Teachers strike/walkout/protest
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How about building in some accountability instead of the drama?
If we are REALLY talking about improving education and the professional environment for teachers, we need to start rewarding the good teachers for what they do above and beyond the norm and stop rewarding those who do the minimum standard and pay them accordingly.
Base the pay on two criteria. General and Specific
General to all teachers
Every July, review the stats across the province, or the board (There's always someone who has a problem with either metric)
-Math Scores
-Reading Scores
-Volunteer hours by students
-transition to trades, to college, to STEM, to medicine
Specific to the teacher
-How many sick days did you take or not take?
-How many students passed ? How many failed? (This will require a transition back to holding students back)
-Did you do an professional development in the summer?
-Did you work in after class work ( sports coach, club advisor, remedial work)
This will give every teacher a unique pay profile based on what they contribute to the development of society and education.
While we're at it, do the same for politicians.
If we are REALLY talking about improving education and the professional environment for teachers, we need to start rewarding the good teachers for what they do above and beyond the norm and stop rewarding those who do the minimum standard and pay them accordingly.
Base the pay on two criteria. General and Specific
General to all teachers
Every July, review the stats across the province, or the board (There's always someone who has a problem with either metric)
-Math Scores
-Reading Scores
-Volunteer hours by students
-transition to trades, to college, to STEM, to medicine
Specific to the teacher
-How many sick days did you take or not take?
-How many students passed ? How many failed? (This will require a transition back to holding students back)
-Did you do an professional development in the summer?
-Did you work in after class work ( sports coach, club advisor, remedial work)
This will give every teacher a unique pay profile based on what they contribute to the development of society and education.
While we're at it, do the same for politicians.
Yes, the problem is that they should know this.
We should post that educational support workers will never be given a living wage ever, so they should just find other employment.
Let the kids rot, there are taxes that need saving.
Ah yes sounds like @JohnLarue is an advocate for the communism approach like Cuba
No
they are rejecting a ridiculous demand which the province simply cannot afford
Bob Rea handed far too much power to public sector unions in the 1990s
the impact on Ont debt burden should be clear even to you
or the unions will have to start becoming reasonable & responsible
responsible to more than their members greed, this includes responsible to all vested parties, the students, their parents and taxpayers
you cannot have co-operation when the counterparty's position is irrational and completely ignores the need for financial responsibility
you cannot have co-operation when the counterparty's position is entirely based on threats and extortion
Too funny
1. Europe is a financial basket case
2. No company would survive running continuous deficits the way Ontario has
3. No company would survive with the debt burden Ontario has
So your logic would have unelected union representatives managing public sector finance decisions and planning
Do you want to accelerate the inevitable insolvency of the provincial government and the collapse of the heath care and education system?
do not lose sight of the fact parasites also die when they kill the host
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EI is capped at 2k per month. Barely a living monthly wage with rent or mtg at today's rates.
you & frankfooer appear to be of one mind on this issue
the only question is who has the one mind right now ?
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you do not seem to follow along too well
if you offer to pay a doctor $39,000 / year, they will laugh at you and take their skill set elsewhere & they cannot be replaced
replacing a janitor with no skill sets ?
Lots of people would be willing to fill those positions with the very generous current compensation package
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politicians unfortunately set their own compensation - let us know when you have applied your genius thinking to solving that issue
You obviously have no experience running companies.No
they are rejecting a ridiculous demand which the province simply cannot afford
Bob Rea handed far too much power to public sector unions in the 1990s
the impact on Ont debt burden should be clear even to you
or the unions will have to start becoming reasonable & responsible
you cannot have co-operation when the counterparty's position is irrational and completely ignores the need for financial responsibility
you cannot have co-operation when the counterparty's position is entirely based on threats and extortion
Too funny
1. Europe is a financial basket case
2. No company would survive running continuous deficits the way Ontario has
3. No company would survive with the debt burden Ontario has
So your logic would have unelected union representatives managing public sector finance decisions and planning
Do you want to accelerate the inevitable insolvency of the provincial government and the collapse of the heath care and education system?
Good luck with having a war with your employees.
You're saying you want all the education support workers with skills and training to find other jobs?
your two juvenile hypothetical statements have conflicting and incompatible logic
if I am not running a company, >>>> I do not have employees
logic is not your strong suit
you obviously have no experience managing anything successful,
look
employers have to offer competitive compensation to retain employees who provide value or they will seek employment elsewhere
successful companies understand this and reward employees according to ensure they stay
compensation is tied to merit and accomplishment
the financial stability of the organization is ensured for the owners, their customers, suppliers , the employees and future employees
inject a union (particularly a public sector union) into the equation and the financial stability of the organization is ignored
public sector unions do not consider the interests of the other parties>> only their own interests
They are bleeding the province dry
best they ungrade their skill set so they can command more compensation
the taxpayer does not owe anyone a specific standard of living
They exist, occupy time and space and now even gravity to be staunchly anti-union because their one and only constituent is NOT the people of Ontario, but private business and especially property developers.
You just continue to show that you do not have a clue about how the world works.
I think the construction trades are quite happy with efforts to increase housing builds. Have you tried getting contractors out to your house for repairs? I had work done a month ago, they didn't finish it. But I haven't paid a dime out. Still waiting for the finish.
