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Too Woke? San Fran school board removes 'chief' from its job titles

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When do the woke police take it too far? Almost always ..they make me barf.

Apparently, a San Francisco school district is being asked that very question by removing the word “chief” from its job titles out of respect for Native Americans according to Daily Mail.
The San Francisco Unified School District has yet to say what word will replace it but added it’s listened to the suggestions of its 10,000 employees.

Neal Alexander Walker, from the Western Institute for Endangered Language Documentation, told Daily Mail he would feel uncomfortable using the word.

Walker’s wife and child are Native American and he’s worked with tribes for decades.
Still, he also suggested the school district may just be trying to grab some headlines with its new edict.

“A cynical person might say that the school district’s measure is more about grandstanding and seeking to appear to do something that costs zero physical capital and can only increase social capital among a certain socio-economic group in the Bay Area,” Walker told Daily Mail.

“However, if students and students’ parents within the district were expressing concerns over the use of the word chief, a more generous person might argue that the district made an appropriate decision,” he said.

The San Francisco Chronicle said the decision came after concerns were raised by Native American community members.

Many people on social media pointed out that “chief” comes from the French term chef, which originates from the Latin word caput and has nothing to do with First Nations people.

 
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Yes, absolutely. There is always somebody who will take just about anything to bizarre extremes. Doesn't make "woke" a dirty word, though...
 
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unreal, waaay to woke, "Chief" does not pertain to native north americans exclusively, it's originates from the the french word "Chef" meaning the head of a group.
 

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Nope. Nothing bad happened by changing some terminology. Nobody was hurt. Nobody took a pay cut or lost their job. And if it triggers Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones, even better. And if you are one of the ones botching about something that has no effect on you or your life what do ever, ask yourself, why are you so “offended”?
 

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Nope. Nothing bad happened by changing some terminology. Nobody was hurt. Nobody took a pay cut or lost their job. And if it triggers Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones, even better. And if you are one of the ones botching about something that has no effect on you or your life what do ever, ask yourself, why are you so “offended”?
A guy who used to be my boss would say it's majoring in minors. Your no harm whatsoever comments apply equally to just leaving it the fuck alone in this case. Reminds me of those folks who were offended by the word niggardly - you could look it up...
 
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A guy who used to be my boss would say it's majoring in minors. Your no harm whatsoever comments apply equally to just leaving it the fuck alone in this case. Reminds me of those folks who were offended by the word niggardly - you could look it up...
You might be right. I say “might” because I have no clue how the discussion was even brought up… or what the criteria was.

I’m movin on with my day now. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Mass shooting, inflation, war in Ukraine, but I'm sure it's more hurtful to some people that a school on the other side of the continent changes job titles.

p.s. I'm pretty sure that schools in Ontario did the same a few years back.
 
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Nope. Nothing bad happened by changing some terminology. Nobody was hurt. Nobody took a pay cut or lost their job. And if it triggers Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones, even better. And if you are one of the ones botching about something that has no effect on you or your life what do ever, ask yourself, why are you so “offended”?
Flat earthers have no impact on my life, but they irk me.
Ditto those who take astrology seriously and other forms of new age bullshittery.
I am no homo but people who go around beating on the yes homo is fucked up
Ditto for those who shoot up the place in the US. No impact on me.
All those white people concerned about cops killing black criminals [mostly in self defense] I guess they should shut the fuck up to.
Hell Paul Bernardo never touched anyone I know right...

Hell I get offended by bad policy in the SPQR and Ancient Greece. It's OK to give a fuck about things that don't impact you.

Also if you think that sort of bullshittery doesn't spread... they renamed Ryerson university and they guy was actually pro native as fuck and well respected. Oh wait, I never went there and don't live in Toronto so I guess I should ignore it.

Brah, it's a pretty shitty attitude. Changing the name was a high level of bullshittery and bullshittery should be challenged.






Before anyone derps on, no I am not calling the actions above Nazis, the poem is about indifference.
 
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Flat earthers have no impact on my life, but they irk me.
Ditto those who take astrology seriously and other forms of new age bullshittery.
I am no homo but people who go around beating on the yes homo is fucked up
Ditto for those who shoot up the place in the US. No impact on me.
All those white people concerned about cops killing black criminals [mostly in self defense] I guess they should shut the fuck up to.
Hell Paul Bernardo never touched anyone I know right...

Hell I get offended by bad policy in the SPQR and Ancient Greece. It's OK to give a fuck about things that don't impact you.

Also if you think that sort of bullshittery doesn't spread... they renamed Ryerson university and they guy was actually pro native as fuck and well respected. Oh wait, I never went there and don't live in Toronto so I guess I should ignore it.

Brah, it's a pretty shitty attitude. Changing the name was a high level of bullshittery and bullshittery should be challenged.






Before anyone derps on, no I am not calling the actions above Nazis, the poem is about indifference.
But “flat earthers” do have an impact on society. They deny basic science, and hold us up as a species. Big difference.

Astrology… I tend to agree with you, but admittedly, I have never been to “the great beyond”.

Not sure about Ryerson being “Pro Native as fuck”. I will agree, history, and it people are complicated. Ryerson set up the Residential School system… we know better now. He has to own that.

Let’s not pretend though that why it bothers you. I think we’re at the point where if one group has an opinion, the other group automatically has the opposite. I see the posting history. It’s not hard to determine who is going to think what, and who will and won’t chime in.

I myself have fallen into that category a few times. However, I don’t see the world strictly down political lines. I lean left socially, but I supported Trumps stand against China. Not a fan of religion, but China needs to relax on the Uyghurs. Trudeau does suck… and even though Climate Change is real, the Carbon tax is not a great plan. Evidence would suggest it is not working.

Still… Too Woke? Nope. As a matter of fact, what a dumb term. To woke? You either awake or not. After coffee this morning we’re you too awake? I mean, you either see the truth or not. Is understanding fortune tellers are con artists “too smart”?

More bullshit political character assignation speak from the political right.
 

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As long as you say "peoplekind" instead of "mankind", you're good. No complaints from the left.
 

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And people on the idiot left can't understand why folks in the middle don't like them...
This sort of story feeds them.
 

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San Francisco has evolved into the worst example of woke ideology.

It 's beyond reason the depths that this city has sunk to into the name liberal progressives.

Too bad because at one time it was magnificent.........But that was long ago now.
 
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But “flat earthers” do have an impact on society. They deny basic science, and hold us up as a species. Big difference.

Astrology… I tend to agree with you, but admittedly, I have never been to “the great beyond”.

Not sure about Ryerson being “Pro Native as fuck”. I will agree, history, and it people are complicated. Ryerson set up the Residential School system… we know better now. He has to own that.

Let’s not pretend though that why it bothers you. I think we’re at the point where if one group has an opinion, the other group automatically has the opposite. I see the posting history. It’s not hard to determine who is going to think what, and who will and won’t chime in.

I myself have fallen into that category a few times. However, I don’t see the world strictly down political lines. I lean left socially, but I supported Trumps stand against China. Not a fan of religion, but China needs to relax on the Uyghurs. Trudeau does suck… and even though Climate Change is real, the Carbon tax is not a great plan. Evidence would suggest it is not working.

Still… Too Woke? Nope. As a matter of fact, what a dumb term. To woke? You either awake or not. After coffee this morning we’re you too awake? I mean, you either see the truth or not. Is understanding fortune tellers are con artists “too smart”?

More bullshit political character assignation speak from the political right.
Flat eathers are an irrelevance.

Ryerson was not a propnent of the residential school system as it was set up, he was keen on Native education but this is not a bad thing, also he was dead before it got underway and it seems he would not have liked how it went down.
Apparently although I haven't looked into it, the same thing happened to Dundas. Of course owning slaves is cool if you are the correct race cough cough Brant cough

I am not sure what you mean by pretending to be bothered. If my posting history shows anything it is that I have a low tolerance for bullshittery, Woketards, Trumptards, covidiots, Jebus cultists etc. I don't see the world down strictly political lines, I pretty much dislike them all for one reason or another. I mean I do have views and positions but they are not part of some cult.
Carbon tax is the best way to go, if it isn't making a difference it is because it isn't high enough, don't like TrueDooh but on that heIt absolutely was right.

Woke in this context doesn't mean awake. Woke much like Trump is where truth goes to die. If you can't see why getting rid of the word chief in this context is bullshit, well that is a problem.
Neither left nor right are in any position to put down the other wise, they just don't see it. That also makes me sad/angry.
 

NotADcotor

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And people on the idiot left can't understand why folks in the middle don't like them...
This sort of story feeds them.
People cheered when Biden won. I'd be much more terrified as to why it wasn't a 2/3 to 1/3 victory instead of a few percentage points. He should have been able to bend Trump over the hood of his car and made sweet sweet love to his anus, and make Trump like it.
Stuff like this is part of the problem and they are blind to it. Both parties are being dragged down by their extremists.
 

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Flat eathers are an irrelevance.

Ryerson was not a propnent of the residential school system as it was set up, he was keen on Native education but this is not a bad thing, also he was dead before it got underway and it seems he would not have liked how it went down.
Apparently although I haven't looked into it, the same thing happened to Dundas. Of course owning slaves is cool if you are the correct race cough cough Brant cough

I am not sure what you mean by pretending to be bothered. If my posting history shows anything it is that I have a low tolerance for bullshittery, Woketards, Trumptards, covidiots, Jebus cultists etc. I don't see the world down strictly political lines, I pretty much dislike them all for one reason or another. I mean I do have views and positions but they are not part of some cult.
Carbon tax is the best way to go, if it isn't making a difference it is because it isn't high enough, don't like TrueDooh but on that heIt absolutely was right.

Woke in this context doesn't mean awake. Woke much like Trump is where truth goes to die. If you can't see why getting rid of the word chief in this context is bullshit, well that is a problem.
Neither left nor right are in any position to put down the other wise, they just don't see it. That also makes me sad/angry.

The Dorchester Review is an opinion peice at best

The National Post is become little more than a right wing rag with glorified opinion pieces posing as news.
 

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Flat eathers are an irrelevance.

Ryerson was not a propnent of the residential school system as it was set up, he was keen on Native education but this is not a bad thing, also he was dead before it got underway and it seems he would not have liked how it went down.
Apparently although I haven't looked into it, the same thing happened to Dundas. Of course owning slaves is cool if you are the correct race cough cough Brant cough

I am not sure what you mean by pretending to be bothered. If my posting history shows anything it is that I have a low tolerance for bullshittery, Woketards, Trumptards, covidiots, Jebus cultists etc. I don't see the world down strictly political lines, I pretty much dislike them all for one reason or another. I mean I do have views and positions but they are not part of some cult.
Carbon tax is the best way to go, if it isn't making a difference it is because it isn't high enough, don't like TrueDooh but on that heIt absolutely was right.

Woke in this context doesn't mean awake. Woke much like Trump is where truth goes to die. If you can't see why getting rid of the word chief in this context is bullshit, well that is a problem.
Neither left nor right are in any position to put down the other wise, they just don't see it. That also makes me sad/angry.

And I think you are confusing the terms "educate"... and "Colonize". Teaching anyone religion is "miseducation".
 

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Before anyone derps on, no I am not calling the actions above Nazis, the poem is about indifference.
And yes, using a Holocaust poem to rant about some organization changing job titles is a pretty pathetic attempt at victimhood. But I'm sure you can explain to me who's human rights are harmed by changing a job title from "Chief Operating Officer" to "Lead Operating Officer"?
 

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You might be right. I say “might” because I have no clue how the discussion was even brought up… or what the criteria was.

I’m movin on with my day now. 🤷‍♂️
I usually get some kind of clue reading the thread title...
 

y2kmark

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unreal, waaay to woke, "Chief" does not pertain to native north americans exclusively, it's originates from the the french word "Chef" meaning the head of a group.
Hold the line Canada! You don't want all the chefs in Quebec to have to figure out a new name, do you? Let's hope ultra woke historians don't determine that St. Lawrence was a baddie...
 
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