FS bareback aka BBFS was acceptable? Are we talking 20th or 19th century? And what exactly qualifies as a "freaky" bj to you?
Looks like the number of women requiring deposits is growing day by day
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To be clear, he edited his post. I was only referring to covered full service but you see the type we have to deal with. Pissy because BBFS is not the norm thanks apparently to forums like this.
Apparently, he and many others have trouble writing complete sentences too.To be clear, he edited his post. I was only referring to covered full service but you see the type we have to deal with. Pissy because BBFS is not the norm thanks apparently to forums like this.
That's very interesting because the reason we came upon this thread was because this client messaged us trying to become a verified client via private message.
When we asked him for his phone number to book, he said he doesn't want to give one. Only wants to book through private message or email... We explained that we still need a phone number to book appointments and we are unable to book with just an anonymous random email or equally random anonymous internet pseudonym.
Giving TERB members the benefit of the doubt, we asked him to provide us with two references from reputable advertisers with a working website. We felt the effort was merited since we are promising to verify people via TERB after all. We just never imagined that people would interpret "verified via terb," to mean "create a fake email and book." He then sends us a list of 8 names and tells us "here, do you need more?" Expecting us to call and chase any of these women to vouch for him. It is at this point that we realized this guy has no respect for us or seemingly any sex worker.
We appreciate the interaction because it will lead to important improvements to our FAQ like stating that there is no way anyone can book without a real phone number. We are sharing this anecdote because if what you are saying about this guy is true, he is a timewaster and is expecting us to start chasing girls to vouch for him. It would suck to go through all that trouble for a $160/30 minute session he would book. It would suck more if on the day of, he was to cancel.
Being in this industry for as many years as we have been, a thick skin has to be developed. We are able to differentiate between a regular client and a troll most of the time, and when we saw your message about the first born; we laughed and took it in good humor. We did so because after that comment you mentioned that you wished to see policies clearly outlined as to the process of being verified.
Now, that is a struggle for us because as you can see in this page, it is very time consuming to catch the "exceptions" to the rules in place. The truth is that 99% of the clients who go through with screening are safe and good clients. Not every client who wants to avoid screening is bad, but a substantial number of them are undesirable like @blackjackshelac
Members like @stedon may have wrong ideas about how profitable acquiring a client from TERB is. We think the reason for this, is because clients like @stedon compare other members to their own experiences of what they act like as a client. Not knowing the type of time wasting, risky abusive men and what they put girls through provides a veil of ignorance because you are probably thinking that all men behave the way that you do @stedon
Thank you for the compliments, and please know that you are welcome to book with us any time so long as you provide a verifiable mobile carrier number.
Regarding your bank statement, EMTs show up as random alphanumeric combinations on a line of text. We are working on creating a FAQ with pictures to put others at ease since you are not the only one to have this concern. Your bank statement will not show up who is the recipient of the EMT. Example:
E-Transfer ***ztW .... $90
Starting to think if I put some effort into building a national/international client blacklist site that providers could subscribe to for a fee I could probably make a fair bit of change. 
To bad I hate webdev so much and have the motivation of a potato. Well the idea is out there...
Maybe call it the sex work offenders registry
To bad I hate webdev so much and have the motivation of a potato. Well the idea is out there...
Maybe call it the sex work offenders registry
It's not a bad idea. Many of the newer sex workers entering the scene get taken advantage of because they don't have access to communal resources such as a industry wide blackilist. Every agency and almost every girl has their own list, and although communication exists between the sex workers, a lot of people don't participate.Starting to think if I put some effort into building a national/international client blacklist site that providers could subscribe to for a fee I could probably make a fair bit of change.
To bad I hate webdev so much and have the motivation of a potato. Well the idea is out there...
Maybe call it the sex work offenders registry
This is another reason we decided to ask for an EMT deposit for verification, to deter the abusive clients who have no trouble changing their phone number and using a new fake name after they have been blacklisted. It's a game for many of the abusive guys, to get blacklisted and come back again under a new name.
Complainers want to complain even though the same complaint has been complained about forever.
It is just outrageous that the person that started this complaining this time is one of the reason we have to screen in the first place. Comes here acting like he is some decent guy and yet he is not.
The common theme seems to be that the SO might dig further into the e-transfer details or paper statements. The bigger question is what's the reason for the SO being suspicious that they would check the statements? The guy has likely been cagey for years maybe decades. It amazes me that some guys supposedly spend thousands or more per month on SPs. You're statistically more likely to get caught than if you only partake a few times a year. The more times you partake in a month, then the more likely you're going to get sloppy.
Even if you're single or divorced, how can guys justify spending thousands or more a month? Are there no other places to spend money?
The risks involved are not symmetrical. Sex workers face a whole raft of dangers: Hidden recordings, stalking, stealthing, rape, robbery, battery, murder. There are few men that fully appreciates having to constantly regulate and negotiate the behaviour of others for their safety. It's only rational for SWs to take measures to protect themselves.
There are also some risk involved for clients. There are bad actors. Escorts can act unpredictably. But at the end of the day, I can do some digging and find escorts where I am reasonably sure that they have done hundreds, if not thousands, of transactions. These are working class people out making a living, not people out committing serious crimes like blackmail.
As for deposits, the truth is that clientele are unreliable and there are all kinds of assholes out yanking chains, requiring a deposit is a tactical decision. It's all too common for SWs to spend time getting ready, heading out to their incall, only for the client to not show up. Would you tour to another part of the country if you expected half your bookings to cancel or not show up?
There are still all kinds of options available to clients, including SWs and businesses that take on risk by not vetting people or asking for deposits. Yet entitled clients never seem to stop whining anyway.
There are also some risk involved for clients. There are bad actors. Escorts can act unpredictably. But at the end of the day, I can do some digging and find escorts where I am reasonably sure that they have done hundreds, if not thousands, of transactions. These are working class people out making a living, not people out committing serious crimes like blackmail.
As for deposits, the truth is that clientele are unreliable and there are all kinds of assholes out yanking chains, requiring a deposit is a tactical decision. It's all too common for SWs to spend time getting ready, heading out to their incall, only for the client to not show up. Would you tour to another part of the country if you expected half your bookings to cancel or not show up?
There are still all kinds of options available to clients, including SWs and businesses that take on risk by not vetting people or asking for deposits. Yet entitled clients never seem to stop whining anyway.
It sounds like you're concerned about LE digging into your bank statements. The same question applies though. Why is LE suspicious of you that they are digging into your bank statements? If they are willing to take those steps, then they are likely monitoring you for other things too. I would think they would need a legal reason to be digging into your statements to begin with. I would also think they would need to prove that something illegal happened between you and an indy or agency. I could be wrong, but an e-transfer to an indy or agency likely doesn't prove anything illegal happened. If they had proof or illegality then you're probably being closely monitored for other things.
Even if you stick with cash transactions only, there is still a record of you withdrawing the funds from the ATM or teller. For those guys that supposedly spend thousands or more on SP's in a month, how do you explain the cash outs from the account?
Because if he gets busted with an escort, his bank records could possibly be used against him as evidence. Not that he is worried about cops randomly looking into him.
It isn't a "big deal" to me. Is it ok that I reply to your comments with mine? So what IF I'm suggesting that you're supposedly fearful?
It all goes back to the same point that has been discussed over and over and over and over again. If screening and deposits or some other method of verification is uncomfortable then go elsewhere. I think you get that.
There's always a possibility or risk that bank records can be used against guys as evidence. The same thing goes for withdrawing large or even many small amounts of cash, email, text records, GPS records on your phone and your web browsing history. You can delete some of that information, but there's always a record of it somewhere. It's near impossible not to leave some sort of paper trail these days.
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