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canabiz

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Looking at this discussion though, even seeking is kinda the same way. A lot of men, and a fewer women who are going to pair of with the top 25% of the men if not 10%. So you got to be in the top 25% either by looks or by the size of your wallet. Yes the wallet size wouldn't factor in so much on tinder, but wouldn't hurt either.

It seems a lot of work to finding the required fit though.

@Badhabits in your post you say "there are services ...". What do you mean by these services?

I haven't taken the dip yet and still on the fence. But thank you to all the contributors.
I obviously don't have all the data points but I would hazard a guess the ratio of men/women on these sugaring websites is a little bit more balanced than say Tinder where the number of men simply outweigh the number of women.

In addition, the women who sign up for these sugaring websites all, more or less, have a financial need. I am not saying they will simply throw all their standards out the windows and go out with just about anyone who is willing to pay but the reality is they can't be too choosy either, like Tinder.

Questions for the sugaring pros here: I understand guys can create free profile. Is there a way to mention your Twitter/Snap/Instagram/whatever social media platform you use in your bio/description discreetly so that the ladies browsing your profile can contact you that way and you don't have to pony up the monthly subscription fee to send and receive messages?

Or these websites have algorithms/bots/scripts to scan and pick up those keywords and there is just no other way to contact the ladies, unless you pay the monthly fee?
 
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I obviously don't have all the data points but I would hazard a guess the ratio of men/women on these sugaring websites is a little bit more balanced than say Tinder where the number of men simply outweigh the number of women.

In addition, the women who sign up for these sugaring websites all, more or less, have a financial need. I am not saying they will simply throw all their standards out the windows and go out with just about anyone who is willing to pay but the reality is they can't be too choosy either, like Tinder.

Questions for the sugaring pros here: I understand guys can create free profile. Is there a way to mention your Twitter/Snap/Instagram/whatever social media platform you use in your bio/description discreetly so that the ladies browsing your profile can contact you that way and you don't have to pony up the monthly subscription fee to send and receive messages?

Or these websites have algorithms/bots/scripts to scan and pick up those keywords and there is just no other way to contact the ladies, unless you pay the monthly fee?
There is often more women than men on Seeking. In some regions, the ratio is close to three women to every man. But these figures really do not mean a lot. A lot of the women on Seeking are average looking at best and will probably never find a sugar arrangement (at least not to their satisfaction). A lot of guys do not have the means to sustain a long-term sugar relationships, many will attempt to scam or mislead people.

Each side experiences their own hurdles in finding an arrangement.

The women on Seeking are willing to make a trade, so intuitively they will date people they otherwise would not. They are still selective. Keep in mind that a lot of these young girls are very self-conscious. They may not be comfortable being in public with a man with a huge age-gap, with people looking at them. Their tolerance making out with unappealing men is going to be a lot lower than an escort.

Profiles go through an approval process and it's unlikely listing social media will get through.
 
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If there is good rapport and I liked the girl, I'll give her a $100 gift as a gesture of goodwill. It's not something I tell her in advance. If both parties want to move forward, than PPM starts when there is an agreed-upon arrangement in place.

All of my first official sugar dates have concluded with sex. No money was ever given up front, only once they are back at my condo.
I wonder, do you guys give any consolation money to girls if MnG did not go well for kinda chemistry reasons. I.e. if there was no fake pics/misrepresentation but rather you simply don't feel like you'd get your $$ worth of fun out of it.
 

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Questions for the sugaring pros here: I understand guys can create free profile. Is there a way to mention your Twitter/Snap/Instagram/whatever social media platform you use in your bio/description discreetly so that the ladies browsing your profile can contact you that way and you don't have to pony up the monthly subscription fee to send and receive messages?

Or these websites have algorithms/bots/scripts to scan and pick up those keywords and there is just no other way to contact the ladies, unless you pay the monthly fee?
as we all realize, seeking cannot allow contact to happen unless the fee is paid. So no links in bio.
But if you want, seeking will verify your social media and you'll get a visible badge confirming each item ie fb or insta etc
 
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Looking at this discussion though, even seeking is kinda the same way. A lot of men, and a fewer women who are going to pair of with the top 25% of the men if not 10%. So you got to be in the top 25% either by looks or by the size of your wallet. Yes the wallet size wouldn't factor in so much on tinder, but wouldn't hurt either.

It seems a lot of work to finding the required fit though.

@Badhabits in your post you say "there are services ...". What do you mean by these services?

I haven't taken the dip yet and still on the fence. But thank you to all the contributors.
There's groups out there that trade information on SBs to expedite the process of meeting them or forgo doing all the work online so you can contact them directly.
 

Sinfulmarv

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I wonder, do you guys give any consolation money to girls if MnG did not go well for kinda chemistry reasons. I.e. if there was no fake pics/misrepresentation but rather you simply don't feel like you'd get your $$ worth of fun out of it.
I usually bring $100 with me. Assuming I wasn't catfished and things went well, I typically give it to them at the end for their efforts. In most cases, it usually leads to an arrangement.
 
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Leimonis

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I usually bring $100 with me. Assuming I wasn't catfished and things went well, I typically give it to them at the end for their efforts. In most cases, it usually leads to an arrangement.
but what if things don't go well i.e. she turned out to be someone who doesn't make your dick hard enough through no particular fault of her own
 

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5 years ago all my hobby money went to SPs. Over the last four years 95 percent of it goes to SBs.
If you had a rough start, don't let it stop you. Once you find your way around, like in the SP scene, you'll be thankful you kept trying.

The most important thing being repeated, IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE.
 

canabiz

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There is often more women than men on Seeking. In some regions, the ratio is close to three women to every man. But these figures really do not mean a lot. A lot of the women on Seeking are average looking at best and will probably never find a sugar arrangement (at least not to their satisfaction). A lot of guys do not have the means to sustain a long-term sugar relationships, many will attempt to scam or mislead people.

Each side experiences their own hurdles in finding an arrangement.

The women on Seeking are willing to make a trade, so intuitively they will date people they otherwise would not. They are still selective. Keep in mind that a lot of these young girls are very self-conscious. They may not be comfortable being in public with a man with a huge age-gap, with people looking at them. Their tolerance making out with unappealing men is going to be a lot lower than an escort.

Profiles go through an approval process and it's unlikely listing social media will get through.
You raised a good point about this being a cost-prohibitive endeavour, after all is said and done.

If I remember what you wrote in your excellent long post on the first page correctly, each meet can range from $200 - $500. Assuming this is a weekly event (or bi-weekly), you will be looking at anywhere between $800 a month up to $2K. This may (or may not) include other expenses like dinner dates, shopping, potential trips. And presumably this is only for 1 sugar baby, it is entirely possible to have at least 1 more piece on the side.

This being a government town where I don't know too many public servants with that kind of disposable income, financial constraint can certainly be a roadblock to maintaining this lifestyle/hobby
 
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You raised a good point about this being a cost-prohibitive endeavour, after all is said and done.

If I remember what you wrote in your excellent long post on the first page correctly, each meet can range from $200 - $500. Assuming this is a weekly event (or bi-weekly), you will be looking at anywhere between $800 a month up to $2K. This may (or may not) include other expenses like dinner dates, shopping, potential trips. And presumably this is only for 1 sugar baby, it is entirely possible to have at least 1 more piece on the side.

This being a government town where I don't know too many public servants with that kind of disposable income, financial constraint can certainly be a roadblock to maintaining this lifestyle/hobby
The reality is that less than 9-percent of men in the Ottawa-Gatineau metropolitan area earn $100,000 or more. That figure is on the higher end for most cities in North America, which is largely due to the high concentration of well-paid, unionized government jobs. But how many people are actively seeking a sugar relationship, much less genuinely looking for something long-term?

There are far more women willing to sugar date than there are men both available and able to sustain such an arrangement. An average looking woman has gotten attention her entire life, but sugar dating is a completely different ball game. I’d venture to guess that most sugar relationships don’t make it to six months.

You’re right that sugaring is an expensive venture, a lot more so than seeing an low- to mid-range escort a couple times a month. There is PPM, dinning out, hotels, gifts and shopping. You can probably get away with few gifts and no shopping, but it’s not reasonable to have a 3-5 hour date and not provide a meal. A lot of guys do not have the luxury of being to host, and that 3rd uOttawa student isn’t hosting a middle-aged man at her dorm or shared apartment/house. But I think it's accessible to anybody making a decent salary and some savings.

A lot of public servants live in dual-income homes, locked in a mortgage long before housing prices start to soar, and have made investments over the years. Might not be able to run sugar relationship indefinitely, but could certainly have a good run at it. I speak from experience, I've had several sugar relationships with the longest lasting a little over 11 months.
 
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I joined seeking ....just to look around and I certainly think that its cheaper to just get a normal escort twice a month than make most of these ladies happy....not to mention the outrageous subscription fees... T think you'd have better luck getting a FWB type thing on FB dating....and its free
 

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I joined seeking ....just to look around and I certainly think that its cheaper to just get a normal escort twice a month than make most of these ladies happy....not to mention the outrageous subscription fees... T think you'd have better luck getting a FWB type thing on FB dating....and its free
There are promotion codes sent to emails/floating around that will help a bit with the subscription fees but you are right, if you are just looking for a wham, bam, thank you m'aam experience to relieve stress then SP/MA maybe a better choice.

If you have the time, the financial resources, and enjoy the thrill of the hunt then you may get more mileage with SB.

I think there is a market for both so all depends on what we are after. As mentioned before, there are SPs/MAs on Seeking and I would not be surprised if some of these SBs may go the SP/MA route at some point, if they are not already there.
 
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