How did we get here

danmand

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How did we get to the point where the only media show that tells the truth is Tucker Carlson?
 
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danmand

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How did you get from being mostly left wing, anti-war to supporting the 'great replacement' Carlson?
How do you now see Tucker as the 'truth'?

Did you buy a ball tanning gizmo or something?
I am not posting any support for Tucker Carlson. I see him telling the truth:
 
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How did you get from being mostly left wing, anti-war to supporting the 'great replacement' Carlson?
How do you now see Tucker as the 'truth'?

Did you buy a ball tanning gizmo or something?
Tucker >>> CNN crew...but knowing you...you'd probably buy anything Don Lemon sells...
 

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I am not posting any support for Tucker Carlson. I see him telling the truth:
Saying that Tucker is telling the truth is supporting him.
Its also just wrong.

There is no solid evidence incriminating anyone at this point.
Its all just conjecture so calling anybody's opinion 'the truth' is nonsense.

I think its more likely that Putin did it to spite Germany and the EU, but that's my opinion.
You are free to think Biden did it to piss off Germany if you like, but its not 'the truth', its an opinion.
 

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Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s dubious allegation that the United States sabotaged a natural gas pipeline between Russia and Germany as part of a sinister “escalation” of Russia’s war with Ukraine echoed the Kremlin’s own propagandists. Carlson’s report is now getting substantial attention from Russian state TV, which is promoting his theory — and his suggestion for how Russia could strike back at U.S. interests in light of the supposed attack.
On Monday, “two powerful underwater explosions” damaged the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines. While the former had been shut down by Russia in August and the latter never became operational, both contained pressurized gas which is now leaking into the Baltic Sea. The international consensus is that the pipelines were sabotaged, with U.S. and European Union officials suggesting Russia is behind the explosions.
But the Kremlin, in turn, is suggesting that the U.S. sabotaged the pipelines, latching on to a since-deleted Tuesday tweet from Radek Sikorski, a Polish E.U. parliamentarian, which stated, “Thank you, USA,” alongside a photo of the leak. On social media, a Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson immediately questioned whether Sikorski’s tweet was an “official statement that this was a terrorist attack,” while another Russian official likewise thanked Sikorski for “making it crystal clear who stands behind this terrorist-style targeting of civilian infrastructure!” Russian state media outlet RT quickly amplified their theorizing under the headline “U.S. praised for Nord Stream explosion.”
Carlson’s coverage of the crisis created by Russia’s February invasion of Ukraine generally aligns with the Kremlin’s preferred narratives, to the point where Russian state media outlets, following their government’s explicit instructions, regularly airclips from his program.
That is what happened following the apparent sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines.
Just hours after Russian officials floated the narrative that the U.S. was responsible for damaging the pipelines, Carlson adopted it as his own.
Describing the ruptures as an “act of industrial terrorism,” Carlson quickly dispatched with the notion that Russia or its dictator, Vladimir Putin, might be involved. According to Carlson, Putin “would not do that” and would have to be “a suicidal moron to blow up your own energy pipeline.”
Instead, Carlson strongly suggested that the U.S. had sabotaged the pipelines. “If they did this, this will be one of the craziest, most destructive things any American administration has ever done,” he said. “But it would also be totally consistent with what they do. What do they do? They destroy.”
Carlson’s comically weak case revolved around two main pieces of evidence – Sikorski’s tweet, and a February statement from President Joe Biden that if Russia were to invade Ukraine, “there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” That seems to very obviously reference what happened after Russia invaded – Germany froze the pipeline project, which has yet to become operational. But in Carlson’s typically dishonest translation, Biden “said ‘there won't be a Nord Stream 2. We'll put an end to it. Will take it out. Will blow it up.’”
On that scanty evidence, Carlson suggested that the U.S. had blown up an ally’s energy infrastructure. While on-screen text stated “Today’s escalation will have huge consequences,” Carlson asserted that “we've entered a new phase, one in which the United States is directly at war with the largest nuclear power in the world.” He added: “If we actually blew up the Nord Stream pipelines, why wouldn't Russia sever undersea internet cables? What would happen if they did that?"

It was inevitable that Carlson’s theory would spread through the right-wing media, given his influential role in that ecosystem. But it isn’t just the likes of Charlie Kirkrushing to follow him in blaming America.

Carlson’s monologue “entered heavy rotation” on Russian state TV, as The Washington Post’s Philip Bump noted on Thursday. Bump highlighted 12 different times that Russia’s Channel One, Russia1, and Russia24 networks had aired clips of Carlson highlighting his theory.

Julia Davis, a Russian media monitor and Daily Beast columnist, compiled and translated some of the segments. She noted that the Russian commentators seemed particularly interested in Carlson’s suggestion for how their state might retaliate for the supposed U.S. attack.

 
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The Greenwald dude mentioned about the war in Afghanistan. But when Biden withdrew the troops from there, all we hear is the condemnation for doing so.
Do and you are damned, do not do and you are still damned........ right wing logic!!
I am quite certain that they will play this interview on Putin-Russia Media. He seems to reverberate the Putin myth that the "majority" in the Donbas region want to be part of Russia after the biggest scam of a referendum. WOW, where are these right wing nutcases heading??
 

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How did we get to the point where the only media show that tells the truth is Tucker Carlson?
I really hope this was intended as humor in which case it is pretty funny. If not you need to adjust your meds.
 

danmand

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You used to be antiwar.
I do not keep track of your or anybody else's historic posts. I only know that at this moment you posts are encouraging war.

 
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