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Valcazar

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I know. There was an article on that subject. Shit is unravelling because they hadn't done the paperwork. So that lets them off the hook.
Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons back to Russia on the promise that by doing so Russia wouldn't invade. At least they did the paperwork on that one.
But haven't you been listening to Notti?
Only NATO and the US can break agreements.
Russia explicitly breaking the Budapest Memorandum doesn't count.
 

nottyboi

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yup, it does and Notty is proud. Imagine a cop roughly handcuffs a subject here and look out, Notty would be all over it.
Its really no worse then any military heavy weapon. In fact its less bad then conventional artillery and heavy machine guns which shreds bodies.
 

nottyboi

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I know. There was an article on that subject. Shit is unravelling because they hadn't done the paperwork. So that lets them off the hook.
Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons back to Russia on the promise that by doing so Russia wouldn't invade. At least they did the paperwork on that one.
they were also supposed to remain neutral, NATO committed not too expand ...bla bla bla .
 

nottyboi

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Wow, you really idolize Putin and his cohorts. Do you actually believe if it was Russia vs the US in a conventional air, sea, and land war minus nukes, Russia would prevail? I hope we never have to see it but honestly, do you really believe that?
if that happened it could never remain conventional. You really idolize the military largess of the USA. Russia spends FAR less then the USA and has 1/3 of the population. USA could not defeat Vietnam, Afghanistan or China. So what makes you think they can defeat Russia? The US is far more dependent on seaborne trade then Russia.
 

Valcazar

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In fact its less bad then conventional artillery and heavy machine guns which shreds bodies.
Not really.
Thermobaric weaponry is pretty fucking awful.
It crushes bodies.
I have a lot of trouble thinking of it as "less bad" than artillery or machine guns.
 

mandrill

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It ties in perfectly to my narative of France supporting terror and being an opressor, you are the one defending a franchophone exploitation of africans, and are now backpeddaling and deflecting, just because you are unabke to grasp a big picture, and choose to ignore the root of the actual problem, instead making uo excuses for the French to go and murder even more innocent people.
No.

Osborne and I simply said that France was invited in by the then-current Malian regime to take back control of territory that had been seized violently by an Islamist group. You had asserted otherwise. We proved you wrong. Hence you now attempt to wriggle and deflect.
 
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six_pac

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No.

Osborne and I simply said that France was invited in by the then-current Malian regime to take back control of territory that had been seized violently by an Islamist group. You had asserted otherwise. We proved you wrong. Hence you now attempt to wriggle and deflect.
NO, French have been creating chaos in that country for decades.
 

nottyboi

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Not really.
Thermobaric weaponry is pretty fucking awful.
It crushes bodies.
I have a lot of trouble thinking of it as "less bad" than artillery or machine guns.
Well it has 3 modes of killing fire (bad) blast (instant) and hypoxia(not bad at all). It really depends on where you are when they are used. Artillery can blast you to smithereens (gory but instant) blow parts of your body off (terrible) shower you with deadly or just heinous shrapnel, (depends on where it hits and how, small holes, slicing your face off, slicing large gashses in your body, spilling your guts, slicing limbs off all possible) then there is blast effect which is probably instant, or it can pick you up and throw you injuring you horribly or leaving you just shaken up. Being hit with a heavy MG is not like hollywood makes it out to be. It will slice you in half if it hits you in the torso. blow off your limbs with a single round or vaporize your head. So thermobarics add the fire component and the oxygen deprivation component. Even if you get hit by a standard assault rifle, you life is very likely never gonna be the same if you survive. War is hell.
 

basketcase

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I know. There was an article on that subject. Shit is unravelling because they hadn't done the paperwork. So that lets them off the hook.
Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons back to Russia on the promise that by doing so Russia wouldn't invade. At least they did the paperwork on that one.
And thankfully that deal prevented Russia from annexing Crimea then invading Ukraine.
 

basketcase

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Its really no worse then any military heavy weapon. In fact its less bad then conventional artillery and heavy machine guns which shreds bodies.
Which Russia has also used in Syria and Ukraine against clearly civilian targets.
 

mandrill

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NO, French have been creating chaos in that country for decades.
Again, not relevant to anything anyone has said in this thread.

You want to start a thread about French colonialism in Mali in 1899, go ahead.
 

nottyboi

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Back to claiming Russia's invasion is really the fault of the US?
yes i agree with the Pope and the Chinese. When Biden was 100% certain Russia was gonna attack, did he lift a FINGER to try and stop it? What does that tell you?
 

Leimonis

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yes i agree with the Pope and the Chinese. When Biden was 100% certain Russia was gonna attack, did he lift a FINGER to try and stop it? What does that tell you?
would you rather live under Pope, Chinese or Biden? What does that tell you?
 

six_pac

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Again, not relevant to anything anyone has said in this thread.

You want to start a thread about French colonialism in Mali in 1899, go ahead.
Ok lets go back to Ukraine, I say this time next year, odesa and wntire nikolaev region will together with transnistria be a part of the Russian federation, they might take and include Kiev as well just for the hell of it.
 
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