USSC strikes down Roe v Wade

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It will be interesting if one of the married, horny politicians knocks up a staff member or a woman.
There will be a new song to sing for sure.
 

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And they say cancel culture only happens by the libs?

On top of that they overturned state law right regarding guns. From now on it will be possible to wear one in public places. But except at gop and maga rally where it's prohibited because damn the right are just a bunch of incredible hypocrites...!!!
 
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It will be interesting if one of the married, horny politicians knocks up a staff member or a woman. There will be a new song to sing for sure.
Bleak joke of the Day:Matt Gaetz will have to take out a coat hanger on his teenage girlfriends.
 
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Donald Trump nominated 3 young Supreme Court justices. Age 50, 54 and 57. He changed the political makeup of the Supreme Court, potentially for the next 20 or more years.
Pretty much my age!

Crazy to think I still bang girl in their 20's, do gangbang, orgies and participate in parties where I bang the wife of dudes with them watching :p

They are in their early 50's but with a mentality of 85 year old religious old fart!

Stay young guys. And fight any way you can these old fuckers who are trying to prevent us from inserting our dick in beautiful girl!!!
 

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Sometimes Howard has the old fire. They're going after orphanages next.The Handmaid's Tale isn't that far off.

What Howard said was so fucking true. If men were the ones having babies, abortions would be routine and normal, they would be on every corner street.

Also, what he said: Men were the ones [especially conservatives] who were angrily complaining about their rights to not wear a mask. How would they react if you forced them to carry a baby they don't want?
 

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Peter Mansbridge said in his Sirius Canada broadcast that the Religious Right in the USA are not Pro Life, they are Pro Birth. They couldn't care less what happens to the child after it leaves the mother's womb. In fact they have consistently cut funding to orphanages. The most expensive burden on tax payers is unwanted children...and the American Oligarchs wont be the ones paying for them.

...some will be sold for body parts to the entitled class.

 
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Power to the people!
Not really, if you consider women people.

But maybe that is the next shoe to drop from the Supreme Court:. Voting rights for women is returned to the states to decide." The Constitution does not explicitely say women has a right to vote"
Oh yeah, and coloured people.
 

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^^^ I've been saying exactly this for years, even the term "probirth"

I wonder if Pete is on Terb?
 
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It will be interesting if one of the married, horny politicians knocks up a staff member or a woman.
There will be a new song to sing for sure.
I am more the concerned for the safety of women who decide, “better not” with this random, and end up raped.

I am concerned for the women who end up pregnant from a guy who comes to the sobering conclusion he is on the hook for the next 20 years… and decides to run, or resorts to violence.

I am concerned for the women who are too poor to travel across states lines and get hurt during an “at home” procedure.

And sadly, I am deeply concerned for the women the GOP have deemed too dangerous for society, and throw in jail to make examples of.

The fucking hypocrites hide behind family values…
 

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To really discuss this properly we have to clear away some platitudes and acknowledge some science.

Women keep chanting her body her choice. Except the thing that is most effected by an abortion is not her body. From the moment of conception, the embryo has a distinct DNA sequence that is unique from the Mother's or the Father's. This makes the fetus a completely separate Genetic entity unto itself. So it is not a part of the Mother's body that is being Destroyed. It is completely separate.
So genetically this has less to do with the Mother's body than it does a separate entity.

It is a unique, genetic Human entity that is undergoing cellular growth. A process that continues uninterrupted starting from the moment of conception, and continuing for the next 24 to 25 years. Until the process stops and the cells simply divide to maintain, or we start slowly dying.
This process does not make any distinctions from conception to trimesters to 9 months of existence. Yet if we forcibly end this process in a human being after 9 months, it is considered an act of killing. If the process we are ending doesn't distinguish between 9 months of existence, why does our definition of stopping that process?

Having said all that, I am in full support of Abortion. However, I think we need to expand the limits of when abortions can be performed.
How can a Mother make an informed decision if she wants to have the child, in strictly the first three months after conception? That is ridiculous.
To make a truly informed decision the Mother needs to try being a Mother for a bit. Try it out and see.

So maybe it should be legal to abort up to 12 months after conception. So Mom can experience the baby first if she so chooses.

Or wait. Maybe we should raise the abortion limit to 2 years. Cause then she experiences the terrible twos, now that would let her really decide if she wants to keep going with the whole parenting thing.

Actually, maybe we should make abortion available until 5 years. Cause then you really start to get a sense of if the child is going to be too much of a handful. Then the Mom can really take advantage of getting all the information to make an informed choice.

But.....you know. In thinking about it, maybe we should allow abortion up until 13 years, cause then you really start to know if the kid is becoming an asshole. And that, is really the information the Mother needs to make a proper choice. Plus think of how many sociatal issues that would solve being able to abort a bunch of teenagers when you can clearly see they are just going to wind up in prison.

So, there we go. Seeing as how we are going to interrupt the cellular growth process of a distinct human entity and kill it anyway, I think we should revise the time limit up to 13 years, so the Mother can chose to really have all the necessary info to make the right choice.
 
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To really discuss this properly we have to clear away some platitudes and acknowledge some science.

Women keep chanting her body her choice. Except the thing that is most effected by an abortion is not her body. From the moment of conception, the embryo has a distinct DNA sequence that is unique from the Mother's or the Father's. This makes the fetus a completely separate Genetic entity unto itself. So it is not a part of the Mother's body that is being Destroyed. It is completely separate.
So genetically this has less to do with the Mother's body than it does a separate entity.

It is a unique, genetic Human entity that is undergoing cellular growth. A process that continues uninterrupted starting from the moment of conception, and continuing for the next 24 to 25 years. Until the process stops and the cells simply divide to maintain, or we start slowly dying.
This process does not make any distinctions from conception to trimesters to 9 months of existence. Yet if we forcibly end this process in a human being after 9 months, it is considered an act of killing. If the process we are ending doesn't distinguish between 9 months of existence, why does our definition of stopping that process?

Having said all that, I am in full support of Abortion. However, I think we need to expand the limits of when abortions can be performed.
How can a Mother make an informed decision if she wants to have the child, in strictly the first three months after conception? That is ridiculous.
To make a truly informed decision the Mother needs to try being a Mother for a bit. Try it out and see.

So maybe it should be legal to abort up to 12 months after conception. So Mom can experience the baby first if she so chooses.

Or wait. Maybe we should raise the abortion limit to 2 years. Cause then she experiences the terrible twos, now that would let her really decide if she wants to keep going with the whole parenting thing.

Actually, maybe we should make abortion available until 5 years. Cause then you really start to get a sense of if the child is going to be too much of a handful. Then the Mom can really take advantage of getting all the information to make an informed choice.

But.....you know. In thinking about it, maybe we should allow abortion up until 13 years, cause then you really start to know if the kid is becoming an asshole. And that, is really the information the Mother needs to make a proper choice. Plus think of how many sociatal issues that would solve being able to abort a bunch of teenagers when you can clearly see they are just going to wind up in prison.

So, there we go. Seeing as how we are going to interrupt the cellular growth process of a distinct human entity and kill it anyway, I think we should revise the time limit up to 13 years, so the Mother can chose to really have all the necessary info to make the right choice.
please share your thoughts on contraception and same-sex marriage
 

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please share your thoughts on contraception and same-sex marriage
No Issue with either of them. And I think the opinion of a single Justice is a little too early to get one's knickers in a knot.

Interestingly, everyone is denouncing the States. All this decision has done is make the States exactly like Canada is now.
This ruling has simply made it so each State can make the legal decision for themselves.
Canada is the same. We have absolutely no law enshrining abortion as a charter right.
There is basically nothing stopping a Province from making abortion against the law in that particular Province.
And it has been this way in Canada since 1988.

If enough people in a State want Abortion, it will be made legal. And if enough people don't then it won't. That's the way it has been in Canada for 34 years.
 
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To really discuss this properly we have to clear away some platitudes and acknowledge some science.

Women keep chanting her body her choice. Except the thing that is most effected by an abortion is not her body. From the moment of conception, the embryo has a distinct DNA sequence that is unique from the Mother's or the Father's. This makes the fetus a completely separate Genetic entity unto itself. So it is not a part of the Mother's body that is being Destroyed. It is completely separate.
So genetically this has less to do with the Mother's body than it does a separate entity.

It is a unique, genetic Human entity that is undergoing cellular growth. A process that continues uninterrupted starting from the moment of conception, and continuing for the next 24 to 25 years. Until the process stops and the cells simply divide to maintain, or we start slowly dying.
This process does not make any distinctions from conception to trimesters to 9 months of existence. Yet if we forcibly end this process in a human being after 9 months, it is considered an act of killing. If the process we are ending doesn't distinguish between 9 months of existence, why does our definition of stopping that process?

Having said all that, I am in full support of Abortion. However, I think we need to expand the limits of when abortions can be performed.
How can a Mother make an informed decision if she wants to have the child, in strictly the first three months after conception? That is ridiculous.
To make a truly informed decision the Mother needs to try being a Mother for a bit. Try it out and see.

So maybe it should be legal to abort up to 12 months after conception. So Mom can experience the baby first if she so chooses.

Or wait. Maybe we should raise the abortion limit to 2 years. Cause then she experiences the terrible twos, now that would let her really decide if she wants to keep going with the whole parenting thing.

Actually, maybe we should make abortion available until 5 years. Cause then you really start to get a sense of if the child is going to be too much of a handful. Then the Mom can really take advantage of getting all the information to make an informed choice.

But.....you know. In thinking about it, maybe we should allow abortion up until 13 years, cause then you really start to know if the kid is becoming an asshole. And that, is really the information the Mother needs to make a proper choice. Plus think of how many sociatal issues that would solve being able to abort a bunch of teenagers when you can clearly see they are just going to wind up in prison.

So, there we go. Seeing as how we are going to interrupt the cellular growth process of a distinct human entity and kill it anyway, I think we should revise the time limit up to 13 years, so the Mother can chose to really have all the necessary info to make the right choice.
Your opening argument is the first fallacy. It’s not about “her body being destroyed”. It’s about her body. A woman should have the right to decide if she wants to have children. Full stop.
 
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This is the first the SCOTUS has taken away a right.
 

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It's an unsurprising decision that's been inevitable for some time now. It will not result in abortions being completely unlawful in more than a handful of states. It will result in different thresholds for lawful abortions in different states. The large states (NY, California) where the most abortions take place will remain so. As a result, most women who want abortions in the United States will continue to be able to get them. The few states where abortions will become unlawful in all circumstances will have to deal with the consequences (both social and economic). We'll find out in 20 years or so whether they made the best decision for their society.

Whatever the long term result, it is a decision each state is entitled to make for themselves.
 
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