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20% of men are having sex with 80% of the women.
An average woman can get sex anytime she wants but an average man cannot.
How are top 20% meeting 80% of the women? It can't all be dating apps because... Once you have a first round of matches on Tinder/Bumble, you're shown fewer and fewer matches regardless of how popular you might be.

Some guys try to get around this by having burner phones with additional tinder accounts but this doesn't work because Tinder detects it as a duplicate account and bans it plus original account.

How do top guys meet girls if tinder will only give you one round of matches?
 

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Good answer. I wouldn’t mess with this guy, he reminds me of the Riddler in the new Batman 😂


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How are top 20% meeting 80% of the women? It can't all be dating apps because... Once you have a first round of matches on Tinder/Bumble, you're shown fewer and fewer matches regardless of how popular you might be.

Some guys try to get around this by having burner phones with additional tinder accounts but this doesn't work because Tinder detects it as a duplicate account and bans it plus original account.

How do top guys meet girls if tinder will only give you one round of matches?
They walk right up and talk to them.
 

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There is no such thing as free fun/sex even outside of the adult industry. If a guy puts gas in his car to drive to his booty call he just paid for sex. If he takes her out to dinner and pays the bill and they fuck later, then he just paid for sex. If he buys her any gifts and somewhere down the road she’s warmed up to him enough to have sex because of his thoughtful and generous gestures over time then he just paid for sex. If a guy marries a woman and now she owns half of everything then guess what? Lol

You don’t have to put money directly in a womans hand to pay for sex/fun lol that’s just the way of the world. Seeing an escort allows a man to cut to the chase and get exactly what he wants up front without all the extra frills and hurdles and courting it usually takes to see a non-escort.
Amen to this post! This is what i tell everyone i meet who thinks paying for sex is wrong. Every man does it in some way shape or form. Paying an sp is no different then spoiling a civi girlfriend who sleeps with you
 

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Amen to this post! This is what i tell everyone i meet who thinks paying for sex is wrong. Every man does it in some way shape or form. Paying an sp is no different then spoiling a civi girlfriend who sleeps with you
“Every man does it in some way shape or form.” This is honestly a weak premise to justify paying for sex even I wouldn’t use this.

There is a huge difference between paying an escort to go to dinner with you as a service vs taking a civilian out for dinner. You would be kidding yourself otherwise.

There’s validational sex (sex by choice and genuine desire) and transactional sex. A civilian is with you because she wants to. An escort with you because you are paying her.
 

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“Every man does it in some way shape or form.” This is honestly a weak premise to justify paying for sex even I wouldn’t use this.

There is a huge difference between paying an escort to go to dinner with you as a service vs taking a civilian out for dinner. You would be kidding yourself otherwise.

There’s validational sex (sex by choice and genuine desire) and transactional sex. A civilian is with you because she wants to. An escort with you because you are paying her.
Fair points i guess. Just a different perspective. Will agree to disagree on this one 🙂
 
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“Every man does it in some way shape or form.” This is honestly a weak premise to justify paying for sex even I wouldn’t use this.

There is a huge difference between paying an escort to go to dinner with you as a service vs taking a civilian out for dinner. You would be kidding yourself otherwise.

There’s validational sex (sex by choice and genuine desire) and transactional sex. A civilian is with you because she wants to. An escort with you because you are paying her.
Just because there is a genuine desire from your civi girlfriend does not negate the fact that you still pay to some degree. Desire or not being in a loving relationship is not free.


Also if you’re not in a relationship and you take a civi girl out, there’s no guarantee that she will sleep with you at the end of the night. If you have a girlfriend then I don’t see why anyone would pay an escort unless they really just want some variety of women who won’t get too clingy so they can go home to their girlfriends without worrying we will call them down or show up at their door step.

I’m also talking about courting a girl you are interested in sleeping with. You can take her out to dinner or take her out on dates, pay for it all, buy her gifts and flowers etc and still never get to see so much as a nipple. You pay for an escort and you can have an equally great time and get some porn star action by the end of the night. You go on the date knowing exactly what you’re getting from the start instead of hoping and wishing upon a star that you will get lucky. There is nothing wrong with transactional sex and the fact that this board exists at all and is still running just proves that.

At the end of the day, either way you spin it you are still paying for sex whether there is genuine desire or it’s a transaction.
 
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There is no such thing as free fun/sex even outside of the adult industry. If a guy puts gas in his car to drive to his booty call he just paid for sex. If he takes her out to dinner and pays the bill and they fuck later, then he just paid for sex. If he buys her any gifts and somewhere down the road she’s warmed up to him enough to have sex because of his thoughtful and generous gestures over time then he just paid for sex. If a guy marries a woman and now she owns half of everything then guess what? Lol

You don’t have to put money directly in a womans hand to pay for sex/fun lol that’s just the way of the world. Seeing an escort allows a man to cut to the chase and get exactly what he wants up front without all the extra frills and hurdles and courting it usually takes to see a non-escort.
it,s sad to realize that human interaction including sex is seen as strickly transactional
 
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Covid has caused an uptick for sure. Being isolated for so long without human contact is detrimental to everyone regardless of age. And I’m amazed anyone who’s been in any kind of relationship casual or otherwise would honestly believe there is such a thing as “free fun” 🙄
The most expensive lady usually turns out to be the one you don't pay for...
 

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it,s sad to realize that human interaction including sex is seen as strickly transactional
It doesnt have to be sad if you look at it from the right perspective. At the end of the day most things in this world costs money. Sex is just one of those things. I dont know of many women who are going to let you have sex with them unless there getting something in return. It doesnt need to be simply transactional. From my experience with some sp's who i have been seeing for years now it never ever seems transactional. I know for a fact we both genuinely enjoy each others company and the sex is just a bonus and its because we both want to be intimate with each other regardless of the money exchanged.
 
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I'm not under 30 any longer, but I started seeing SPs in my 20s. This is for two reasons.

One, the physical side is so much easier to simply see an SP than to go to the trouble of dating.

Two, I've always been opposed to looking for the companionship side, preferring it to just happen naturally. I haven't once used a dating app or other dating mechanisms, and prefer to keep that record. All my previous girlfriends, and my current one for that matter, I met through circumstance and hit if off with. And in the meantime, SPs fill part of that void.
 
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Just because there is a genuine desire from your civi girlfriend does not negate the fact that you still pay to some degree. Desire or not being in a loving relationship is not free.
I think you are missing my argument. I’m not saying that a civi relationship is free. I already agreed with you that both seeing escorts and romantic relationships both cost money. My argument is spending time with a civilian lady and spending time with with an escort are two completely different worlds. Spending money in both worlds does not make it the same world. In Other words, just because money is spent in those two different relationships, doesn’t mean the circumstances of those relationships are exactly the same.


Also if you’re not in a relationship and you take a civi girl out, there’s no guarantee that she will sleep with you at the end of the night. If you have a girlfriend then I don’t see why anyone would pay an escort unless they really just want some variety of women who won’t get too clingy so they can go home to their girlfriends without worrying we will call them down or show up at their door step.

For dates, I may or may not be able to sleep with her at the end of the night. The main difference between between taking a civilian out for dinner vs taking an escort out for dinner is that for taking out a civilian, she chose to agree to go out with me on her own time and I am talking to her true self. With escorts, the sex is basically guaranteed. However, most escorts will only reveal a small glimpse of their true self to me. I will know nothing about their personal life no matter how many times I see them. Escorts may glamorize their appearance far better than most civilians for themselves but I see is a fantasy character.



I could text a civilian and she will use her own time to text me back which feels good that I am worth a woman’s time. An escort won’t text me back unless I book an appointment with her or e-transfer her. That’s the difference.


I’m also talking about courting a girl you are interested in sleeping with. You can take her out to dinner or take her out on dates, pay for it all, buy her gifts and flowers etc and still never get to see so much as a nipple.


I don’t know any man who does this.



You pay for an escort and you can have an equally great time and get some porn star action by the end of the night. You go on the date knowing exactly what you’re getting from the start instead of hoping and wishing upon a star that you will get lucky. There is nothing wrong with transactional sex and the fact that this board exists at all and is still running just proves that.



At the end of the day, either way you spin it you are still paying for sex whether there is genuine desire or it’s a transaction.
To conclude, My argument isn’t “transactional sex is wrong”. My argument is simply romantic relationships and escort/client relationships aren’t exactly the same just because money is spent on both relationships.

P.S not a bad discussion
 
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Where'd you meet them ?
Restricting to the three most serious.... I met my university girlfriend at a party with mutual friends. Got talking and hit it off. Dated for three years before she moved back to Europe. Then I dated another girl in my mid 20s who I met when walking my dog up at my parent's cottage. Found out she lived near me and we both agreed we should meet up. That woman was a real smokeshow too! But ultimately I canned that one after a couple years because it never would have worked long-term. She was very, very extroverted and I'm not.

My current girlfriend I met kayaking with a group. The more I got to know her the more in common we had, so that one's still going strong two years later.
 
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Salt and pepper daddies are sexy as fuck. Us younger ladies are wet for guys 40+ these days!
Well that’s good to hear as a50yo guy. How about the dad bod though? Would you still date me even though I look kinda like Tony Soprano?
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it,s sad to realize that human interaction including sex is seen as strickly transactional
It’s not that it’s seen as strictly transactional. It’s simply one of many perspectives to consider. Just because I’m talking about this perspective doesn’t mean that this is all that I see when interacting with other human beings. It’s not my fault that this is the world we live in. I’m only saying the cold hard truth about life. I think it’s more sad that we live in a world where nothing worth having is free but that’s the reality every human being faces whether we want to admit it or not.

I remember when I was a teen my friends and I were broke so we googled “What can teenagers do for fun for free.” One of the search results said build sand castles. It wasn’t what we had in mind.
 
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