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Dutch Oven

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Rigorous temperature recording did not begin in the UK until the mid 1800's.

The UK was just as warm in Roman Times, without the "carbon footprint" explanation: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/2/024001.

We'll have to wait for science to advance to find out (no doubt) that the UK was even hotter during some even earlier period.

Our climate scientists are consistently wrong, but that's just because we keep asking them to exceed their abilities.
 

dirtydaveiii

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This was the POVs of the Climate Change / Global warming Deniers so called "Experts" at one time:

The claim: A 'Grand Solar Minimum' will halt global warming





But the reality in the UK is:
Heatwave ‘melts runway’ at Luton airport and hundreds of trains cancelled

Record temperatures on Monday forced the cancellation of hundreds of train services, while flights at Luton airport were stopped after heat “melted the runway”.Roads and trains were quieter than usual on Monday morning as many people heeded advice to stay home if possible in the heatwave – but UK transport operators warned the worst was yet to come.

Train cancellations and delays started to accumulate in early afternoon, with speed limits brought into force at midday as temperatures edged into the high 30Cs.

London Luton airport halted operations on Monday afternoon to repair the runway. The airport said: “Following today’s high temperatures, a surface defect was identified.”

Passengers on one incoming easyJet flight from Italy were told they were being diverted because of “bits of tarmac melting” on the runway.

Network Rail said passengers should consider using the railway on Monday and Tuesday only if absolutely necessary, and, if travelling, they should carry water and be prepared for much longer journeys.

Higher temperatures spreading north led to Scotrail on Monday following England and Wales in slowing down trains for safety. Trains across Britain were limited to a 90mph maximum, while on the east coast line linking London, York and Edinburgh the top speed was halved to 60mph.

The east coast line is predicted to experience the hottest temperatures, and some of its infrastructure, including for the wires and track, are more susceptible to damage in heat than other parts of the UK railway. The line will be closed entirely south of Leeds and York on Tuesday.

On the west coast mainline, Avanti was running about one train an hour on big intercity routes on Monday, with a London-Manchester service taking three and a half hours rather than two.

A Network Rail spokesperson said passengers who travelled on Monday morning “should not be lulled into a false sense of security” by services running properly, with the speed limits only coming into effect at noon.

With temperatures poised to remain high throughout the night, the restrictions will remain in place until the end of Tuesday.

That means all long-distance services will inevitably be disrupted, although suburban trains rarely exceed 90mph for long periods. However, the spokesperson said that with peak temperatures of about 40C forecast by the afternoon – and steel rails and equipment likely to be 20C hotter – “breakdowns are inevitable”.

Services on Wednesday, when temperatures are forecast to drop significantly, could be affected by damage to the infrastructure over the next two days.

Stations were reportedly quieter than usual on Monday morning, with noticeably fewer passengers at Birmingham New Street and around London terminals. Network Rail said passenger numbers were down by an estimated 20%.

Tube passenger numbers until 10am were 18% lower than last Monday, and bus passengers 10% down, according to Transport for London. TfL had also advised passengers to travel only if essential, with temporary speed restrictions liable to slow and disrupt parts of its network.

By early afternoon one tube line, the Hammersmith and City line, and parts of the London Overground were suspended because of the heat.

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Road congestion data from TomTom, the satnav firm, showed fewer cars on the roads in cities around Britain. Its congestion levels – measured by the percentage delay to free-flowing traffic – in the morning rush-hour were about 5-10% lower than a week ago in London, Bristol, Glasgow and Manchester.

Motoring organisations have warned of a high risk of breakdown, from engines overheating, tyre blowouts and faster fuel consumption in the heat.

Although asphalt on minor roads could reach melting point, a National Highways spokesperson said that the main strategic roads were engineered to be resilient to temperatures of more than 60C, and there were no reported problems.


Spain and France are facing some of the most unprecedented forest fires. China has had the highest temperatures ever as well.

What else has to occur for these Climate Change Deniers to come back to reality??
 

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And at that time several 'experts' were warning of a mini ice age.
Well, around the same time we had some truly magnificent winters, too. Where I used to live, the snowfall was well over meter and a half with a long lasting cold snaps that lasted for weeks. That part of Europe had to wait until the winter of 1985 for another winter like that , only that time there was hardly any snow, but weeks of -30C . Incidentally, that was the last time the Baltic Sea froze over. Just a semi regular pattern of European weather which now became an "existential threat".
 

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I'm not sure I buy into the panic. The Brits are saying that temperature "could possibly" hit 40 degrees, but probably not. We routinely get temperatures in the 34 - 36 degree range here. It looks like the Brits might hit 38 degrees.
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And at that time several 'experts' were warning of a mini ice age.
Ah that bullshit. A couple fringe people were talking about it and because it sells, some media picked it up. Even at the time, the vast majority of climate research at the time predicted warming.
 

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Rigorous temperature recording did not begin in the UK until the mid 1800's.

The UK was just as warm in Roman Times, without the "carbon footprint" explanation: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/2/024001.

We'll have to wait for science to advance to find out (no doubt) that the UK was even hotter during some even earlier period.

Our climate scientists are consistently wrong, but that's just because we keep asking them to exceed their abilities.
Moreover, this was a very critical part of that conclusion:

However, summer temperatures during the last 30 yr (1986–2015) have been anomalously high and we find no evidence of any period in the last 2000 years being as warm (tables S11, S12).
This was up to 2015. We have seen record high temperatures in Europe from 2015 to 2022. So obviously that Science has to be updated in the near future to include this Calendar 2022 Year. It is of real significance!!
 

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"them thar" "Communist Nazis"??

Translate..........Alt Right Winger Lingo!!
You know I wasn't mocking you but people who deny reality right. I would have hoped "calling you" a communist and a nazi would give it away and the redneckian them thar.
Just making sure we are on the same page here.

I get that sarcasm doesn't translate over the internet to the bane of fat guys everywhere.

 

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You know I wasn't mocking you but people who deny reality right. I would have hoped "calling you" a communist and a nazi would give it away and the redneckian them thar.
Just making sure we are on the same page here.

I get that sarcasm doesn't translate over the internet to the bane of fat guys everywhere.

I understand that, and the response was all in pure jest towards the alt right. (y)
 

NotADcotor

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I understand that, and the response was all in pure jest towards the alt right.
Again, with the sarcasm being hard to read, even for a life time fatty for whom sarcasm is a first language.
I thought it might be that way, just making sure.

I thought of something earlier today. Isn't it ironic that the alt right is wrong about most things even though it's "right"
Doncha think.

Yeah I know multiple meanings, thank you but I prefer it my way.
 

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Well, around the same time we had some truly magnificent winters, too. Where I used to live, the snowfall was well over meter and a half with a long lasting cold snaps that lasted for weeks. That part of Europe had to wait until the winter of 1985 for another winter like that , only that time there was hardly any snow, but weeks of -30C . Incidentally, that was the last time the Baltic Sea froze over. Just a semi regular pattern of European weather which now became an "existential threat".
And it was also right around the same time some fool thought that the earth wasn't at the centre of the universe and even more stupid people didn't realize that carbon dating is wrong and god put dinosaur bones on the earth which is only a few thousand years old. When will these fools realize that scientists are a bunch of liars and that the church knows all
 
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Yesterday I went for a 30 minute walk. I was wearing a tank top and shorts. By 7pm I felt exhausted I fell asleep. At 4am when I woke up my entire body was burnt and I believe the reason I passed out was from the sun being sweltering hot. Never before in my life do I burn in that short of time so the sun must be a lot hotter than the old days.
 

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But did you feel good during that 30 min walk in the heat? If you
did then maybe you are just physically not fit enough. Walk more
next day. As for me I prefer to stay indoor when it is that hot out there.
 
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Moreover, this was a very critical part of that conclusion:



This was up to 2015. We have seen record high temperatures in Europe from 2015 to 2022. So obviously that Science has to be updated in the near future to include this Calendar 2022 Year. It is of real significance!!
2000 years is a very short time in the history of this planet. You're looking at this issue through a pinhole.
 

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Here is a climate solution to ameliorate extreme heat wave
when it hits Scotland next time.


Climate change: Drilling new Cambo oil and gas field off Shetland will actually help the UK cut its carbon emissions
 

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Yesterday I went for a 30 minute walk. I was wearing a tank top and shorts. By 7pm I felt exhausted I fell asleep. At 4am when I woke up my entire body was burnt and I believe the reason I passed out was from the sun being sweltering hot. Never before in my life do I burn in that short of time so the sun must be a lot hotter than the old days.
You do realize that yesterday was July 18? The day that the sun is closest to the surface of earth (in the northern hemisphere) is June 21 (a little more than 3 weeks ago). Have you been tracking, throughout your life, how much exposure it took to sunburn at this exact time of year?

How about other factors? Is your skin less oily/more dry than it used to be? Were you poorly hydrated yesterday? What colours were you wearing? How reflective was the fabric? Where did you go on your walk? Were there radiant surfaces during the walk that increased the ambient temperature? How windy was it?

Do you understand yet why you can't arrive at scientific conclusions from limited anecdotal evidence?

Some days are hot and the sun is direct. Best to either use sunscreen, cover up with breathable clothing, or stay inside on such days (at least in middle of the day).
 

Claudia Love

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You do realize that yesterday was July 18? The day that the sun is closest to the surface of earth (in the northern hemisphere) is June 21 (a little more than 3 weeks ago). Have you been tracking, throughout your life, how much exposure it took to sunburn at this exact time of year?

How about other factors? Is your skin less oily/more dry than it used to be? Were you poorly hydrated yesterday? What colours were you wearing? How reflective was the fabric? Where did you go on your walk? Were there radiant surfaces during the walk that increased the ambient temperature? How windy was it?

Do you understand yet why you can't arrive at scientific conclusions from limited anecdotal evidence?

Some days are hot and the sun is direct. Best to either use sunscreen, cover up with breathable clothing, or stay inside on such days (at least in middle of the day).
you make me feel like im tripping on mushrooms LMAO thanks for that reply I enjoyed reading it but I still need to have my coffee today ;)
 
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