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Trump raided by the FBI! Mar-a-Lago search warrant!!

mandrill

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It doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks, does and where it shits. What matters is that fascist administration used goons with ARs to confiscate former president's passports.
They weren't "confiscated". They were seized with a search warrant. Crim Pro 101. And then returned a few days later.

The sad song isn't very sad.
 
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Valcazar

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Tucker actually makes some good points.
Care to summarize?
I don't intend to subject myself to Carlson but I am curious what the talking points/marching orders are.

What are the points he makes? Feel free to point out the ones you think are good.
 
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Valcazar

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Murdoch says the FBI is targeting you and all the rumpsters, not rump himself. Time for the rumpsters to sharpen their pitchforks.
That just sounds like they are recycling the "jack-booted thugs" and "black helicopters" stuff from the 90s.
 

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Care to summarize?
I don't intend to subject myself to Carlson but I am curious what the talking points/marching orders are.

What are the points he makes? Feel free to point out the ones you think are good.
I only watched a few minutes. He pointed out that almost all government docents are stamped confidential, even if the information in them are trivial.
PS: Paul Ralston Saul makes that point forcefully on "Voltaire's Bastards"
 

Valcazar

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Apparently multiple warrants for multiple investigations have been executed...

Not clear this actually has anything to do with Trump.
The Media saw two case numbers and asked for both to be unsealed and the government is saying "the second case has nothing to do with the first case".

Now, that doesn't mean for sure that it has nothing to do with Trump, but it also doesn't mean it does.
It could have just been a case of the media seeing the two cases were being looked at or filed closely together and jumped to the conclusion they were connected (or didn't want to risk missing out if they were so just asked for both).

Definitely a wait and see situation I think.
 

Valcazar

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I only watched a few minutes. He pointed out that almost all government docents are stamped confidential, even if the information in them are trivial.
PS: Paul Ralston Saul makes that point forcefully on "Voltaire's Bastards"
Paul Ralston Saul makes no such point in "Voltaire's Bastards" because it was written by John Ralston Saul.

The government over-classifying isn't really at play here, though.
It appears to have nothing to do with what is going on given the charges filed.
"It is stupid that this is considered classified, therefore I will just break the law" isn't really a defense even Trump has tried yet.

They might be gearing up to it, but since they didn't even bother touching it at first, seems beside the point.
 

danmand

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Paul Ralston Saul makes no such point in "Voltaire's Bastards" because it was written by John Ralston Saul.

The government over-classifying isn't really at play here, though.
It appears to have nothing to do with what is going on given the charges filed.
"It is stupid that this is considered classified, therefore I will just break the law" isn't really a defense even Trump has tried yet.

They might be gearing up to it, but since they didn't even bother touching it at first, seems beside the point.
I cannot give you a quote from the book, because I am currently on the beach in Cuba. But read the book again.

And I am saying that all governments over classify, to the extend everything is classified, in order to be able to prosecute anybody who show unbecoming actions by the government, Manning, Assange are recent examples.
 
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mandrill

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I cannot give you a quote from the book, because I am currently on the beach in Cuba. But read the book again.

And I am saying that all governments over classify, to the extend everything is classified, in order to be able to prosecute anybody who show unbecoming actions by the government, Manning, Assange are recent examples.
Are you saying that the documents revealed by Manning and Assange should not have been given a classification???!!!!.... Seriously? You're that far down the Silly Path??!!
 

mandrill

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It doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks, does and where it shits. What matters is that fascist administration used goons with ARs to confiscate former president's passports.
Of course, the other explanation in a confidential documents trafficking case is that they wanted to check if Trumpo had visited North Korea or Iran since stealing all those top secret papers.
 

silentkisser

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It doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks, does and where it shits. What matters is that fascist administration used goons with ARs to confiscate former president's passports.
LOL

OK, thanks for the laugh. You really did drink *all* of the Kool-Aid...I gotta keep reminding myself that you live in a different reality where inconvenient facts don't really exist...
 
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