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Populism On The Rise In Canada As "Unelectable" Pierre Poilievre Sweeps Conservative Leadership

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Here's what Nanos thinks Poilievre's strategy is now that he's the Conservative leader


My prediction he will beat PM Justin Trudeau on the next election and become the next PM of Canada. Finally a conservative leader who effective on communication the right message to CanadIan and to especially to Quebecer ( Québécois).
 
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What you truly understand does not fill a dixie cup

Your very strange diatribe , while entertaining as comic relief does not reflect the political landscape

Calling Pierre Poilievre dumb, in one sentence while hoping Justin does not stupidly self inflict any additional wounds in the next sentence highlights how out of touch you are

Pierre Poilievre is no ones fool
Justin Trudeau is everyone's fool

Justin the fool has created inflation via foolish and uncontrolled govt spending & stunningly stupid energy policies
Inflation is political kryptonite for the incumbent, always has been, always will be
I have never in my life seen someone so out of touch with reality.

It was not Justin Trudeau who shut down the Countries economy entirely (save for Walmart). It was Provincial PM’s including Doug Ford.

And it’s not even the spending that solely created the inflation… (which the Conservatives in power fully supported)

You see John, economies are complicated things, with many levers. Canada was going to get some level of inflation regardless. Real Estate had gone through the stratosphere. And who does Real Estate pricing affect? Everyone. Not a single person not affected.

New home Prices have trended upwards in the major cities for decades. Then, Major city investors started quietly buying up the smaller town plaza’s and malls. Drains all the money from those towns. It’s a form of wealth transfer.

And as most of us know… when residential goes up, so does commercial. Retailers have higher rents/mortgages. Supplies have higher property costs. Manufacturers have higher costs, and a lot of them tend to go off shore…. Higher real estate has a devastating effect on the economy, inflating costs at every level. Eventually, prices have to go up.

I have heard it argued back at me that not every store or manufacturer has a new build, so my theory does not hold water. However, let’s look at actual numbers. Rents on brand new build town homes are obviously more expensive right? Already owning a war time house is obviously less expensive than buying a new unit at $1.5 milllion (example)…. Ahhh. But the real estate industrial complex made a term called “market value” that justifies the old timer who bought a house in 1950 for $50,000 to rent at the current rates…. Which is what is actually happening.

Bottom line…. Real Estate is the real reason. Yes, there are other factors. Many actually. Record corporate profits is another… yes, “Never waste a good crisis” price gouging. (We call that corporate greed).

Now, many crayon economists like to blame Trudeau for borrowing, all while telling us Harper was justified because of the 2008 financial crisis. Know anyone like that? I kinda do.

And “Inflating the money supply” alone is not inflation. You have to inflate it beyond what is necessary. That creates the extra money competing for goods and services, driving up prices. Well, where is this extra money. It isn’t anyone at the grocery stores, or looking to rent an apt, or going out to a family restaurant. Most people are getting kicked in the ass right now. There is no extra money competing. It went back to the bankers. The way it was designed to do.

Now, run along…
 

james t kirk

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If the liberals want to win the next election, they need to jettison Justin Trudeau and put someone in the big chair with some brains for change. And that someone is definitely NOT Christia Freeland (the bobblehead.). It's as simple as that.

Because Skippy is going to eat Mr. Dressup alive.

Unlike Sheer or Erin O'Toole, Skippy is coming on real strong right out of the gate and he doesn't take any prisoners. I knew PP's name after the WE Scandal because he was just not going to relent on it. He took Justin to task. Contrast this to Erin O'Toole. I could not even remember his name until the election. He was like the Invisible Man prior to the election. You knew he was there, but you weren't quite sure about it. (And I thought that O'Toole was a pretty good guy during the election, but he started from a position of weakness and although he made up ground, he could not afford a single fuckup and he made two (guns and Kenney.)

PP is going to enter the next election from a position strength because people have started to realize that Justin is a dummy and a lazy pretty boy. PP will be able to afford a couple of fuckups during the election and still win. I fully expect PP to just continue for the next 2 years to constantly and mercilessly attack Justin Trudeau at every turn basically wearing Trudeau down to a nub.
 

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If the liberals want to win the next election, they need to jettison Justin Trudeau and put someone in the big chair with some brains for change. And that someone is definitely NOT Christia Freeland (the bobblehead.). It's as simple as that.

Because Skippy is going to eat Mr. Dressup alive.

Unlike Sheer or Erin O'Toole, Skippy is coming on real strong right out of the gate and he doesn't take any prisoners. I knew PP's name after the WE Scandal because he was just not going to relent on it. He took Justin to task. Contrast this to Erin O'Toole. I could not even remember his name until the election. He was like the Invisible Man prior to the election. You knew he was there, but you weren't quite sure about it. (And I thought that O'Toole was a pretty good guy during the election, but he started from a position of weakness and although he made up ground, he could not afford a single fuckup and he made two (guns and Kenney.)

PP is going to enter the next election from a position strength because people have started to realize that Justin is a dummy and a lazy pretty boy. PP will be able to afford a couple of fuckups during the election and still win. I fully expect PP to just continue for the next 2 years to constantly and mercilessly attack Justin Trudeau at every turn basically wearing Trudeau down to a nub.
PP has already split the conservative vote for JT.

Are you a whining 'freedumb' con or a big tent con?
If you don't back bitcoin and whining about trying to control a pandemic you may not be so happy about destroying the CBC (which remains popular despite what the cons think), messing with the banking system (the way Harper deregulated before 2008) and not cheating the system to gain power (see Brown and his disqualification)
 

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I have never in my life seen someone so out of touch with reality.

yes Justin has no clue about the realities of economics or the realities of how devastating inflation is for Canadians

It was not Justin Trudeau who shut down the Countries economy entirely (save for Walmart). It was Provincial PM’s including Doug Ford.

And it’s not even the spending that solely created the inflation… (which the Conservatives in power fully supported)
Justin spending spree started the day he took office
You are on glue if you think conservatives support his ongoing spending

You see John, economies are complicated things, with many levers. Canada was going to get some level of inflation regardless. Real Estate had gone through the stratosphere. And who does Real Estate pricing affect? Everyone. Not a single person not affected.
Asset bubbles are caused by too much printed money

New home Prices have trended upwards in the major cities for decades. Then, Major city investors started quietly buying up the smaller town plaza’s and malls. Drains all the money from those towns. It’s a form of wealth transfer.
Asset bubbles are caused by too much printed money


And as most of us know… when residential goes up, so does commercial. Retailers have higher rents/mortgages. Supplies have higher property costs. Manufacturers have higher costs, and a lot of them tend to go off shore…. Higher real estate has a devastating effect on the economy, inflating costs at every level. Eventually, prices have to go up.

I have heard it argued back at me that not every store or manufacturer has a new build, so my theory does not hold water. However, let’s look at actual numbers. Rents on brand new build town homes are obviously more expensive right? Already owning a war time house is obviously less expensive than buying a new unit at $1.5 milllion (example)…. Ahhh. But the real estate industrial complex made a term called “market value” that justifies the old timer who bought a house in 1950 for $50,000 to rent at the current rates…. Which is what is actually happening.
Asset bubbles are caused by too much printed money


Bottom line…. Real Estate is the real reason. Yes, there are other factors. Many actually. Record corporate profits is another… yes, “Never waste a good crisis” price gouging. (We call that corporate greed).
Asset bubbles are caused by too much printed money

Now, many crayon economists like to blame Trudeau for borrowing, all while telling us Harper was justified because of the 2008 financial crisis. Know anyone like that? I kinda do.
Steven Harper spent what he needed to and then turned the taps off
He had a plan to get back to budget and implemented it

Justins plan?
The budget will balance itself


And “Inflating the money supply” alone is not inflation. You have to inflate it beyond what is necessary
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Any school kid can tell you Justion borrowings were well beyond what was necessary

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He spent more than any other G7 leader as a % of GDP


That creates the extra money competing for goods and services, driving up prices. Well, where is this extra money. It isn’t anyone at the grocery stores, or looking to rent an apt, or going out to a family restaurant. Most people are getting kicked in the ass right now. There is no extra money competing. It went back to the bankers. The way it was designed to do.
I bet you think Bankers lent Justion Trudeau half a trillion dollars ?
Ha Ha


FYI the incremental annual interest cost on the govt debt since the spring is $40 B due to higher rates

You completely avoided the unbelievably inflationary carbon tax
FYI Canadians are going to get hit with higher payroll taxes, higher carbon taxes and a hidden Canadian Fuel Standards tax in 2023
All while Canadians are experiencing non avoidable inflation not seen in a generation

The Bank of Canada is not done raising rates and the Moron Justin Trudeau policies will be working against the BoC inflation policies
That is a recipe for disaster

I hope you finally learn something
 

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yes Justin has no clue about the realities of economics or the realities of how devastating inflation is for Canadians



Justin spending spree started the day he took office
You are on glue if you think conservatives support his ongoing spending



Asset bubbles are caused by too much printed money



Asset bubbles are caused by too much printed money




Asset bubbles are caused by too much printed money




Asset bubbles are caused by too much printed money



Steven Harper spent what he needed to and then turned the taps off
He had a plan to get back to budget and implemented it

Justins plan?
The budget will balance itself


.
Any school kid can tell you Justion borrowings were well beyond what was necessary

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He spent more than any other G7 leader as a % of GDP



I bet you think Bankers lent Justion Trudeau half a trillion dollars ?
Ha Ha


FYI the incremental annual interest cost on the govt debt since the spring is $40 B due to higher rates

You completely avoided the unbelievably inflationary carbon tax
FYI Canadians are going to get hit with higher payroll taxes, higher carbon taxes and a hidden Canadian Fuel Standards tax in 2023
All while Canadians are experiencing non avoidable inflation not seen in a generation

The Bank of Canada is not done raising rates and the Moron Justin Trudeau policies will be working against the BoC inflation policies
That is a recipe for disaster

I hope you finally learn something
Hope I have learned something? I have always known you were an idiot… so no.

The housing asset bubble was well before Trudeau took office. How you ignore that is amazing.
 

mandrill

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If the liberals want to win the next election, they need to jettison Justin Trudeau and put someone in the big chair with some brains for change. And that someone is definitely NOT Christia Freeland (the bobblehead.). It's as simple as that.
Because Skippy is going to eat Mr. Dressup alive.
Unlike Sheer or Erin O'Toole, Skippy is coming on real strong right out of the gate and he doesn't take any prisoners. I knew PP's name after the WE Scandal because he was just not going to relent on it. He took Justin to task. Contrast this to Erin O'Toole. I could not even remember his name until the election. He was like the Invisible Man prior to the election. You knew he was there, but you weren't quite sure about it. (And I thought that O'Toole was a pretty good guy during the election, but he started from a position of weakness and although he made up ground, he could not afford a single fuckup and he made two (guns and Kenney.)
PP is going to enter the next election from a position strength because people have started to realize that Justin is a dummy and a lazy pretty boy. PP will be able to afford a couple of fuckups during the election and still win. I fully expect PP to just continue for the next 2 years to constantly and mercilessly attack Justin Trudeau at every turn basically wearing Trudeau down to a nub.
James, everybody's known for years that Justin is dumb and silly. They vote for him because they realize that the current CPC is made up of people like PP. Most of Canada is going to hate PP.

PP's attacks will be crude and stupid because PP aims at people like the Trukkkers and unless he smartens up and raises his game, most people in Canada are not anti vaxx assholes who block the Peace Bridge. I would have voted for O' Toole last year because I think he'd make a better PM than Justin. Why did I still vote Grit?.... Because I figured shitheads like PP would have castrated EOT or else deposed him as soon as he was elected. I voted for the Liberal Party because the CPC are assholes.

PP will give Justin a 4th election win.
 

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James, everybody's known for years that Justin is dumb and silly. They vote for him because they realize that the current CPC is made up of people like PP. Most of Canada is going to hate PP.

PP's attacks will be crude and stupid because PP aims at people like the Trukkkers and unless he smartens up and raises his game, most people in Canada are not anti vaxx assholes who block the Peace Bridge. I would have voted for O' Toole last year because I think he'd make a better PM than Justin. Why did I still vote Grit?.... Because I figured shitheads like PP would have castrated EOT or else deposed him as soon as he was elected. I voted for the Liberal Party because the CPC are assholes.

PP will give Justin a 4th election win.
While I will agree on what PP is…. He is also an effective communicator. He now gets the benefits of the Party officially helping craft the message. It will continue to be formulated, aimed at the avg Canadian. He will point out groceries have gone, blame Justin personally…. Then in the next message say he can fix the Canadian economy by defunding this and that saving us Billions.

Trudeau is an easy target to make an enemy out of. And Canadians somehow believe the sky is falling, when it’s not. Canada has one of the best economic outlooks of all the G20 nations. We are doing great.
 

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Hope I have learned something? I have always known you were an idiot… so no.
Insults like that could get a fool banned
You are fortunate I preferer not to rat fools out

The housing asset bubble was well before Trudeau took office. How you ignore that is amazing.

House prices in Canada provinces 2020 with forecast for 2022 | Statista
looks reasonable flat 2011 until 2015 ( A slight healthy trend upwards)
What happened in 2015 ? - We elected a moron

what you understand would not fill a dixie cup
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poker

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Insults like that could get a fool banned
You are fortunate I preferer not to rat fools out




House prices in Canada provinces 2020 with forecast for 2022 | Statista
looks reasonable flat 2011 until 2015 ( A slight healthy trend upwards)
What happened in 2015 ? - We elected a moron

what you understand would not fill a dixie cup
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I see you had to zoom in for specific numbers…. Lol. Typical.

I am going into the gym for an hour or 2, but once I am out I will be happy to post what everybody already knows.
 

poker

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Insults like that could get a fool banned
You are fortunate I preferer not to rat fools out




House prices in Canada provinces 2020 with forecast for 2022 | Statista
looks reasonable flat 2011 until 2015 ( A slight healthy trend upwards)
What happened in 2015 ? - We elected a moron

what you understand would not fill a dixie cup
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Well… looking at the longer trend, house prices started exploding much earlier…. But there was a crash. Now, you are arguing that Trudeau’s policies caused today’s bubble… so donO get to argue the Harpers policies aided the 2008 financial market meltdown?

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You are slippery. Some rube might actually think the info you posted was the whole story. I know better thankfully.
 

JohnLarue

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Well… looking at the longer trend, house prices started exploding much earlier…. But there was a crash. Now, you are arguing that Trudeau’s policies caused today’s bubble… so donO get to argue the Harpers policies aided the 2008 financial market meltdown?

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You are slippery. Some rube might actually think the info you posted was the whole story. I know better thankfully.

Too Funny

Like I said what you understand would not fill a dixie cup

You showed a graph of US housing prices to try and show Steven Harper is responsible for a Canadian housing price bubble

if you had a clue, you would have known right away that Canada housing did not experience a 60 to 80% correction in 2009 as your graph shows
But then you do not have a loose clue, do you?

Hell even the moron Justin Trudeau would not have made that mistake

S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller 20-City Composite Home Price NSA Index | S&P Dow Jones Indices (spglobal.com)
The S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller 20-City Composite Home Price NSA Index seeks to measures the value of residential real estate in 20 major U.S. metropolitan areas: Atlanta, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis, New York, Phoenix, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Tampa and Washington, D.C.


S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller U.S. National Home Price NSA Index | S&P Dow Jones Indices (spglobal.com)
The S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller U.S. National Home Price NSA Index is a composite of single-family home price indices for the nine U.S. Census divisions and is calculated monthly.

Seriously how old are you?
Does your mom know you visit this hooker site?
 
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poker

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Too Funny

Like I said what you understand would not fill a dixie cup

You showed a graph of US housing prices to try and show Steven Harper is responsible for Canadian housing price bubble



S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller 20-City Composite Home Price NSA Index | S&P Dow Jones Indices (spglobal.com)





Seriously how old are you?
Does your mom know you visit this hooker site?
Well, my mistake. Just got in the car when I started googling.

Can’t help but notice you still have not posted and prices before 2011 to actually disprove me…
 

poker

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Too Funny

Like I said what you understand would not fill a dixie cup

You showed a graph of US housing prices to try and show Steven Harper is responsible for Canadian housing price bubble



S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller 20-City Composite Home Price NSA Index | S&P Dow Jones Indices (spglobal.com)





Seriously how old are you?
Does your mom know you visit this hooker site?

and I debunk you once again…

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John…. This is called an Asset Bubble. It started long before Trudeau got in. That was never a secret. Surprised that is hill you chose to die on…. But we all know, if I post it, you have to say the exact opposite. That’s your nature.
 
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