Answer the question will you condemn hamas?
Read the charter where it advocates the destruction of Israel and jews
In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism
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Answer the question will you condemn hamas?
Read the charter where it advocates the destruction of Israel and jews
Hamas definitely needs to be condemned. So do the zionists. Now that I have condemned Hamas, will YOU condemn the Zionists?
You should check them because there never was an offer by Abbas and you have never addressed Abbas refusing to respond to Olmert's offer. All you do is make excuses for terrorism committed by Palestinian factions and make excuses for Palestinians who reject the concept of living in peace.
And your 'both sides' argument is pure bullshit considering how many times you referred to Hamas rockets as self defence and how many times you've tried to excuse Hamas etc. attacks on Jewish civilians the same way complaining that Jewish civilians in the West Bank are military targets (while pretending to promote equal rights). And that whole thing about wanting to force Palestinians to become Israeli.
While we're talking international law, there is nothing wrong with targeting military and active combatants, even if civilians sometimes get killed along the way. Meanwhile even your own sources say Gaza rockets are explicitly war crimes because they are indiscriminate.
Finally, you are anti-semitic when you claim it's okay to target random non-Israeli Jews for criticism of a country they aren't a part of.
what is there to condemn?
Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת Tsiyyonut [tsijoˈnut] after Zion) is a nationalist[fn 1] movement that espouses the establishment of, and support for a homeland for the Jewish people centered in the area roughly corresponding to what is known in Jewish tradition as the Land of Israel, which corresponds in other terms to the region of Palestine, Canaan, or the Holy Land, on the basis of a long Jewish connection and attachment to that land.[3][4][5
So you choose not to respond to my post and then post shit like this.
Hamas is a terrorist group because they use terrorism to further their political goal of a Palestine free of Jews. Zionism is simply the belief in self-determination for the 7 million Jews living there. No surprise that you complain it is racist to criticize Iran as authoritarian but claim being Jewish in "Palestinian" land is equivalent to terrorism.
Except for people espousing hatred, there is no reason why both Jewish Israelis and Palestinians can't have self-determination.
Read them.
The Palestine Papers - Aljazeera Investigations
transparency.aljazeera.net
Funny how when the occupying power uses indiscriminate weapons like artillery and tank fire on Gaza you say its 'self defence' but when the occupied people use indiscriminate weapons you say its 'terrorism'.
Same way you refuse to admit that when Israel targets schools, hospitals, apartments, ambulances and medics you say that is 'self defence' and not 'terrorism'.
Israel is the occupying power, they do not get to claim self defence when they are still colonizing what could have been Palestine.
Same as Israeli artillery and tank fire. Why do you say its ok when Israel does it?
I say investigate them both.
You say its ok when Israel does it so only investigate Hamas.
I have never said anything about targeting random anybody.
Stop lying.
I don’t need to answer the question I’m just delighted and feel elated at the outpouring support that the Palestinian people are receiving from every corner of the globe.
You don’t like that? Well that’s too bad for you!
That is why I am condemning Hamas. However even though the actual definition of Zionism may be "self determination", it doesn't manifest that way. Zionism in practice disenfranchises, isolates and brutalizes Arabs and therefore it amounts to Jewish fundamentalism aka state terrorism. This further spurs terrorist actions from Hamas in response, which Israel uses as a reason to further oppress the Arabs.
Its a never ending cycle.
Both these guys are racist fucks and deserve each other in a way.
Agreed. A 2 state solution is best. But given how racist Israelis and Palestinians are, and how selfish both authorities are, I dont see a quick solution.
Great. What about the palestinians?
You need to condemn how the state of Israel uses brutal and inhumane ways to keep the palestinians down, which amounts to state terrorism.
Otherwise your arguments and your position is morally deficient.
The “Palestinian” people was invented in 1964 by Nasser, Arafat and the KGB. But already in the twenties and thirties, the first leader of Arabs living in the region of “Palestine”, was a Nazi and a Jew hater.
Check the facts. “We needed to instill a Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon of the emotions into a terrorist bloodbath against Israel and its main supporter, the United States.” — Yuri Andropov, Chairman of the Soviet KGB, later General Secretary of the Soviet Communist Party, as reported by General Ion Pacepa, former chief of Romania’s intelligence services.
“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle
against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality
today there is no difference between Jordanians,
Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and
tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand
that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian
people’ to oppose Zionism.
“For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa.
While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa,
Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we
reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even
a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”
(PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977
interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw.)
Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad speaking on Al-Hekma TV said in March 2012: “Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis. Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians…”
This is racist revisionism. What better way to deny people their rights to the land than deny their existence.
did you even bother to watch the video? here are more quores from Arab Leaders
King Abdullah in 1948: “Palestine and Jordan are one…”
Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly on February 2, 1970: “Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate”.
Abdul Hamid Sharif, Prime Minister of Jordan in 1980: “The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.”
King Hussein in 1981: “The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.”
Distinguished Arab-American Princeton University historian Philip Hitti testified before the Anglo-American Committee, “There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ in history.”
On September 12, 1993, the day that Yasir Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles (a.k.a. Oslo Accords), he explained his actions on Jordan TV as follows:
Hamas interior minister, Fathi Hamad, Tells the Egyptian television the truth: Half of Palestinians came from Egypt and the other half from Saudi Arabia,
You talk more about Hamas than Hamas does about themselves lol
Anyways you need to relax, don’t get your blood pressure up, the world isn’t siding with the Zionists anymore, the truth at some point will prevail, whether you like it or not
Also do us all a favour and change your name to Strawman Canada because that’s all you’ve done since this thread has started.
your refusal to condemn hamas means you support themYou talk more about Hamas than Hamas does about themselves lol
Anyways you need to relax, don’t get your blood pressure up, the world isn’t siding with the Zionists anymore, the truth at some point will prevail, whether you like it or not
Also do us all a favour and change your name to Strawman Canada because that’s all you’ve done since this thread has started.
Yeah good job with the propaganda. Cherry picking a few quotes out of context. Secondly, there is absolutely nothing wrong if the concept of Palestine originated later on and gained traction.
If Israel can be created out of nothing, in 1948 with primarily European Jews whose ancestry can be traced to EU, based on some 2000 year old history, then Palestinians who have lived there for generations can very much claim a State of Palestine.
what part of the video is wrong?
Hamas minister admitted this
Israel : Hamas Interior Minister admits Palestinians are not from Israel (Apr 02, 2012)
What is there to condemn?
The claim they have rights to Palestine.
Why do you totally ignore the rights of the native population?
And for bonus we have 'cultural genocide' where CM tries to imagine away an entire people.
Likely he says they are all from Palestine.
'Free Palestine', you know.....
And if you, like basketcase, think they don't have to give Palestine back then you'll have to live with BDS and the eventual end of apartheid. Peacefully, hopefully.
