Respect: president of Ukraine remains in Kiev

danmand

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He is a comedian.
 

stinkynuts

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At least he is not on a plane to Cancun.
Exactly. I thought he was a pussy, but this guy could have easily chosen to flee. He knows that he is the primary target, and is going to be taken out, He has a family and most likely will be killed in the next few days.

Yet, he isn't a hypocrite who tells his citizens to fight while he runs away to save his own skin. For that reason, respect.
 

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Exactly. I thought he was a pussy, but this guy could have easily chosen to flee. He knows that he is the primary target, and is going to be taken out, He has a family and most likely will be killed in the next few days.

Yet, he isn't a hypocrite who tells his citizens to fight while he runs away to save his own skin. For that reason, respect.
When he says he "will be right there with them" he mans it.
 

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy remains in his country’s capital despite two days of brutal Russian airstrikes.

Ukraine’s Ambassador to the United States Oksana Markarova confirmed to reporters Friday afternoon that Zelenskyy intends to remain in Kyiv.

“The intention of our president and of all Ukrainians is to fight until our victory,” Markarova.

The revelation follows a somber video call with European Union leaders where Zelenskyy said “this might be the last time you see me alive.”

— Amanda Macias
 
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danmand

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Exactly. I thought he was a pussy, but this guy could have easily chosen to flee. He knows that he is the primary target, and is going to be taken out, He has a family and most likely will be killed in the next few days.

Yet, he isn't a hypocrite who tells his citizens to fight while he runs away to save his own skin. For that reason, respect.
I agree that he is walking the talk.

But I disagree in him giving out rifles to everybody to fight a professional army. That is suicidal.
 
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President Zelensky is hard proof that you never give in to thugs. Democracy can be messy, the Ukraine had a succession of kleptocratcs and oligarchs until him. He's the first decent leader that Ukraine has ever had. This has happened before, Mikhail Shakasvilli was a capable leader, Putin deposed him in Georgia, now an oligarch is running the country.

Breaking news: Germany is going floof mode.

 

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I agree that he is walking the talk.

But I disagree in him giving out rifles to everybody to fight a professional army. That is suicidal.
Yes, but this (suicidal) is why Hitler was defeated by Russians, Belorussians, and Ukrainians (three largest nations in former USSR with common history and traditions). Ant the lack of it in Western culture is why Putin is winning and there is nothing West can do about it. For the West, 1% GDP decline is more important than Ukraine.
 
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I agree that he is walking the talk.

But I disagree in him giving out rifles to everybody to fight a professional army. That is suicidal.
These guys had a different opinion.
Better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.Emiliano Zapata #quote

quote cited to Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s speech when he got an honorary Doctor of Laws from Oxford in 1941,
We, too, born to freedom, and believing in freedom, are willing to fight to maintain freedom. We, and all others who believe as deeply as we do, would rather die on our feet than live on our knees.
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danmand

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Everybody can chose if the want to be martyrs.

But nobody should send other people to be martyrs. Giving a civilian a rifle and telling him to go after a tank, is no better than the sending people out with suicide vests.
 
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