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Clinton vs Trump rematch ‘24

Who wins 2024?

  • Donald

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • Hillary

    Votes: 6 24.0%
  • Someone else

    Votes: 11 44.0%

  • Total voters
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jcpro

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First, they have to dump Joe. As for Hillary, nothing is changed, she's as unlikable as ever- only this time she'll also have the burden of the Democrat failures.
 

poker

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If Hillary were to hold the Presidency…. And the GOP the Congress and Senate…. There would be a Kangaroo Court Impeachment for some sort of Cabal from the really smart people like Brobert and MTG (and yes, even the grown ups in the party would be happy to play revenge politics).

The country would grind to a halt in spectacular drama… all while it’s enemies continue to make tactical Gaines economically against it.

It’s a shame that America is at war with itself, as she would have made a great leader.
 
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richaceg

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I think the DNC learn from that last election with Hilary....Kamala probably has a better chance than her at this point....and Kamala isn't winning...it's giant douche vs turd sandwich all over again...
 

KDK13

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If Hillary were to hold the Presidency…. And the GOP the Congress and Senate…. There would be a Kangaroo Court Impeachment for some sort of Cabal from the really smart people like Brobert and MTG (and yes, even the grown ups in the party would be happy to play revenge politics).

The country would grind to a halt in spectacular drama… all while it’s enemies continue to make tactical Gaines economically against it.

It’s a shame that America is at war with itself, as she would have made a great leader.
Going back to Bill Clinton, started by Newt Gingrich, the Republicans only obstruct when a Democrat is President. They have no policy except against whatever the D president wants. Gingrich shut down government, impeached for a lie about a bj, congressional committees designed to only harass (whitewater, vince foster, etc, all leading to nowhere). Obama had the tea party, and the heaps of investigations (fast and furious, IRS, Benghazi) all leading nowhere. The Republicans will do the same to Biden if they take control of congress. Simple stop the Ds from doing anything. Say whatever no matter how hypocritical (remember how deficits mattered, but didn't when Trump was prez).

In contrast Democrat investigations lead to indictments and convictions (Scooter Libby, Mueller, etc) .
 

bver_hunter

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They should change the rules and allow a former president to run for a further two terms. Obama will be the perfect fit as Bush and Trumpty Dumpty will have not a sniff of a chance of beating him!!

The only Republican that I would vote for is Kayleigh McEnany. Although, she spews right wing bullshit, she somehow is a likeable person:



Would also endorse her running mate Kaley Cuoco:

 

danmand

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Anybody under 60.
 

poker

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Going back to Bill Clinton, started by Newt Gingrich, the Republicans only obstruct when a Democrat is President. They have no policy except against whatever the D president wants. Gingrich shut down government, impeached for a lie about a bj, congressional committees designed to only harass (whitewater, vince foster, etc, all leading to nowhere). Obama had the tea party, and the heaps of investigations (fast and furious, IRS, Benghazi) all leading nowhere. The Republicans will do the same to Biden if they take control of congress. Simple stop the Ds from doing anything. Say whatever no matter how hypocritical (remember how deficits mattered, but didn't when Trump was prez).

In contrast Democrat investigations lead to indictments and convictions (Scooter Libby, Mueller, etc) .
Back in the 80’s, in Texas… a Democrat who spent $10,000 on a campaign to be local judge, beat the R candidate who spent a million. The D judge soon had a corruption investigation levelled against him. He was suspended from the bench while the investigation went on… till the next election cycle. And all over the TV was “Judge **** has been suspended for corruption! Vote for Bob”. (Or whatever it was). A new judge was elected, and the investigation was dropped. No charges.

It’s organized beyond belief.
 
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HeadNTheClouds

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I can't take idiotic articles like this seriously. While Trump will probably run again, Hillary definitely will not and should not. I was really hoping Bernie Sanders would win in 2020 but it wasn't meant to be. Although she isn't as good of a candidate and lacks his integrity, Warren should probably run again. She would be a far better choice than anyone the Dems are currently floating.
 

mandrill

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I can't take idiotic articles like this seriously. While Trump will probably run again, Hillary definitely will not and should not. I was really hoping Bernie Sanders would win in 2020 but it wasn't meant to be. Although she isn't as good of a candidate and lacks his integrity, Warren should probably run again. She would be a far better choice than anyone the Dems are currently floating.
TBH, I was disappointed by the slate of candidates that the Dems fielded in 2020. Biden parachuted in as the best of a mediocre bunch. I was hoping that the New BHO would come out of nowhere. Instead, we got a pleasant, competent-ish old guy who was more acceptable than Trump.

I would have supported Buttigieg, but his gayness would have killed the Black vote and lost the election.
 

james t kirk

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^^^ I agree
I can't take idiotic articles like this seriously. While Trump will probably run again, Hillary definitely will not and should not. I was really hoping Bernie Sanders would win in 2020 but it wasn't meant to be. Although she isn't as good of a candidate and lacks his integrity, Warren should probably run again. She would be a far better choice than anyone the Dems are currently floating.
I agree that Hillary should never ever run again. She remains a completely vile and unlikeable person.

I would have liked to have seen Al Franken run, buuuuttt, they rode him out of town didn't they. I also liked Elliot Spitzer and Andrew Cuomo, buuuuttt their dicks got them in trouble too. They are all done.

Mayor Pete would be a good candidate or Andrew Yang or Mitch Landrieu. I've listened to all of them and they all impress me.

To be honest, I think it's time for a whole new generation of Democrats. It's time to throw out the dead wood and the fossils from the Clinton era and at the top of that list is Hillary and her sexual predator husband.
 
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KDK13

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Why don't we talk about realistic candidates?

Biden should concede the nomination. He's too old to run again. How about De Santis v MI governor Gretchen Whitmer??
Clearly DeSantis is the guy waiting in the wings.
The Dems don't have an heir apparent. A far left candidate will lose. Kamala has not shown anything to suggest she could step up.
Whitmer is good but not sure of the recognition. Gavin Newsome is now running ads in Florida pantsing DeSantis...he intrigues.
Mitch Landrieu too. It has to be a more meat and potatoes Democrat. Social justice warriors will get creamed. Mayor Pete would be a fantastic president, but i agree the gay thing prevents...
 

mandrill

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Clearly DeSantis is the guy waiting in the wings.
The Dems don't have an heir apparent. A far left candidate will lose. Kamala has not shown anything to suggest she could step up.
Whitmer is good but not sure of the recognition. Gavin Newsome is now running ads in Florida pantsing DeSantis...he intrigues.
The Dems are idiots. They should tell Biden that it's not going to happen for him and start grooming someone in the wings to step up with lots of recognition factor. Newsome, Whitmer, whoever.
 

KDK13

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The Dems are idiots. They should tell Biden that it's not going to happen for him and start grooming someone in the wings to step up with lots of recognition factor. Newsome, Whitmer, whoever.
Biden has to wait until last minute to step aside otherwise he gets even less leverage as a lame duck. But he has to step aside when the time is right. Like Lyndon Johnson.
 

HeadNTheClouds

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TBH, I was disappointed by the slate of candidates that the Dems fielded in 2020. Biden parachuted in as the best of a mediocre bunch. I was hoping that the New BHO would come out of nowhere. Instead, we got a pleasant, competent-ish old guy who was more acceptable than Trump.

I would have supported Buttigieg, but his gayness would have killed the Black vote and lost the election.
I supported Bernie all the way. Only candidate I've actually liked in years and easily the best of the bunch in 2020 hands down on any objective measure of policy, voting record etc. After him it would have been Warren for me. Then probably Yang.
 

HeadNTheClouds

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^^^ I agree

I agree that Hillary should never ever run again. She remains a completely vile and unlikeable person.

I would have liked to have seen Al Franken run, buuuuttt, they rode him out of town didn't they. I also liked Elliot Spitzer and Andrew Cuomo, buuuuttt their dicks got them in trouble too. They are all done.

Mayor Pete would be a good candidate or Andrew Yang or Mitch Landrieu. I've listened to all of them and they all impress me.

To be honest, I think it's time for a whole new generation of Democrats. It's time to throw out the dead wood and the fossils from the Clinton era and at the top of that list is Hillary and her sexual predator husband.
I liked Yang because of his UBI stance, but he was shit on foreign policy. Still, I'd have preferred him over Biden or Cuomo or the rest. The only candidates truly worth supporting are those who refrain from taking big Super PAC money, which is only a handful. They are growing though, Justice Democrats are a thing now. I hope to see them field candidates for President in the future.
 
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