Abortion Poll
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Disposable? So using emotionally laden terms when arguments fail?
But yes, in Canadian law, abortion is the mother's choice and it is not murder. Even late term abortions are allowed here but they require a doctor who thinks it is required to perform it. So yes, my opinion that it is the mother's choice until viability is also the law of the land here.
And the definition? I do lean towards science specific resources for definitions of scientific terms.
CDC: A parasite is an organism that lives on or in a host organism and gets its food from or at the expense of its host.
CDC - Parasites - About Parasites
A parasite is an organism that lives on or in a host and gets its food from or at the expense of its host. Parasites can cause disease in humans.
From a biology resource:
Parasitism is s form of symbiosis in which one organism (called parasite) benefits at the expense of another organism usually of different species (called host). This host-parasite association may eventuate to the injury of the host.
Note that is says USUALLY of a different species, not ALWAYS from a different species.
And if you want, here are a whole bunch of papers on parasitism.
Parasitism - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics
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Question: Would anyone dare say to a pregnant woman: "You have a parasite living in your womb"?
A fetus or zygote is not a parasite just because it acts in some similar manner to one. A fetus is the creation between human egg and sperm... no parasite is created this way. A fetus is carried usually for 9 months and leaves the womb as a baby. A parasite doesn't do this. A baby requires love, food, and shelter from its parents (quite "parasitic" too) but is not a parasite.Disposable? So using emotionally laden terms when arguments fail?
But yes, in Canadian law, abortion is the mother's choice and it is not murder. Even late term abortions are allowed here but they require a doctor who thinks it is required to perform it. So yes, my opinion that it is the mother's choice until viability is also the law of the land here.
And the definition? I do lean towards science specific resources for definitions of scientific terms.
CDC: A parasite is an organism that lives on or in a host organism and gets its food from or at the expense of its host.
CDC - Parasites - About Parasites
A parasite is an organism that lives on or in a host and gets its food from or at the expense of its host. Parasites can cause disease in humans.www.cdc.gov
From a biology resource:
Parasitism is s form of symbiosis in which one organism (called parasite) benefits at the expense of another organism usually of different species (called host). This host-parasite association may eventuate to the injury of the host.
Note that is says USUALLY of a different species, not ALWAYS from a different species.
And if you want, here are a whole bunch of papers on parasitism.
Parasitism - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics
The lengths that some will go to justify harm and death.
Stop this nonsense. It's invalid.
Please show me some biological sources that say a parasite can not be the same species as the host? The ones I already gave say otherwise.
Meanwhile the GOP is even against surgery even in the case of ectopic pregnancy when the fertilized egg implants in the fallopian tubes even though the embryo can't survive and the mother faces severe medical complications.
Typical Republican
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Rape Victims Should Be Forced to Have Rapist's Baby, GOP Gov. Openly States
"They're still babies." Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts said he would pursue a total abortion ban in his state if Roe v. Wade is overturned.
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GOP governor says that rape victims should have to carry child to term - CNN Video
Nebraska Governor Pete Ricketts (R) says he agrees that there should not be exceptions for rape or incest in anti-abortion laws.
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Maybe all those Republicans blaming Biden for shortages of baby formula should see continuing Roe as a way to help.
This. This right here.
I never understand why people think it's such a cut and dry issue. It's not. It's one of the thorniest moral dilemmas we have.
Abortion effectively ends a viable life. That's not something to be taken lightly. From a logical standpoint, you can understand why someone might call that murder.
On the flip side, there's no denying that an unplanned pregnancy is a life changing event for a woman, rife with responsibilities, not the least of which is lugging around a second human in your body for 40 weeks. Not to mention the psychological impact of an unwanted baby being raised by unwilling parents.
Then there's edge cases that muddy the waters further, like rape and incest.
Anyone who thinks it's a clean cut argument obviously isn't trying to have a reasonable discussion about a tricky topic.
Agree. Bear in mind that polls by their nature are basically "for or against", "yes or no". However, the comments from members add further input on a complex issue.
Live Action on Instagram: "A pro-abort woman on Tiktok tells her infant daughter: “I could have killed you, but I chose to let you live. Yes, I realize what I just said, and I stand by it.” Abortion activists know abortion kills a child, yet they continue to promote evil, horrific violence. Shameful."
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It is, but its a personal choice for women, none of whom treat it lightly.
Wanking off ends 'viable' possibilities of life. Should that be banned? Imagine if women ruled and they said no more wanking.
None of whom treat it lightly? That's like saying all cops are professional, self-sacrificing individuals. It's idealized thinking that's not reflective of reality. The correct statement would be to say the majority of said women don't treat it lightly.
I don't agree with your logic. Neither taking action and wanking, nor inaction and not wanking, result in or deny life. The act of having sex is what makes life viable. Once fertilization occurs, in most cases, that life will come to fruition unless directly intervened with.
This is simpleton worldview/logic.
Gotta love the results of this poll taken in liberal Canada.
"The issue is settled", they said.
"It's 2022, everybody is pro-abortion", they said.
So much for that hot take.
Ok, 'majority' is likely more accurate. But I haven't met any women who has every discussed or used abortion lightly. Feel free to prove me wrong with some studies or polls.
I stretched a metaphor only to give you at least one possible thought of other sex controlling our own bodies.
Since compassion seems too far out of the reach of most of those in this thread.
Keep in mind that I am not pro-life, but I do understand the other side of the issue. And frankly, I don't see how people can not understand it, even if they ultimately fall pro-choice, so long as they make any sort of effort. You talk about compassion as it pertains to a woman's body. Well, they see it as compassion as it pertains to an unborn baby. As I said, it's a thorny issue, specifically because of the ramifications either way.
