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I find it hysterical that political support group will hold “freedom rallies”… and fly Canadian flags from their cars, and tell us what politicians are trying to take “their freedoms away”….

And then when somebody chooses to express a “freedom” they don’t agree with…

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I guess freedom is only red blooded beer drinkin white guys.
 
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NotADcotor

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This is retarded.
You should have the freedom to wear gigantic tits... but not on the job. Nobody complains about freedom because I can't wear nothing but a banana hammock while teaching kids or working for the department of finance. There is no oppression with having standards with employment... you are always free to take a different job. Likewise if one of the big accounting or ape law firms wants you to wear gigantic fake tits or nothing but a banana hammock for some bizarre reason, it's their circus and their monkeys, they have the freedom to have these standards and people have the right to seek other employment, likewise to hire those companies or go elsewhere.

Jeez what's next, you don't have freedom because you can't go to a playground and jerk off while wearing nothing but a gas mask and fur boots to use a Jon Lajoie reference. How about we just go all out and legalize sex with animals and children because muh freedoms.

However to answer your question ignoring your example.

Almost nobody does. Everyone is sex nuts, retard strong and hepped up on goofball for telling other people how to live. Smoke, weed, drink the demon alcohol, open a store on Sunday, pay for sex, ignore demands to use pronouns, claim that men can't be lesbians [which got someone a prison term in Norway apparently], very few people give a fuck about freedom, unless it impacts them, including vets who fought for our freedoms and not because it's a better job than McDs [true story] or for the pension, or for the adventure, or because everyone else is going or because...

Consider freedom of speech and how just about nobody on the left, right or center seems to think you should have freedom from speech, that your freedom of speech much like your freedom to swing your fist should rightfully stop at somebodies face. Your freedom to fuck does not mean I don't have the freedom not to fuck you.

Back to the original thing, so what you are saying is that somebody's rights to wear comically large tities overrides the parents freedom to not have their kids educated by some mentally ill narcissist who thinks nothing about sexualizing themselves in front of children Yanniv style. Sure bruh what ever.


And my more recent paragraphs are why it is an acceptable restriction on freedom to demand vaccines or confinement. Typhoid Mary's right to be a cunt is overridden by other's peoples right not to die of typhoid.

But again, most people don't give a fuck. Freedoms should be applied only to shit you want to do or don't care about. Then you get those people who seem to think that you don't have freedom unless you can go to a deli and do urine expulsion on the cheese [a 2 for 1 cultural expression]
 

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I guess the "red-blooded, beer drinking white guys" are capable of more nuance than the knee-jerk lefty tolerance crowd that decided to embrace this freak.
 

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I guess the "red-blooded, beer drinking white guys" are capable of more nuance than the knee-jerk lefty tolerance crowd that decided to embrace this freak.
I certainly don’t embrace this freak. He gives lefties a bad name. I just think it’s funny the righties are going off the deep end over it.
 

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I certainly don’t embrace this freak. He gives lefties a bad name. I just think it’s funny the righties are going off the deep end over it.
Considering how many teens watch Ru Paul, I'm sure they were probably just there offering better makeup tips.
 
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jcpro

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I certainly don’t embrace this freak. He gives lefties a bad name. I just think it’s funny the righties are going off the deep end over it.
See? My point exactly...except nobody is going off the deep end over it- just acknowledging the absurdity. On the other hand, the Canadian media are fully spooked and the Peel Board will not even touch it.
 

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See? My point exactly...except nobody is going off the deep end over it- just acknowledging the absurdity. On the other hand, the Canadian media are fully spooked and the Peel Board will not even touch it.
No… the PPC is organizing a protest. Why? “Her” shirt is dress code. So are her pants and skirt.

Why does the PPC supporters think they have a right to tell anyone how to live or dress at work?
 

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This is retarded.
You should have the freedom to wear gigantic tits... but not on the job. Nobody complains about freedom because I can't wear nothing but a banana hammock while teaching kids or working for the department of finance. There is no oppression with having standards with employment... you are always free to take a different job. Likewise if one of the big accounting or ape law firms wants you to wear gigantic fake tits or nothing but a banana hammock for some bizarre reason, it's their circus and their monkeys, they have the freedom to have these standards and people have the right to seek other employment, likewise to hire those companies or go elsewhere.
Jeez what's next, you don't have freedom because you can't go to a playground and jerk off while wearing nothing but a gas mask and fur boots to use a Jon Lajoie reference. How about we just go all out and legalize sex with animals and children because muh freedoms.
However to answer your question ignoring your example.
Almost nobody does. Everyone is sex nuts, retard strong and hepped up on goofball for telling other people how to live. Smoke, weed, drink the demon alcohol, open a store on Sunday, pay for sex, ignore demands to use pronouns, claim that men can't be lesbians [which got someone a prison term in Norway apparently], very few people give a fuck about freedom, unless it impacts them, including vets who fought for our freedoms and not because it's a better job than McDs [true story] or for the pension, or for the adventure, or because everyone else is going or because...
Consider freedom of speech and how just about nobody on the left, right or center seems to think you should have freedom from speech, that your freedom of speech much like your freedom to swing your fist should rightfully stop at somebodies face. Your freedom to fuck does not mean I don't have the freedom not to fuck you.
Back to the original thing, so what you are saying is that somebody's rights to wear comically large tities overrides the parents freedom to not have their kids educated by some mentally ill narcissist who thinks nothing about sexualizing themselves in front of children Yanniv style. Sure bruh what ever.
And my more recent paragraphs are why it is an acceptable restriction on freedom to demand vaccines or confinement. Typhoid Mary's right to be a cunt is overridden by other's peoples right not to die of typhoid.
But again, most people don't give a fuck. Freedoms should be applied only to shit you want to do or don't care about. Then you get those people who seem to think that you don't have freedom unless you can go to a deli and do urine expulsion on the cheese [a 2 for 1 cultural expression]
It occurred to that he was just trying to offset the higher cost of school lunches by offering the students free milk when they attend his class.

I mean "she".
 

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I guess the "red-blooded, beer drinking white guys" are capable of more nuance than the knee-jerk lefty tolerance crowd that decided to embrace this freak.
Funny, I though the word you were looking for was more hypocrisy.


But yes, we see it all the time; those who keep talking about free speech are simply whining that other people use their free speech to criticize them.
 

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I certainly don’t embrace this freak. He gives lefties a bad name. I just think it’s funny the righties are going off the deep end over it.
do you think it is wise to have this freak put his freak show on in front of impressionable children?
Independent of whatever subject he teaches, he will leave an impression on these kids and it will not be a good one.
 

NotADcotor

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But yes, we see it all the time; those who keep talking about free speech are simply whining that other people use their free speech to criticize them.
I find it vexing when "they" respond to any critism of der leader by crying Trump derangement syndrome or claiming he lives rent free in your heads.
However the left is even more so on trying to shut up people who disagree with them, calling them racists even when the woke crowd is being the racist, mocking white fragility to any complaints.

Strange women, lying in ponds, let it rot.

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The kitty has it right, be like the kitty.
 

basketcase

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I find it vexing when "they" respond to any critism of der leader by crying Trump derangement syndrome or claiming he lives rent free in your heads.
However the left is even more so on trying to shut up people who disagree with them, calling them racists even when the woke crowd is being the racist, mocking white fragility to any complaints.

Strange women, lying in ponds, let it rot.
The difference is left wing people I see complaining about what they see as hateful views aren't also spending their days pretending that only their right to free speech is essential. And yes, calling out someone as racist IS free speech. I only see one side trying to use the government to prevent views they don't like (CRT, Don't say Gay, etc).

As a specifically stupid example is when people complain about the "woke" mob "cancelling" things when in reality is pure capitalist ideas. People who don't like certain companies actions use their economic power to either support or avoid them and companies cater towards potential customers, not based on theoretical concepts but rather on what they think will best protect their bottom line.



More importantly, most people on the left and some on the right just get on with their lives trying to make things better for the people around them. It seems the mainstream right keeps fixating on what some fringe leftwing view, using statements from unheard of academics as 'proof' that anyone on the left side of the spectrum is insane.
 

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do you think it is wise to have this freak put his freak show on in front of impressionable children?
Independent of whatever subject he teaches, he will leave an impression on these kids and it will not be a good one.
If you think teens aren't able to identify the ridiculousness of the outfit, who do you think was taking those pics in the first place?
 

poker

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do you think it is wise to have this freak put his freak show on in front of impressionable children?
Independent of whatever subject he teaches, he will leave an impression on these kids and it will not be a good one.
Are you suggesting if a woman has big tits children would be adversely affected?

Or are you suggesting teenage boys will see this… and then decide “my goodness, so that’s how you do it!”… and go out and buy dresses because they were converted.

Or, are you suggesting that conservatives are snowflakes, and anything outside of there own social norms, well, get the torches and pitch forks… can’t have that.

Has anyone really been hurt?

Sometimes people are go overboard. Not a crime. Prosthetics… worn by cancer patients. Transitioning… fairly common now actually. I personally know people who have. Not a big deal anymore. Her shirt and pants are in dress code.
 

JohnLarue

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Are you suggesting if a woman has big tits children would be adversely affected?
Not as much when a man has big tits
That has got to be confusing as hell for a kid who should not be overly concerned about tits until puberty hits

Or are you suggesting teenage boys will see this… and then decide “my goodness, so that’s how you do it!”… and go out and buy dresses because they were converted.
no actually, they will most likely reject any idea of learning anything from a 'freak'
One needs to respect a teacher if you are going to learn from them

Or, are you suggesting that conservatives are snowflakes, and anything outside of there own social norms, well, get the torches and pitch forks… can’t have that.
The purpose of a school is to teach children, not as a platform for an attention seeking freakshow

Has anyone really been hurt?
Hard to say what the impact on developing young people might be
We might need to wait a generation to find out
 
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Not as much when a man has big tits
That has got to be confusing as hell for a kid who should not be overly concerned about tits until puberty hits



no actually, they will most likely reject any idea of learning anything from a 'freak'
One needs to respect a teacher if you are going to learn from them


The purpose of a school is to teach children, not as a platform for an attention seeking freakshow



Hard to say what the impact on developing young people might be
We might need to wait a generation to find out
I will agree, s** is an attention seeking freak show. But that a side, it’s not crime. Except for making an ass of h**self, there is no harm being done.

In all honesty, I am more concerned about the smart phones parents happily give their children. Studies have shown the avg kid has access to pornography at age 10. This particular study says between and 11 or 12… but I am not going to split hairs.

Now, if s** came to school with an AR-15, I’d have some concerns.


Where is the angry mob on this actual issue?
(Betting most beer drinking white conservatives love porn, so they don’t see it a big issue… besides, who would they blame?)
 

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What the fuck am I looking at? Is that idiot a shop teacher? Well if not allowing people to be subjected to this idiot (@NotADcotor described it best) then think about running one of those things through a saw. You dress for safety that includes hair cuts in some jobs. What a joke. Might as well encourage it, it's not going away.
 

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I am having trouble understanding why anyone is giving a shit about this.....
The right wingers need something get angry about.
Apparently Bohemian Rhapsody didn't work.
They just need something, anything they can yell about to avoid discussing trump.
 

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I will agree, s** is an attention seeking freak show. But that a side, it’s not crime. Except for making an ass of h**self, there is no harm being done.

In all honesty, I am more concerned about the smart phones parents happily give their children. Studies have shown the avg kid has access to pornography at age 10. This particular study says between and 11 or 12… but I am not going to split hairs.
you are more concerned about porn on smart phones, than a freak show teaching kids ?


Now, if s** came to school with an AR-15, I’d have some concerns.
yeah that would a draw a lot of attention for an attention seeking freak show.

Would you feel better if the AR-15 was a gigantic fake ?


Where is the angry mob on this actual issue? (Betting most beer drinking white conservatives love porn, so they don’t see it a big issue… besides, who would they blame?)
good luck controlling porn on the internet
did you not pay attention to the result of prohibition ?

you should have a say about an attention seeking freak show teaching your kid
 
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