If you haven't noticed housing prices have fallen most places all across Ontario and Canada the last few months, except Toronto where condo prices and rents are still growing. I get it, you are jealous of Toronto, but there is a great big world of facts out there and you and facts don't get along. Get that ignorance fixed and listen when the adults are talking. People aren't moving to ParrySound or North Bay or butt fuck nowhere like they are to the GTA. Toronto is half the province's economy and one quarter of the Country's. We drive the bus and you have to pay to play here. No new houses can be built here yet we add 80,000 peopke a year. It's basic math and economics. Supply low, demand high = rising prices. Until either supply or demand changes, prices are going up. I don't see much new supply but I see everyone and their brother wanting to be where the action is. Draw the obvious conclusion
Is Toronto on the decline?
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You've been drinking out of the toilet way too much. I don't think anyone is jealous of people living in Toronto, certainly not me.
No ignorance here, only you.
More people here are mentioning the decline than how great it it is.
I have no problem listening to adults. Let me know when I am talking to 1.
One thing you need to understand, being the best doesn't negate it from being on the decline.
Toronto is not in decline. It is very expensive, but that has a lot more to do with a stew of issues than it does with city management.
It is denser in population, at least below Dupont, from the DVP to Bathurst. It is livelier.
I could go out every night, to a different cultural event, if I wanted. Jazz one night, theatre another, blues, rock, art installations, etc. There are block parties regularly.
It is dynamic in many ways. There is more and more public art, which creates public spaces and gatherings. That sense of community and neighbourhoods which has always defined the city, is richer than ever.
I walk and cycle around the city. I am amazed by the street life -- a sign of a living breathing city.
People from around the world come here - at different economic levels. They make the city richer, economically and culturally, over time.
This success is one of the reasons it becomes more expensive.
Toronto is now and has always been the city of the future. Ask any couple from Lisbon.
It is denser in population, at least below Dupont, from the DVP to Bathurst. It is livelier.
I could go out every night, to a different cultural event, if I wanted. Jazz one night, theatre another, blues, rock, art installations, etc. There are block parties regularly.
It is dynamic in many ways. There is more and more public art, which creates public spaces and gatherings. That sense of community and neighbourhoods which has always defined the city, is richer than ever.
I walk and cycle around the city. I am amazed by the street life -- a sign of a living breathing city.
People from around the world come here - at different economic levels. They make the city richer, economically and culturally, over time.
This success is one of the reasons it becomes more expensive.
Toronto is now and has always been the city of the future. Ask any couple from Lisbon.
Also, we who book sex workers, know, because many from around the world have posted on this Forum, that Toronto is the envy of many for its variety and quality of sex workers. That's gotta count for something!!
Toronto records highest population decline in decades as urban exodus continues
Toronto's population continues to decline as the pandemic drags on, inspiring more and more people to relocate from big cities to smaller towns where…
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The growth of Toronto was just a manipulation of Immigration policies. Now that covid slowed down travel, it shows the real truth.
From a worldwide perspective:
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#8 isn't too shabby.
These are the top 10 best and worst places to live in the world—and you won't find the U.S. on either list
The 2022 Economist Intelligence Unit’s Global Liveability Index ranked 172 cities across the world. These are the 10 best and 10 worst places to live.
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#8 isn't too shabby.
I think one of the big reasons we get named in top lists of best cities to live in is because we are a relatively safe city. For instance, as of Sept 6 we are at 45 homicides for the year. At that rate we are on pace to have our lowest killing year since 2017.
2017: 65
2018: 98
2019: 79
2020: 71
2021: 85
To put this in perspective. In 2021 Memphis TN recorded 342 homicides with a city population of about 650,000. That's 53 murders per 100,000 residents. The city of Toronto in contrast had about 3 murders per 100,000 residents in 2021.
2017: 65
2018: 98
2019: 79
2020: 71
2021: 85
To put this in perspective. In 2021 Memphis TN recorded 342 homicides with a city population of about 650,000. That's 53 murders per 100,000 residents. The city of Toronto in contrast had about 3 murders per 100,000 residents in 2021.
I have reacted to the changes by changing my stays from 100% downtown to 50% suburban and 50% downtown. When I am downtown I am aware that most robberies and asaullts occur near construction areas, parking entrances - places that lack pedestrian traffic - places where there are long stretches of brick walls with no windows or doors thet overlook the sidewalks. I avoid those places. I take more cabs and Ubers at night where many years ago I would have probably walked. I avoid some areas downtown east of Yonge St. I avoid walking under some parts of the QEW near Lakeshore to the Harbourfront when there are no crowds. Many of the street crimes appear to be committed by repeat offenders who have been let out of revolving door jails. This can be remedied straightaway now that covid in jails is a lesser concern. I remember far more police walking around downtown sidewalks when I was younger. The police also seemed to be friendlier and more approachable then.
Perhaps because I have visited frequently for many decades since I was a child but do not live here full time I notice the changes.
Drivers have become far more reckless. Still familiar Canadian good manners and politeness on Toronto sidewalks and streets does not seem to carry over to young males on the major highways.
I try to arrive late at night on weekends and depart on weekdays during the middle of the day. Car insurance must be through the roof here.
Still, Toronto is a town full of beautiful and witty women and insightful conversationalists from all over the world. The food and drinks are far better than the old days.The architecture is inspiring albeit with some loss of air, light, and lake views. I like the theatre and night spots. You have great bread. It is a wonderful place for a second home. Why the politicians here think it is a just policy to prevent individual Americans from buying a single house in Canada when so many Canadians enjoy full access to places like Florida and Arizona strikes me as hateful and without purpose. I guess I still like it here. It is time for Americans and Canadians to shake hands again and make money, make whoopie, and have some laughs. The Oagre is now disfunctional and unable to destroy our friendships.
Perhaps because I have visited frequently for many decades since I was a child but do not live here full time I notice the changes.
Drivers have become far more reckless. Still familiar Canadian good manners and politeness on Toronto sidewalks and streets does not seem to carry over to young males on the major highways.
I try to arrive late at night on weekends and depart on weekdays during the middle of the day. Car insurance must be through the roof here.
Still, Toronto is a town full of beautiful and witty women and insightful conversationalists from all over the world. The food and drinks are far better than the old days.The architecture is inspiring albeit with some loss of air, light, and lake views. I like the theatre and night spots. You have great bread. It is a wonderful place for a second home. Why the politicians here think it is a just policy to prevent individual Americans from buying a single house in Canada when so many Canadians enjoy full access to places like Florida and Arizona strikes me as hateful and without purpose. I guess I still like it here. It is time for Americans and Canadians to shake hands again and make money, make whoopie, and have some laughs. The Oagre is now disfunctional and unable to destroy our friendships.
Torontoniancation is making californiancation a run for his money! Alot of cities in California are on the decline. Do you see people taking things from stores and walk past security on social media? Now that is what I call a decline. And also the homelessness problem there is getting out of control!
The rapid decline we are seeing in many US cities isn't happening at the same level here.
Seeing tall weeds and grass growing out of gaps in curbs and sidewalks. Never used to be this way. A lack of pride in the appearance of our
city has grown in recent years. John Tory could address this.
city has grown in recent years. John Tory could address this.
Not so fast. Montreal has many many gorgeous women (very true) but it does not have as much diversity. I like variety, Toronto has all Canadian cities beat when it comes to diversité.
More people are irrelevant if they don't know what they're talking about. I see no evidence presented about this decline other than whining about traffic and rat colonies. Like listening to Trump - "Peopke are saying......" Under any objective debating standards you've lost. Thanks for playing
It's true there's few places to go but down when you're the best, but I don't see anyone' in the rear view mirror. This is a booming, highly ranked city in numerous categories. Most of our problems are what you would expect from an in demand city.
That article is 7 months' old and reflects data from the pandemic when the population temporarily declined for the first time in living memory. It has already reversed and growing again. What manipulated immigration policies? We have one of the most conservative immigration programs in the developed world. It priorities skills. We had the lowest immigration in decades during COVID and house prices still rose. Quebec manipulates immigration because they control who enters their province. We don't, and so all the people coming here choos Toronto. Ontario even offers pay bumps to employes to move to other parts of the Province because they can't compete with what Toronto offerToronto records highest population decline in decades as urban exodus continues
Toronto's population continues to decline as the pandemic drags on, inspiring more and more people to relocate from big cities to smaller towns where…
The growth of Toronto was just a manipulation of Immigration policies. Now that covid slowed down travel, it shows the real truth.
