Says the guy who apparently thinks 2006 was "pre-industrial revolution."
Frankfooter's posts from 2015 show the IPCC's predictions of global warming were spectacularly wrong
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Here's the difference between Frankfooter and myself.
Frankfooter loves to cite imaginary quotes and conclusions, such as the repeated falsehood that I allegedly "admitted" the IPCC's projections were correct (https://bit.ly/3uKdfLm) because the Earth's temperature has increased by about 1ºC since the late 19th century.
The part attributed to me is obviously total bullshit.
I have actually said the IPCC's predictions have been "spectacularly wrong." There's nothing special about the temperature increase ultimately reaching the 1ºC mark and I have never said I was using that as a benchmark for measuring the IPCC's predictions (the overwhelming majority of that 1ºC increase occurred prior to 2006. Predictions are about the future, not the past).
You can disagree with my opinions. However, Frankfooter routinely attributes things to me (and others on TERB) that are nothing more than descriptions of his own opinions being falsely attributed to others.
By contrast, when I cite Frankfooter's idiotic statements, I quote him "directly" and always provide a link to the attribution
The fact is he did say the projected emission increases in the AP story from 2021 was "good news."
That's not an extrapolation. It's a direct quote in a post responding to numbers that Frankfooter himself had previously cited (https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/fra...pectacularly-wrong.773259/page-7#post-7392706).
Frankfooter's problem is that he sinks himself when he tries to defend the indefensible, such as the IPCC's history of horribly wrong predictions.
I knew he would post some idiotic things when I started this thread. But his "good news" description of the record-breaking emissions surpassed even my expectations.
Bravo, Franky. Well done.
Frankfooter loves to cite imaginary quotes and conclusions, such as the repeated falsehood that I allegedly "admitted" the IPCC's projections were correct (https://bit.ly/3uKdfLm) because the Earth's temperature has increased by about 1ºC since the late 19th century.
The part attributed to me is obviously total bullshit.
I have actually said the IPCC's predictions have been "spectacularly wrong." There's nothing special about the temperature increase ultimately reaching the 1ºC mark and I have never said I was using that as a benchmark for measuring the IPCC's predictions (the overwhelming majority of that 1ºC increase occurred prior to 2006. Predictions are about the future, not the past).
You can disagree with my opinions. However, Frankfooter routinely attributes things to me (and others on TERB) that are nothing more than descriptions of his own opinions being falsely attributed to others.
By contrast, when I cite Frankfooter's idiotic statements, I quote him "directly" and always provide a link to the attribution
The fact is he did say the projected emission increases in the AP story from 2021 was "good news."
That's not an extrapolation. It's a direct quote in a post responding to numbers that Frankfooter himself had previously cited (https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/fra...pectacularly-wrong.773259/page-7#post-7392706).
Frankfooter's problem is that he sinks himself when he tries to defend the indefensible, such as the IPCC's history of horribly wrong predictions.
I knew he would post some idiotic things when I started this thread. But his "good news" description of the record-breaking emissions surpassed even my expectations.
Bravo, Franky. Well done.
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I have never said any such thing.Says the guy who apparently thinks 2006 was "pre-industrial revolution."
Please stop making false claims about what I say or you will be reported.
First warning.
Quotes you call 'imaginary'.
The IPCC projected in 2006 that by around now we would be seeing about 1ºC total warming from the industrial revolution base temperature.
As you have noted repeated, this is NASA says is happening.
Which means you have confirmed that the IPCC's projections are accurate while you also insanely call them 'spectacularly wrong'.
There's nothing in any of the quotes you posted that backs the repeated claim that I allegedly "admitted" the IPCC's projections were accurate.
"Which means..."? That's your opinion.
You don't speak for me and you don't get to assign ownership of your opinions to me. Show me a quote or a post where you claim I said I "admit" the IPCC's predictions are accurate.
I can save you some time. Your assertions are total bullshit. I never said or implied any such thing.
In fact, I have repeatedly said - and still say - the IPCC's predictions were spectacularly wrong.
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1) You stated that the IPCC projections were for 1ºC from pre industrial temperatures increase to present days.
2) You admitted that the planet has warmed 1ºC.
That's confirming their projections.
You have raised no counter debate, supplied no evidence and failed to prove that assertion is wrong.
Your posts have confirmed the accuracy of the IPCC's projections.
Partially true. I have said for years that the planet has warmed about 1ºC since the late 19th century. It's not something I "admitted," as I have never said anything to the contrary.
Strike two!
Projections are about the future.
I never said the IPCC made "projections" that the temperature would increase by 1ºC starting in the late 19th century. In fact, since the IPCC was only created in 1988, I mocked the idea that the IPCC could travel back in time to make such "projections."
Furthermore, I never said that the temperature ultimately reaching 1ºC since the late 19th century would confirm the accuracy of the IPCC's projections about the impact of man-made CO2 emissions. For one thing, much of that warming occurred pre-1950 when the IPCC has said it doesn't have evidence that human activity was the primary cause.
As well, a measureable prediction would require a specific timeframe, not an open-ended projection about sometime in the future. If you knew even a little bit about science, you would have known that (added fact: you've never actually produced this "projection" that you claim was made in 2006).
Etc.
You have completely failed to produce any quotes or posts by me that say or imply that I "admitted" the IPCC's projections were accurate. You don't get to use your opinions about whether the IPCC's predictions have been "confirmed" as evidence of statements made by me.
You get one more try.
No one disputes that I have said for years that the Earth's temperature has increased by about 1ºC since the late 19th century. You don't need to repeat that.
But it remains total bullshit to say that I said the 1ºC increase "confirmed" the accuracy of the IPCC's projections and that I "admitted" the IPCC's projections were accurate.
As I said before, those are imaginary "quotes" that you created. I neither said nor implied any such thing.
In fact, I have repeatedly said the IPCC's predictions have so far been spectacularly wrong.
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That is 1ºC of anthropogenic climate change, as reported by the IPCC.
You are spectacularly wrong.
The IPCC attributes the 1ºC of warming to greenhouse gases from human activity.
Exxon predicted the warming we are seeing now in 1982.
Hansen made a similar prediction in the '80's.
Climatologists modelling in 2006 predicted the approx 0.3ºC of warming we have experienced in the 15 years since their projections.
You just admitted that the planet has warmed by 1ºC since industrialization.
So you agree that the planet has warmed 1ºC and that the planet has warmed 0.3ºC since the 2006 projections but somehow still think this means the IPCC is wrong.
You have provided no alternate theory to explain the warming we have experienced nor found any fault with either their modelling, theories or evidence.
What you've done is confirmed their measurements, the numbers they projected and accuracy of their modelling along with totally failing to provide any reason to doubt their work.
All you've done is prove the IPCC correct and failed to provide any theory or evidence on why they could be wrong or what has caused this warming.
Strike three! You're out, Frankfooter.
Let's review Frankfooter's comprehensive checklist of total failure:
- No source or verification of the alleged 2006 "projection" by the IPCC.
- No post by me saying the 2006 "projection" - if the alleged "projection" even exists - would serve as a benchmark for confirming the accuracy of the IPCC's predictions.
- No post by me ever saying the IPCC's projections were confirmed.
- No post by me ever saying that I "admitted" the IPCC's predictions are accurate.
Absolutely nothing. The repeated assertion that I "admitted" the IPCC's predictions are accurate is total bullshit.
(If we were to follow Frankfooter's functionally illiterate approach to creating imaginary "quotes," I guess we would say Frankfooter has "admitted" his posts are total bullshit.
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In reality, I have repeatedly said the IPCC's predictions have so far continued to be spectacularly wrong.
Let's review Frankfooter's comprehensive checklist of total failure:
- No source or verification of the alleged 2006 "projection" by the IPCC.
- No post by me saying the 2006 "projection" - if the alleged "projection" even exists - would serve as a benchmark for confirming the accuracy of the IPCC's predictions.
- No post by me ever saying the IPCC's projections were confirmed.
- No post by me ever saying that I "admitted" the IPCC's predictions are accurate.
Absolutely nothing. The repeated assertion that I "admitted" the IPCC's predictions are accurate is total bullshit.
(If we were to follow Frankfooter's functionally illiterate approach to creating imaginary "quotes," I guess we would say Frankfooter has "admitted" his posts are total bullshit.
)In reality, I have repeatedly said the IPCC's predictions have so far continued to be spectacularly wrong.
By contrast, Frankfooter's proclamation that the record-breaking increase in global man-made emissions is "good news" is a legitimate quote, fully sourced.
Apparently, Franky thinks the record-breaking levels are a "success of government policy" and "good news" because he thinks it could have been worse.
Somewhere, Michael Mann weeps.
Apparently, Franky thinks the record-breaking levels are a "success of government policy" and "good news" because he thinks it could have been worse.
Somewhere, Michael Mann weeps.
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Stop lying about what I say or I will report you.
I said the decline in CO2 emissions was good news, not an increase.
First warning.
1) You posted links to NASA's charts which shows a 0.3ºC warming in the 15 years since the 2006 projections, which is exactly what they projected.
2) We made a bet in 2015 on the projections you now say don't exist.
3) You have repeatedly confirmed there is a total of 1ºC warming, which is what the IPCC projected and pointed to NASA's charts showing the recent warming agreeing with the 2006 projection
4) You continue to confirm the projections, the warming and the measurements of said warming which confirms the IPCC's work yet somehow, in your anti-science, logic failure you seem to claim means that they were wrong.
You confirm every point I made then try to claim that somehow this proves that I was wrong?
Its a crazy failure in logic, kind of like your math fails earlier in this thread.
You have confirmed that the IPCC projections of climate change are accurate.
The IPCC projections said there would be a 1ºC warming about now, which you confirmed repeatedly in this thread.
The only spectacularly wrong thing here is your claim that the IPCC was wrong.
