect a much higher level of threat to be deployed against you. There are ways to mitigate/defeat that higher level of threat, but I’m not going to go into them because no one here should be making nefarious plans.
At the end of the day it's always the client's choice if they want to go see an sp that requires a deposit. If there not comfortable doing so there are thankfully plenty of options still out there of agencies/sp's that don't require any sort of deposit or verification that clients can still go and see and give there money too. It's that simple and doesn't need to be all that complicated. I have posted in the past that I personally don't like the trend that this industry is going in with sp's asking for deposits/verification but it's not my decision and they can ask for whatever they want but it is my choice whether I want to go see and give my money to that sp or agency. Fellas just need to take a step back and think with their big head and not their horny head lol about what they are comfortable with providing. It doesn't need to be a big deal. As long as their are options for everyone and deposits/verification doesn't become an industry standard I don't think clients have anything to complain about in this regard.
Even if deposits, verification, etc. became a standard then complaining won't solve much either. All industries evolve and escorting is no different. If it didn't evolve with the times it would not survive. I guess some guys think that things should not change. Rates should stay the same, shouldn't need deposits or verification, etc. On the other hand, if you recently started seeing SP's then you wouldn't know any better.
On my line of work, certain documentation is required and it is unbelievable how many will not provide it. All I have to say to them is too bad. But I love it when they get upset and say no one else needs what you are asking for. All I say is good luck. Like in the SP world, there are many different choices out there. Just use those who best serve your own needs. Like the industry I am
In, the independents and agencies who ask for deposits are not losing any sleep over those who don’t want to comply with their requirements. On the contrary, they probably sleep better knowing they may have dodged a bullet.
In, the independents and agencies who ask for deposits are not losing any sleep over those who don’t want to comply with their requirements. On the contrary, they probably sleep better knowing they may have dodged a bullet.
This is the worlds oldest profession. It always has and will survive no matter what.
It doesn't matter if it evolves...lol. They could stand on the street like in the 80's and 90's. It doesn't matter. It will survive no matter how it's done.
A bit off topic, the so-called World's Oldest Profession isn't quite accurate. The phrase was invented around the 1800's. There are lots of other professions that are much older
It's their business and their choice. But there is only one type of deposit I give to women of night.
And they will be horny enough if the entire industry went deposit and screening. Which would be evolving the industry. Just like the internet and tech did.
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