Nobody is winning this war...both sides will lose...a fraction of the Russian army and whatever's left of Ukraine....Putin and Zelenssky reaching an agreement which includes dismissing the idea of a NATO (US) base in Ukraine could be Ukraine's best option....
Russian and Ukrain military footage
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I agree, but it seems like Zelensky can’t get the guarantees he was looking for from the west and Putin is not letting them be without Donbas. That seems to be the reality right now.
All Putin had to do to keep Ukraine out of NATO was to keep his forces in Crimea.
There was no chance of Ukraine joining NATO with his force there.
NATO won't allow an occupied country or country with active territorial disputes to join.
Sorry meant to quote RICHACEG.
Thanks for the flat spin footage Mandrill!
Looks like resourceful Russian mechanics installed ship radar on the jet and the pilots are using it to scan the horizon...manually.
Here it is in better resolution on YouTube, plus some awesome comments!
Some select comments! lol
-This must be part of the “surprise” they promised. An air show, complete with full demonstration of their ejector seats.
-"complete with full demonstration of their ejector seats." - That's every Russian airshow.
-With Putin's luck, the jet probably crashed on top of a Russian tank.
-No. The tank was smoking a cigarette and its magazine exploded.
-... and the hit Russian tank fired a shot that sank a cruiser in the Black Sea.
- Russian tank commander: "Nice landing!"
-5 minutes later... Pilot now on ground replies: "Nice take off!"
@OfficialKremlin
- The plane was not shot down. It entered a "special twirling decent operation."
- The plane wasn’t shot down, a fire started and rough seas sunk it.
- This is a manoeuvre performed by our pilots to view incoming attacks with a 360 view
- This is simply the second phase of a vertical take-off jet - it's called the vertical landing phase.
-Just like Moskva was promoted to submarine, this brave fighter jet was promoted to helicopter
- Incredible Transforming skills of the russian army: planes become Helicopter, tanks become planes and mobile crematoriums, Ships become Submarines and Helicopter become lawnmovers...
-We are sending a naval flotilla to rescue the downed Russian pilot in Kharkiv.
-1st Farmored Division
-Ukrainian farmer: We're going to need a special tow bar to get this out of our field. Friend: Just use your T-72
--He was not shot by a misile..,... he was pulled down by a Ukrainan traktor
- Special training for the russian forces, dying mosquito secret flight! It's an evasion maneuver, but they haven't found out how to keep the vodka in the drink holders, centrifugal force and all!
Looks like resourceful Russian mechanics installed ship radar on the jet and the pilots are using it to scan the horizon...manually.
Here it is in better resolution on YouTube, plus some awesome comments!
Some select comments! lol
-This must be part of the “surprise” they promised. An air show, complete with full demonstration of their ejector seats.
-"complete with full demonstration of their ejector seats." - That's every Russian airshow.
-With Putin's luck, the jet probably crashed on top of a Russian tank.
-No. The tank was smoking a cigarette and its magazine exploded.
-... and the hit Russian tank fired a shot that sank a cruiser in the Black Sea.
- Russian tank commander: "Nice landing!"
-5 minutes later... Pilot now on ground replies: "Nice take off!"
@OfficialKremlin
- The plane was not shot down. It entered a "special twirling decent operation."
- The plane wasn’t shot down, a fire started and rough seas sunk it.
- This is a manoeuvre performed by our pilots to view incoming attacks with a 360 view
- This is simply the second phase of a vertical take-off jet - it's called the vertical landing phase.
-Just like Moskva was promoted to submarine, this brave fighter jet was promoted to helicopter
- Incredible Transforming skills of the russian army: planes become Helicopter, tanks become planes and mobile crematoriums, Ships become Submarines and Helicopter become lawnmovers...
-We are sending a naval flotilla to rescue the downed Russian pilot in Kharkiv.
-1st Farmored Division
-Ukrainian farmer: We're going to need a special tow bar to get this out of our field. Friend: Just use your T-72
--He was not shot by a misile..,... he was pulled down by a Ukrainan traktor
- Special training for the russian forces, dying mosquito secret flight! It's an evasion maneuver, but they haven't found out how to keep the vodka in the drink holders, centrifugal force and all!
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Special military operation training exercise to show how to evade surface to air missiles by crashing into them.Thanks for the flat spin footage Mandrill!
Looks like resourceful Russian mechanics installed ship radar on the jet and the pilots are using it to scan the horizon...manually.
Here it is in better resolution on YouTube, plus some awesome comments!
Some select comments! lol
-This must be part of the “surprise” they promised. An air show, complete with full demonstration of their ejector seats.
-"complete with full demonstration of their ejector seats." - That's every Russian airshow.
-With Putin's luck, the jet probably crashed on top of a Russian tank.
-No. The tank was smoking a cigarette and its magazine exploded.
-... and the hit Russian tank fired a shot that sank a cruiser in the Black Sea.
- Russian tank commander: "Nice landing!"
-5 minutes later... Pilot now on ground replies: "Nice take off!"
@OfficialKremlin
- The plane was not shot down. It entered a "special twirling decent operation."
- The plane wasn’t shot down, a fire started and rough seas sunk it.
- This is a manoeuvre performed by our pilots to view incoming attacks with a 360 view
- This is simply the second phase of a vertical take-off jet - it's called the vertical landing phase.
-Just like Moskva was promoted to submarine, this brave fighter jet was promoted to helicopter
- Incredible Transforming skills of the russian army: planes become Helicopter, tanks become planes and mobile crematoriums, Ships become Submarines and Helicopter become lawnmovers...
-We are sending a naval flotilla to rescue the downed Russian pilot in Kharkiv.
-1st Farmored Division
-Ukrainian farmer: We're going to need a special tow bar to get this out of our field. Friend: Just use your T-72
--He was not shot by a misile..,... he was pulled down by a Ukrainan traktor
- Special training for the russian forces, dying mosquito secret flight! It's an evasion maneuver, but they haven't found out how to keep the vodka in the drink holders, centrifugal force and all!
NATO changes rules on a whim. In any case, now that blood has been spilled, I fully expect Putin will not accept anything less then surrender.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ysVLo8BLRqEi/
Ukrainian women protest their to save their men from being sent to their deaths.
Ukrainian women protest their to save their men from being sent to their deaths.
So they killed one guy there? Here is how the Russians are using drones + rocket launchers:
https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/...ainian-positions-with-Thermobaric-weaponry.:2
How long do you think before Putin surrenders?
Its a debate show they gotta have some guy to bring to the western view if not whats the debate? Just like there are people on the western side that say that Ukraine is getting crushed. ..if Biden went from 3.4B in aid to 33B in aid, is that a GOOD SIGN?
Actually he is stating your position, so he's kinda like you... lol not in touch with reality.
"I'm not, you are"?
I think you're the outlier here, the only one that trusts RT over OSINT.
We're not talking US propaganda, the MSM or right wing media.
Not even CBC, which reflects only Canadian biases and reports accurately.
OSINT is the intel that's not aligned with either side.
You should check it against the stuff you're taking in.
I don't trust RT or OSINT they are both propaganda mouthpieces. CBC does not have the means of gathering info in these distant conflicts, so they just rely on newsfeeds and thus have no real ability to stray from the western script. If things are going so will, why is Biden 10x his Ukraine fund? From the way the initial reports were going the UAF should be in Moscow now. I said before the UAF in Donbas is the best trained and equipped of the UAF. The Russians are in no hurry whatsoever. The last attempt to go fast brought results but at high cost. Now they are just throwing massive firepower at any line of resistance before they edge forward. The UAF are heavily dug in here as its been a conflict zone for 8 years now. OSINT is primarily a western concept, and the site has developed its own cognitive bias. At least I admit there is a chance I could be completely wrong. I do have a cognitive bias based on my understanding of the massive asymmetry in military power here. Its possible all those Russian tanks, guns, planes and troops only exist on paper, or are of such inferior quality that they are irrelevant. But frankly I don't think so. And even if they are, Ukraine has even older versions of the same equipment and only a few years of NATO training. Even then, NATO as force has NOT performed very well at all.
Where are you getting your news from?
There is nothing legit that I've seen post any of the ideas you're pushing here.
