Unarmed black man shot at 90 times and hit 60 times at traffic stop

[Anbarandy]

To kill the bad guy. Case closed.

This isn't complicated and this kid is not a martyr.

Most people understand that if they shoot a gun at cops, they're likely to end up shot and killed by cops. It's just not something normal people partake in because it's literally insane.

Only case that is closed, is the mental case.

Black and white is not complicated, I agree. But, 70 plus bullets fired at a then unarmed black man, with dozens unloaded into a a probably already dead prostate on the ground black man is complicated.

Most people understand Forcillo was found guilty of attempted murder for unloading into a probably already dead prostate Yatim on the floor of a streetcar.

Take the mental out of your case .... closed.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

But, 70 plus bullets fired at a then unarmed black man, with dozens unloaded into a a probably already dead prostate on the ground black man is complicated.

It makes no difference if it was 10 or 70 bullets as long as they hit the target. But 70 is better - less left to chance.

Officers assumed, rightfully, that he was armed. Each cop emptied his gun to protect themselves and each other. You add up the shots from each gun from multiple officers and you get lots of bullets. That's not complicated.

You continue to miss important details like the fact that he did have a gun and fired it at police.

Why do you ignore this? It makes you seem like a partial hack with a grudge.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

The guy in Buffalo walked out of the store. Smoking gun in hand. Cops didn't harm a hair on his head.

 

[Anbarandy]

It makes no difference if it was 10 or 70 bullets as long as they hit the target. But 70 is better - less left to chance.

Officers assumed, rightfully, that he was armed. Each cop emptied his gun to protect themselves and each other. You add up the shots from each gun from multiple officers and you get lots of bullets. That's not complicated.

You continue to miss important details like the fact that he did have a gun and fired it at police.

Why do you ignore this? It makes you seem like a impartial hack with a grudge.

^^^^^
Hack much?

I have done a much better and legal job of dispatching you with less than 70 bullets words than the cops did with 70 words bullets.

 

[Nathan 88]

Sounds like the police need to take some target practice!
He was probably dead after the first seven or eight shots that hit him. What was the point of all the other shots.

 

[Anbarandy]

Sounds like the police need to take some target practice!
He was probably dead after the first seven or eight shots that hit him. What was the point of all the other shots.

Attempted murder, perhaps.

 

[GameBoy27]

Different country and different weapon (van versus gun).

Exactly. I don't know how one could see these two cases in the same light. They're not even close.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

^^^^^
Hack much?

I have done a much better and legal job of dispatching you with less than 70 bullets words than the cops did with 70 words bullets.

Legal? This is terb, not a court room. Wtf are you talking about?

If you can't answer the questions bow out with dignity.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

Attempted murder, perhaps.

Let's see how well that charge plays out if and when it does go to court. LOL!

The lesson is simple. Don't shoot at cops if you want to live. Most people don't have this problem because shooting at cops isn't on their bucket list.

 

[GameBoy27]

Black and white is not complicated, I agree. But, 70 plus bullets fired at a then unarmed black man, with dozens unloaded into a a probably already dead prostate on the ground black man is complicated.

The Police know he fired a gun at them. So they know he was armed with a loaded gun. How were they to know he left the gun in his car and didn't have one or two still on him? When he ran, he'd already tried to kill a Police officer. Does that mean nothing to you? Do you hate Cops that much? (I think the answer to that is yes.)

I'd like to know what you'd do in a similar situation after someone fired shots at you. Do you know how often Police officers are shot at, injured and killed annually in the US? It amounts to an officer killed every five days and many more injured.

 

[NotADcotor]

Is that what you'd do, after you fire a few rounds at Police? LOL

I don't often fire shots at the police but when I do...

Unwritten rule #1 for cops. Go home to your family after your shift. Don't get killed by somebody who is armed and has already fired a shot at you...

At that point it doesn't matter how many bullets were fired at the criminal, though they certainly should be enough to make sure he can't shoot back any more.

There is a scene from the movie untouchables about that where an elder cop played by Sean Connery tells the guy that a good shift is one you walk home or something to that effect. A classic scene with another great line, worth a watch.

However if you have to fire off 90 times and need to hit someone 60 times, unless you are firing a pistol from 200 yards away I think there might be a wee issue with fire discipline.
One could fix that with some more training but then, but that gets all wrapped up with the militarization of the police, sadly much like prison sex, the militarization they need they ain't getting and the militarization they are getting they don't need.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

However if you have to fire off 90 times and need to hit someone 60 times, unless you are firing a pistol from 200 yards away I think there might be a wee issue with fire discipline.
One could fix that with some more training but then, but that gets all wrapped up with the militarization of the police, sadly much like prison sex, the militarization they need they ain't getting and the militarization they are getting they don't need.

One officer firing 90 times is excessive. Multiple cops firing 90 bullets in total is not, necessarily.

When you have very good reason to believe a suspect is armed and willing to shoot at you to kill you (because he already attempted to), you shoot until he's out for the count.

A man can be shot many times and still kill you. That's one thing Hollywood does get right in their movies. The bad guy really can keep coming back.

Who would want to work with a colleague that thinks "only two shots per officer guys, there enough of us here so we're bound to hit him. That's how we should be trained. And if we don't, one of us might get killed but those are the breaks."

Someone willing to shoot at cops isn't some innocent schoolboy. He's a serious threat. The level of naivety seems boundless even when we see how dangerous these situations are on camera.

The police can never win. I remember last year or earlier this year when a cop shot and killed a female in a split second decision because the girl had a knife and was about to stab another female. The cop was run through hot coal by some members of the public. Yet if he did not shoot and the girl got stabbed those same people would blame the cop for not protecting her.

 

[GameBoy27]

Who would want to work with a colleague that thinks "only two shots per officer guys, there enough of us here so we're bound to hit him. That's how we should be trained. And if we don't, one of us might get killed but those are the breaks."

Someone willing to shoot at cops isn't some innocent schoolboy. He's a serious threat. The level of naivety seems boundless even when we see how dangerous these situations are on camera.

Yeah, lol. "Only two shots per person guys, so make them count." The way I look at it, if a perp fires shots at a Cop (which is attempted murder) they've got the green light to fire back until they're no longer moving. If the first one kills them, then the next 10 are moot. If the first 9 miss or fail to stop them, they're justified in firing some more. It's so easy for people to sit behind their keyboards and criticize Police for how they react when someone's firing bullets at them. I don't feel sorry for someone who shoots at Police and ends up dead. These animals have zero concern for human life to begin with.

The police can never win. I remember last year or earlier this year when a cop shot and killed a female in a split second decision because the girl had a knife and was about to kill another female. The cop was run through hot coal by some members of the public. Yet if he did not shoot and the girl got stabbed those same people would blame the cop for not protecting her.

So true! I'm getting really tired of listening to people siding with the gunmen and criminals who shoot at Police. Why would anyone side with them?

How many times have you heard "Those horrible Police. Why did they have to shoot my son. He was such a good boy. He didn't deserve to die. The Police must be charged with murder." Your good son tried to kill a Police officer. What did you think was going to happen to him?

 

[danmand]

I am always amazed at how many members wish for the good old times of the estate and the KGB. I wonder how they would enjoy living under an authoritarian regime.

 

[NotADcotor]

Yeah, lol. "Only two shots per person guys, so make them count."

I thought the standard practice was two to the center of mass [chest] and 1 to the head.

 

[K Douglas]

Ironically, they were trying to arrest him on a prior Jay Walking warrant.

Is that supposed to be funny? Don't quit your day job.

 

[K Douglas]

I am always amazed at how many members wish for the good old times of the estate and the KGB. I wonder how they would enjoy living under an authoritarian regime.

We are. Its called the Trudeau and Biden administrations.