SCotUS majority will repudiate Roe v Wade, leaked draft reveals

[Leimonis]

Delightful.

The only way it can work in criminal law theory is if they criminalize "communicating for the purpose of obtaining an abortion" and deem the communication to have occurred in MO. I don't think they can even do it as a "criminal conspiracy" charge because that involves agreeing to participate in a criminal act and abortion in Illinois is not a criminal act.

Counsel, Canada’s Criminal Code specifically prohibits child sex tourism since May 26, 1997. Many other countries have passed similar child sex tourism laws. Nothing in principle stops any US state from criminalizing abortion tourism.

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism#Extraterritorial_jurisdiction

 

[mandrill]

Counsel, Canada’s Criminal Code specifically prohibits child sex tourism since May 26, 1997. Many other countries have passed similar child sex tourism laws. Nothing in principle stops any US state from criminalizing abortion tourism.

There's another problem though. How can one state criminalize something that another state says is legal when that activity takes place on the second state's territory?

That's gotta be a breach of federalism.

 

[danmand]

There's another problem though. How can one state criminalize something that another state says is legal when that activity takes place on the second state's territory?

That's gotta be a breach of federalism.

Ya think this SC will see that as a problem?

 

[mandrill]

Ya think this SC will see that as a problem?

Since it involves power relationships between states, they might.

 

[mandrill]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521597511487549441

Classic as the drunk dimbo so-called "judge" demands that the SC Leaker be charged, but can't think what the charge might possibly be.

 

[danmand]

Classic as the drunk dimbo so-called "judge" demands that the SC Leaker be charged, but can't think what the charge might possibly be.

Typical lawyer

 

[Darts]

The leaker might be Russia now, sharing a Vodka with Snowden.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Will it not penalize those in the lowest rung of the ladder that are victims of rape or child molestation? Are you okay with them being forced to have the child that they did not consent to have in the first place?
When 69% of the Americans are in favour of Abortions, it includes a chunk of Republicans and Independents as well. The wealthy Republicans who need it will find a way of going out of state for it!!

Worse than that in Texas Abbott changed the law so that rapists can sue their victims for having abortions. The taliban don't seem any more restrictive than the GOP

 

[mandrill]

The leaker might be Russia now, sharing a Vodka with Snowden.

Probably hanging out w his / her leftie friends laughing like a fucker about what was just done. I hope that he / she contacted the news media on a burner phone and burned the draft judgment onto an USB drive, rather than using a burner email. But if he / she's interning for the SC, he / she's probably smart enough to think of all that.

Pretty good stunt. Chapeau!

 

[danmand]

Let us take a step back.

The big fallacy people have is that the Supreme Court is there to enforce justice, the rights of people and moral rules.

Lawyers, the courts, i.e. the legal system never does anything like that. The legal system, including the SC is there to justify what the ruling class wants. In the entire history of the human race, the legal system, the lawyers and the courts have without exception been servile to the ruling class.

Everything Hitler and Stalin did was sanctioned by the legal system and the courts. The best legal minds in Russia and Germany justified everything that was done. And in America, the Supreme court for 200 years sanctioned race segregation, women's inability to vote, and heaven knows what. The Constitution allowed that.

Why would anybody now think that the SC would do what is right?

 

[Darts]

Speaking of courts. What do you think of the Star Chamber?

 

[mandrill]

Conservative MPs, senators ordered not to comment on leaked draft U.S. Supreme Court decision to strike down abortion rights

A memo leaked to The Globe and Mail shows interim Conservative leader Candice Bergen’s office sent a ‘note to caucus’ telling members of Parliament and senators to keep quiet on the issue

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[mandrill]

Let us take a step back.
The big fallacy people have is that the Supreme Court is there to enforce justice, the rights of people and moral rules.
Lawyers, the courts, i.e. the legal system never does anything like that. The legal system, including the SC is there to justify what the ruling class wants. In the entire history of the human race, the legal system, the lawyers and the courts have without exception been servile to the ruling class.
Everything Hitler and Stalin did was sanctioned by the legal system and the courts. The best legal minds in Russia and Germany justified everything that was done. And in America, the Supreme court for 200 years sanctioned race segregation, women's inability to vote, and heaven knows what. The Constitution allowed that.
Why would anybody now think that the SC would do what is right?

Maybe you should discuss this theory with your new friend, Tucker Carlson.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Making laws to appease a fringe minority is not sound politics. This will come back to haunt them.very soon.

 

[danmand]

Maybe you should discuss this theory with your new friend, Tucker Carlson.

It is not a theory. It is long term established facts.

 

[Frankfooter]

The rich ones that want the abortion can have the procedure in several countries and not just Canada. But tell us what exactly is the reasoning behind overturning Roe v Wade?

I've always wondered about this as well. Since it'll likely mostly target poorer minorities and likely force them to have more minority babies all it will do will hasten the great replacement they are so afraid of and fill their states with more dem voting minorities.

 

[danmand]

I've always wondered about this as well. Since it'll likely mostly target poorer minorities and likely force them to have more minority babies all it will do will hasten the great replacement they are so afraid of and fill their states with more dem voting minorities.

Negative. All studies have shown that the number of abortions are independent of legislation. The difference is only the risk to women.

 

[Butler1000]

As I continue to say it has to get worse at this point before it gets better. And I guess 50 years just wasn't enough time to get the legislation done.

And as the philibuster is once again off the table it once again becomes a political football to fundraise off for both parties.

 

[Frankfooter]

Negative. All studies have shown that the number of abortions are independent of legislation. The difference is only the risk to women.

So you would argue that this is about increasing risk to minorities and poor people?

 

[danmand]

Congressman's mistresses will get safe abortions.