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Trump says Mar-a-Lago home in Florida 'under siege' by FBI agents

jcpro

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So your position is that these were planted?

Maybe there's a tiktok you can post.

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Dude, return.to reality- YOU posted the absurd photo.
 
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ROTFLMFAO!!! Look to the right- the smoking gun!!! Framed front pages of Time in the box.
What does the fact that he kept the files in the same place as his Time magazine cover have to do with it?
 

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What does the fact that he kept the files in the same place as his Time magazine cover have to do with it?
ROTFLMFAO! What an true ideologue you are. That's the "EVIDENCE "!
 

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ROTFLMFAO! What an true ideologue you are. That's the "EVIDENCE "!
Yes.
That is one box of the stuff they packed.
It is full of classified material, it also has his framed Time magazine cover.

As reported in the receipt they released (and gave Trump) the boxes included a mix of classified material and other things.

In other words, the picture looks like what one would expect from the previous filed documents.

I'm trying to figure out why you think the framed Time magazine cover is so important or in any way exculpatory.
 

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Yes.
That is one box of the stuff they packed.
It is full of classified material, it also has his framed Time magazine cover.
As reported in the receipt they released (and gave Trump) the boxes included a mix of classified material and other things.
In other words, the picture looks like what one would expect from the previous filed documents.
I'm trying to figure out why you think the framed Time magazine cover is so important or in any way exculpatory.
I believe he's suggesting that it's a fake news photo with planted material juxtaposed with Trump memorabilia. We all "know" that the Deep State has to overthrow Trump before he drains the Swamp. That's why they stole the 2020 election after all.
 

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I think he is going for the Chewbacca Defense.
If that means continually ducking any questions while smokescreening with insults, you're probably correct.

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Yes.
That is one box of the stuff they packed.
It is full of classified material, it also has his framed Time magazine cover.

As reported in the receipt they released (and gave Trump) the boxes included a mix of classified material and other things.

In other words, the picture looks like what one would expect from the previous filed documents.

I'm trying to figure out why you think the framed Time magazine cover is so important or in any way exculpatory.
in other words it's a desperate fishing trip and an incompetent one. All in the hope of preventing the political opponent from defeating the current President. That's why they redacted 60% of the affidavit. A third world bullshit that the American lefties of the yesteryear would have had found disgusting. Of course the current lefties are just fascist morons.
 

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in other words it's a desperate fishing trip and an incompetent one. All in the hope of preventing the political opponent from defeating the current President. That's why they redacted 60% of the affidavit. A third world bullshit that the American lefties of the yesteryear would have had found disgusting. Of course the current lefties are just fascist morons.
They redacted the affidavit because it contained sensitive and classified information which would endanger national security and also information which would impede ongoing criminal investigations. The second reason is pretty standard in criminal proceedings. All affidavits are redacted pretty much. For instance informants' names are always removed.

You know nothing about criminal law.

Can you please answer my original question?
 

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They redacted the affidavit because it contained sensitive and classified information which would endanger national security and also information which would impede ongoing criminal investigations. The second reason is pretty standard in criminal proceedings. All affidavits are redacted pretty much. For instance informants' names are always removed.

You know nothing about criminal law.

Can you please answer my original question?
This is NOT a criminal case no matter what the DOJ is trying.
 

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If that means continually ducking any questions while smokescreening with insults, you're probably correct.

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Close enough.


 

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This is NOT a criminal case no matter what the DOJ is trying.
Yes, it is. How is it NOT a criminal search?

The FBI did a search under a federal criminal search warrant and criminal statutes. No charges have been laid - yet.

It's clearly a criminal procedure.
 

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in other words it's a desperate fishing trip and an incompetent one. All in the hope of preventing the political opponent from defeating the current President. That's why they redacted 60% of the affidavit. A third world bullshit that the American lefties of the yesteryear would have had found disgusting. Of course the current lefties are just fascist morons.
You thinking it is a fishing expedition relates to your focus on the TIME magazine frame how?

This is NOT a criminal case no matter what the DOJ is trying.
Do you mean it isn't a criminal case or do you mean you don't think they will indict or convict?
 
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Judge hasn't ruled yet, or did something just break?
This is just DOJ saying they don't think it is needed.
I jumped the gun. It's an overload of coffee dammit. At least it isn't a case of premature ejaculation which would be a real tragedy.
 
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Judge hasn't ruled yet, or did something just break?
This is just DOJ saying they don't think it is needed.
It's a nothing-burger anyway. It's being painted as a Trump stall and probably is. OTOH, appointing a special master is a standard procedure to check if all the priveleged documents have been separated out and returned along with documents not related to the investigation.
 

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It's a nothing-burger anyway. It's being painted as a Trump stall and probably is. OTOH, appointing a special master is a standard procedure to check if all the priveleged documents have been separated out and returned along with documents not related to the investigation.
It's obviously a Trump stall.
But if the judge goes with it we are looking at 8 months to a year delay, probably.
 
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