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Putin state propaganda and the Russian home front situation

Dutch Oven

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Hard to say. Ukraine's military is smaller, but more engaged and motivated. They appear to be better trained, are getting better equipment, and know the local area better than the Russian's. Those are major advantages. I'm not going to say I'm 100% convinced that they'll push Russia out, but I think they will continue to inflict a hell of a lot of damage on Russian troops, equipment and materials.
So?
 

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Surely I don't have to explain what I wrote in the post.
You'll have to explain whether you 'll continue to hold on to the delusion that the Ukraine can turn this conflict around anytime soon. You seem to acknowledge that Russia has successfully invaded, despite committing only a small part of their forces and other assets, and having fought less efficiently than they might have. Those are not reasons for optimism.
 

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You'll have to explain whether you 'll continue to hold on to the delusion that the Ukraine can turn this conflict around anytime soon. You seem to acknowledge that Russia has successfully invaded, despite committing only a small part of their forces and other assets, and having fought less efficiently than they might have. Those are not reasons for optimism.
Don't move the goalposts, Dutch. You said that Russia would win because it's a "bear".

I said it's not a bear, it's a little dog because it cannot fully mobilize. Then you moved the goalposts and made a totally different post. I don't have time to deal with you right now. You're playing games and wasting time as usual.
 
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"If you thought Vladimir Solovyov's TV tirades were something else, listen to him lecture an audience of Russian kids about the purpose of life"
If they would just watch Conan the Barbarian they would know the purpose of life is what is best in life, crushing your enemies, driving them before you and hearing the lamentation of their women.
 
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So i see lot of trash talk about russia, with zero compassion for the suffering of Russian ppl in lughansk and donbas who have been held hostage by the Ukranie for over 8 years.

In the meantime little girls are raiaing their hands with the hitlers salute to the brave ukranian Nazi soldiers rushing to the front in their righteous fight.

The ammount of heartlessnes and lies here is sickenning.
 
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So i see lot of trash talk about russia, with zero compassion for the suffering of Russian ppl in lughansk and donbas who have been held hostage by the Ukranie for over 8 years.

In the meantime little girls are raiaing their hands with the hitlers salute to the brave ukranian Nazi soldiers rushing to the front in their righteous fight.

The ammount of heartlessnes and lies here is sickenning.
The Russians started it.
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six_pac

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The Russians started it.
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So you are saying that the Russians overthrew the government in Kiev and replaced it with pro western puppets, that sold all of the Ukraines industry and natrual resources to the western corporations for pennies ona dollar, shut down other manufacturing facilities in order to create mass poverty and unemplymeny, and when the East of the country populated by the Russians decided they dont want to live in such a country, it was the Russians and not Ukranian pawns that strated the slaughter of the Eastern Ukranian Russians.



No Kiev western pawns started it, Russians will finish it.
 

Robert Mugabe

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So you are saying that the Russians overthrew the government in Kiev and replaced it with pro western puppets, that sold all of the Ukraines industry and natrual resources to the western corporations for pennies ona dollar, shut down other manufacturing facilities in order to create mass poverty and unemplymeny, and when the East of the country populated by the Russians decided they dont want to live in such a country, it was the Russians and not Ukranian pawns that strated the slaughter of the Eastern Ukranian Russians.



No Kiev western pawns started it, Russians will finish it.
No. I didn't say that.
Why don't you go back to Russia and sign up? Ukraine was given it's independence.
 

Dutch Oven

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Don't move the goalposts, Dutch. You said that Russia would win because it's a "bear".

I said it's not a bear, it's a little dog because it cannot fully mobilize. Then you moved the goalposts and made a totally different post. I don't have time to deal with you right now. You're playing games and wasting time as usual.
Yes, you're always a waste of my time, but sometimes a guilty pleasure. But "totally different post"? Not even in the slightest.
 

NotADcotor

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So i see lot of trash talk about russia, with zero compassion for the suffering of Russian ppl in lughansk and donbas who have been held hostage by the Ukranie for over 8 years.

In the meantime little girls are raiaing their hands with the hitlers salute to the brave ukranian Nazi soldiers rushing to the front in their righteous fight.

The ammount of heartlessnes and lies here is sickenning.
Yeh nobody is raising their hands with the Hitler salute.

Your lies are sickening. Welcome to the ignore list, I have no time for liars.

Oh wait, I did have you on ignore, I had just turned it off momentarily.
Good to see my decision confirmed.
 

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So you are saying that the Russians overthrew the government in Kiev and replaced it with pro western puppets, that sold all of the Ukraines industry and natrual resources to the western corporations for pennies ona dollar, shut down other manufacturing facilities in order to create mass poverty and unemplymeny, and when the East of the country populated by the Russians decided they dont want to live in such a country, it was the Russians and not Ukranian pawns that strated the slaughter of the Eastern Ukranian Russians.



No Kiev western pawns started it, Russians will finish it.
And Chechnya begged Putin to come in too, right?
Putin had to because western pawns were doing something or other or maybe it was NATO....
 
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