Black People In Toronto Are Nearly Four Times More Likely To Be Arrested By City Cops For Drug Possession When Compared To Other Races

[princekwekua]

Much respect......

Thanks.

I worked for a Canadian multinational corporation upon graduation. I was the only black person in the whole company. They applied for me to obtain Canadian citizenship and made me one of 5 vice presidents within two years. They sent me to give papers at every major conference. My bosses were there sometimes and they beamed with pride. They sent me to Japan, Brazil, Germany, everywhere to help conclude major deals. People started calling me Mr. Company.

My dog sneaked out one day. A neighboring couple I didnt know brought him over. "We've seen you always walking him and we know you live here because you are always working in your garden" is what they said. So grateful.

I cite these stories because I honestly have no idea when people talk about racism and discrimination in Canada. Never experienced any overt discrimination in 40 years. And neither has anyone I know. Not my kids and any of my professional black friends.

I have been all over the world. This country Canada is the greatest country on earth!

 

[princekwekua]

Very inspiring. We both happen to be McGill grads.
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I know you are a McGill grad, too. But I still have no idea of the reservoir

 

[ogibowt]

A black man who doesn't play the poor me I'm so oppressed card. Very refreshing.

i forgot to mention..intolerance, scapegoating ,victim blaming and stereotyping here on Terb?.....never....

 

[Darts]

I know you are a McGill grad, too. But I still have no idea of the reservoir

If you don't know about The Reservoir, you were a much better student than I. LOL!
Congrats on your success in academics, career and life. Don't let the losers get you down.

 

[Butler1000]

Economics says money rather than a 2 parent household is more of a factor for success. Obviously 2 parent households tend to be better off financially.

This site is full of dinosaurs that women cannot stand. Women are tired of these whole patriarchal notions.

How about looking into the real world by seeing what most people think.

I don't know if the Ghanaian dude has adequate proficiency in English, but he doesn't seem to understand that there is a need for an underclass. It's by design. Uppity negro's like him love to look down on others with the same skin color.

The thing is, people are starting to wake up to these old outdated notions, which the social conservatives love.

If you think not having two strong parents as role models is better than having one over worked one then you haven't been paying attention to the slow downward spiral occuring. And two parent includes gay couples. But we will address the main 1 parent household that occurs due to an unequal court system biased against fathers in North America.

The rise of the concept of "I don't need a man" has resulted in a societal attitude that both demeans men and at the same time releases them from parental responsiblity. Which continues to compound on itself with each successive generation.

This takes nothing away from the women who had to leave shitty guys behind and raised good kids. But from a statistical standpoint not all women can do it themselves, which results in a slow but steady decline in the population of successful individuals. And a slow erosion of societal success as well.

We are lucky in Canada due to a better social safety net, better education, and a better overall attitude than the USA. They really are slowly declining to the point where "Idiocracy" is becoming a documentary. And that is all races. Lots of white failure, black failure, name a racial profile to go around.

As for a permanent underclass remember 50% of the population is ALWAYS below average intelligence. So that workforce will always exist. And where immigrants gain a certain deserved arrogance is simple. They come with little, work hard, instill this in their kids and succeed, all within the rules of a supposedly unequal system that they are told by local failures they can't succeed in.

They are winners. And winners get to strut.

 

[jsanchez]

I came to this country with zero savings. But came from a nuclear family which stressed education above everything. Had a tuition scholarship and a teaching assistantship. To supplement, I was a night time dish washer at Bar B Barn on Guy Street in Montreal. Also cleaned toilets and the floor at arcades on St Catherine Street at night. Yes, I went to McGill. I also did door to door sales of magazine subscription.

None of my friends from Ghana and Nigeria had the savings you are talking about when they arrived in Canada. Today, several are professors, doctors, engineers, etc. My two kids are both professionals. They have never smoked a cigarette or taken any illicit drugs. Ever. How do I know? We kept a close eye on them growing up and they live nearby. All their fees in college were paid up. Not a dime in OSAP or any student debt. Lack of parental support in black communities is the reason for higher crime rates and endemic poverty. Sad.

Whatever you mean by the stupid "uppity negro" term, I can tell you I am proudly Canadian and thankful every day for what Canada has offered me and my family.

You dont seem to have anything better to do with your time than incessantly post these moronic threads. Good luck.

You're like some of my African neighbors and co-workers (Congo, Nigeria and east Africa),
they all seem to have a few things in common, they didn't come with much money, they valued education
and work, and they watch their kids like hawks!
Don't tell that to Charlatan.

 

[Don Draper]

Terb is at its best when the Resident Narcissist Simpleton chimes in so thanks Donnie Boy.

You’re more entertaining than you’ll ever know because you lack even a smidgeon of self awareness

So predictable and laughable and just plain boring you are Donnie. There’s members on this forum that I certainly disagree with a lot but you Donnie are the least remarkable of any of them.

Finish that DeAngelis book yet you gullible Old Fool?

I love that I can always depend on your sage abilities.

It's just as wonderful to be boring as it is being anti-racist.
There are many fools that will never know that feeling.

Oh, and you know that the love is mutual!!

 

[Ghbff]

I cite these stories because I honestly have no idea when people talk about racism and discrimination in Canada. Never experienced any overt discrimination in 40 years. And neither has anyone I know. Not my kids and any of my professional black friends.

Brother just because you’ve never experienced racism/discrimination doesn’t mean that minorities in Canada everyday don’t.

 

[basketcase]

I came to this country with zero savings. But came from a nuclear family which stressed education above everything....

Every story is an anecdote so I'll give mine.

I'm from a 'broken' home with a mother with no degree and the family was dependent of welfare for a while. I became quite successful. At the same time, I knew many POC who were as or more talented than me who never got the opportunities I had.

When it comes down to all these things, there is a systemic bias that people face but of course racism doesn't account for everything. From my experience, being white, being wealthy, and being from an educated family are benefits and simply give more room for mistakes and more opportunities to take advantage of good luck. For example, a poor person who gets caught doing something stupid is far less likely to get the lawyer needed to get everything dismissed and therefore is more likely to have a record that will impact their future opportunity.

From my experiences, policing in Canada has improved and become less obviously biased but that is directly related to the scrutiny that past actions have had. If it had not been for people exposing the statistical difference in outcomes, there would have been no incentive to improve. It's good to promote success stories to show people can beat the odds but that shouldn't require us covering up the inequalities that exist.


p.s. People I know say that as they have aged, it is far less likely for them to be profiled. While being younger black men, they had different treatment. I don't know how much of that change is the perception of age playing a role or an improvement in policing.

 

[Darts]

I cite these stories because I honestly have no idea when people talk about racism and discrimination in Canada. Never experienced any overt discrimination in 40 years. And neither has anyone I know. Not my kids and any of my professional black friends.

You and the people you know are living proof that you don't attract the attention of police when you don't do stupid stuff and/or break any laws. The lefties dislike/hate people like you because you do not conform to their narrative.

Here 3 current examples of people breaking laws.
1) Randomly shooting and killing two dudes.
2) Trying to steal a car with a little kid still inside.
3) Selling bogus watches.

P.S. I am really disappointed that you were not aware of The Reservoir. We wanted a secluded spot and I guess it was so secluded that nobody knew about it.

 

[poopypants]

The reality is is that minorities are getting more opportunities than ever right now. Many companies are trying to get better diversity. The blacks that want to succeed do, the Charlemagnes of the world get left behind.

And yes if you wear a do rag, pants around your knees, you will probably be treated worse.

 

[poopypants]

 

[princekwekua]

Brother just because you’ve never experienced racism/discrimination doesn’t mean that minorities in Canada everyday don’t.

Did I say what you just said? No!

 

[princekwekua]

You're like some of my African neighbors and co-workers (Congo, Nigeria and east Africa),
they all seem to have a few things in common, they didn't come with much money, they valued education
and work, and they watch their kids like hawks!
Don't tell that Charlatan.

And we work extra hard because we have to send money to the folks we left behind. Two jobs, overtime are the norm.

 

[princekwekua]

If you don't know about The Reservoir, you were a much better student than I. LOL!
Congrats on your success in academics, career and life. Don't let the losers get you down.
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I lived further east on Pine Avenue and I now see I passed the Reservoir regularly to join Cote Des Neiges. I just never knew it was there lol. Pierre Elliot Trudeau lived close by.

 

[Darts]

I lived further east on Pine Avenue and I now see I passed the Reservoir regularly to join Cote Des Neiges. I just never knew it was there lol. Pierre Elliot Trudeau lived close by.

So, you lived a bit east of Molson Stadium and the Arthur Currie gym as well. You probably passed by the Reservoir without knowing that it was The Reservoir. I don't recall if McGregor Avenue is a one way street. Driving east you will see The Reservoir's southern side on your left and as you drive up the hill the east side of the Reservoir will also be on your left.

Not to get personal, are you still living in Montreal now?

Gymnasium - McGill University Athletics (mcgillathletics.ca)

 

[princekwekua]

So, you lived a bit east of Molson Stadium and the Arthur Currie gym as well. You probably passed by the Reservoir without knowing that it was The Reservoir. I don't recall if McGregor Avenue is a one way street. Driving east you will see The Reservoir's southern side on your left and as you drive up the hill the east side of the Reservoir will also be on your left.

Not to get personal, are you still living in Montreal now?

Gymnasium - McGill University Athletics (mcgillathletics.ca)

I live now in small town Ontario. Population 40000

 

[MindJohn]

Black People In Toronto Are Nearly Four Times More Likely To Be Arrested By City Cops For Drug Possession When Compared To Other Races

To the surprise of no one, racism is alive and well around the world, including right here at home. VICE News obtained data that exposed how Canadian police

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What else is new...

There is nothing "new" in this case. Still idiots trying to sell media with incomplete data.

None of what you brought here is at all statistically significant because, of course (and "... as always..." ) you left out the core concern. A routine ploy to dupe those dumber than you are.


The rest of us are reminded of a study of traffic citations on the New Jersey Turnpike some years back.


Of course the media, and others like yourself, were quick to report.


"Black motorists received 63% of the traffic citations issued for speeding on the NJ 'Pike (during specific window of time)"

(cue the stupid people up in arms about the news)


(then some other group does a study...)

News Flash: "Black motorists were approximately 2/3 of those who were actually speeding on the NJ Pike, ticketed or not."



Nice try though!

 

[Czar]

For example, a poor person who gets caught doing something stupid is far less likely to get the lawyer needed to get everything dismissed and therefore is more likely to have a record that will impact their future opportunity.

Don't do something stupid. Bit of a novel concept for some, obvious for others.

 

[Czar]

As Charlemagne has shown, blacks are targeted by the police.

I've said this before, but what happened is police heavily patrol black communities and do not let people off with warnings.Jaywalking? Ticket. Drinking in public? Ticket. Yelling at a neighbour? Public intoxication or creating a disturbance. Fist fight between kids? Assault charges for both. Then, the DA or Crown throw the book at them instead of considering redirection programs and what not. They also get harsher bail conditions, resulting in many spending time in remand or pleading to BS charges. So, those communities are seen as being high crime, so the police patrol even more and work to inflate the figures to justify their budgets. All the arrests and imprisonments breaks up family units, plus bad schools makes kids think the only way out is through crime. And the media sensationalizes arrests or violence in these communities.

Now, this doesn't happen in white neighbourhoods nearly as much. Yes, whites get arrested, but they get lighter sentences (for various reasons including the ability to hire an attorney), or get access to programs that help them avoid jail or get bail. The get the benefit of the doubt in the legal system.

There are definitely issues in the black community. Police are one of them. They are like an occupying army. As a white kid, I always felt safe around police, and that I could go to the for help for nearly anything. Black kids probably never feel that way, and see how the cops treat their family members and other people in the community. In most major US cities, minority communities have shitty schools. White people who can afford it send their kids to private schools while the public system deteriorates. Blacks have trouble getting good jobs. If they get into the correctional system, they have a real hard time getting a good job, so they live at slave wages.

Basically, society has failed the black community time and time again. It is easy for middle class white people to think that it's the black's fault, that they need to learn to pull themselves up from their bootstraps. But, that is just total BS.

Then there is all those oriental kids. When I was in school we had a bunch in my math class. Many came over in boats from Asia in the eighties speaking a foreign language. The teacher always handed out the test by score. Asian kids eight out of the top ten. I bet most didn't get publicly intoxicated, jaywalk, yell at the neighbour, or create a disturbance. Otherwise those racist cops might have arrested them to justify their their budgets. Probably all have a good job now.

Interesting how behaviour based on culture can make a community do so well. It is called the way you think. I still rarely see them playing sports for hours on end(or really at all) when I drive by the sports facilities. Perhaps that just doesn't lead to a career. I bet most of them didn't blame others for any of their self-induced problems either. Thought process.