Ford to announce lifting of vaccine mandate March 1st???

simon482

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Nope, because with Omicron it spreads to anyone now, it was different with delta. Also, it's time to stop testing for vaccinated travelers. But Masks are still effective in certain settings.
Every variant spread regardless of vaxx status.
 

squeezer

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You guys have yet to prove why the polls are not accurate.
In the amazing third world fantasy realm, anything is possible. They have their own imaginary polls.

They even enjoy freestyle twat dancing in their realm, it's quite entertaining.

 

seagerbuzz

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Obviously you still can't back up your claims that the polls were wrong.
You can't back them up as being accurate so what's your point. They poll a handful of people and you think that represents the entire country. Polls aren't even remotely accurate. I don't need proof to know this.
 
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You can't back them up as being accurate so what's your point. They poll a handful of people and you think that represents the entire country. Polls aren't even remotely accurate. I don't need proof to know this.
Scientific polls do not represent the country in so much as they do not ask every single member of a group, but to say they are not accurate is ridiculous.
They ARE completely accurate among those polled. Every day you use products or watch programming that was given the green light from focus groups which is essentially like polling. A small group is used to be reflective of the general response to the subject.
What you're doing is committing the Burden of Proof fallacy. You cannot prove (or even logically claim, if we're being honest) that the poll is inaccurate even though you're the one questioning its credibility, so you are instead asking shack to prove that the poll ISN'T inaccurate.
Our company has hired polling firms many times to gauge interest in our clients' services, reputation and more. These are incredibly bright people working on it with a scientific method to capture information with fail-safes implemented to ensure the findings are legitimate, such as phrasing of the questions and mixing up the order of the answer responses so that a respondent doesn't simply keep clicking choice A for example.
You don't have to agree with the results of poll, you could favour the minority response for any number of reasons but to call it inaccurate without any evidence to back up your claim is juvenile.
 

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You can't back them up as being accurate so what's your point. They poll a handful of people and you think that represents the entire country. Polls aren't even remotely accurate. I don't need proof to know this.
I never made any claim as to their accuracy one way or the other. As such there is nothing for me to back up.

Somebody posted a poll and you dismissed it out of hand. I'm simply asking on what basis did you dismiss it.
 

richaceg

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But Justin just announced #Canadahasfallen and #Tie-runny. It doesn't seem like he's losing.
I don't think Justin is losing but being a superb drama teacher that he is...he always make it look like he's not getting his way and has to overcome...he doesn't listen to anybody but himself...I like him though...he's handsome and he's a generous dude...
 
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seagerbuzz

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I never made any claim as to their accuracy one way or the other. As such there is nothing for me to back up.

Somebody posted a poll and you dismissed it out of hand. I'm simply asking on what basis did you dismiss it.
What basis did you accept it?
 

basketcase

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Do you not actually read the numbers and news or....
Yes. And they clearly show that before omicron, unvaccinated people were getting infected at 4 to 10 x the rate of the vaccinated. For about a month in the omicron peak, vaccinated people in Ontario were testing positive at a higher rate (though there are clearly other factors contributing to this) but we are again back to the unvaxxed being more likely, even with testing being mainly limited to groups like hospital workers with an extremely high vaccination rate.
 

simon482

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Yes. And they clearly show that before omicron, unvaccinated people were getting infected at 4 to 10 x the rate of the vaccinated. For about a month in the omicron peak, vaccinated people in Ontario were testing positive at a higher rate (though there are clearly other factors contributing to this) but we are again back to the unvaxxed being more likely, even with testing being mainly limited to groups like hospital workers with an extremely high vaccination rate.
So you're saying every variant spread regardless of vaxx status?
 

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So you're saying every variant spread regardless of vaxx status?
Ah, the debating strategy of a 4 year old. No you are!!!

Yes. And they clearly show that before omicron, unvaccinated people were getting infected at 4 to 10 x the rate of the vaccinated. For about a month in the omicron peak, vaccinated people in Ontario were testing positive at a higher rate (though there are clearly other factors contributing to this) but we are again back to the unvaxxed being more likely, even with testing being mainly limited to groups like hospital workers with an extremely high vaccination rate.
 

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Some day this COVID will inevitably ease and things will become close to where they were before it started. It's not because the minority anti-vaxers caused it. The victory is because of those who did rollup their sleeves to fight the spread. The only effect anti-vaxer contributed was to the length of the lockdown and countless thousands of people who were denied access to hospitals because society chose to help morons incapable of helping themselves.

We had a Darin moment when the mentally challenged should have been allowed to be purged - the QR code could have been used to leave them out of hospitals and the medical facilities that they mocked. My fear is that another more serious disease will arrive (eg small pox, polio, - both virtually eliminated by vaccines) and the mental malignancy allowed to live will cause thousands of innocent people to die in the future .
That M-Fing QR code again! Only people with smart phones matter anymore?
 
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