Saskatchewan To Drop All Proof Of Vaccination Mandates Starting Sunday Feb 13

[Male4Strapon]

Okay however Yemen has a population of 29 million. 2000 deaths from covid is insignificant.

If your extrapolation was correct, based on their low vaccination rate, they should have over 5 million dead.

Do you see a discrepancy here? 2000 vs 5 million

yes, I have since acknowledged that I erred in comparing to Canada that I was doing so if all Canadians had Covid. That is obviously not the case, and likewise not all in Yemen have Covid.
However the math remains correct and indisputable: vaccinations make a massive difference, 18% case fatality rate would mean over half a million Canadians (of 3.148 million cases) died from Covid rather than 35000.
Vaccination has brought our fatality rate to 1.1%

 

[PeteOsborne]

Kenney's got a pretty darn good record on this stuff too!

What is the saying, do the same thing over and over but expect a different result?

 

[PeteOsborne]

Don’t be delusional. This stuff was already happening and going to happen. The message has been clear. The numbers are dropping, vaccination rate is high, this is the natural course.

People just impatient a couple of weeks early. Nothing more, nothing less.

Hell, announcements were even made about restrictions lessening BEFORE the protests. Here in Ontario, we announced the Jan 31 re-opening for example. People just couldn’t wait and now you all falsely believe the protest had something to do with it.

Kinda like a guy showing up after firefighters have fought a fire for 2 hours and a guy shows up, finishes his beer and pisses on the fire putting it out, then declaring "I put the fire out!"

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

yes, I have since acknowledged that I erred in comparing to Canada that I was doing so if all Canadians had Covid. That is obviously not the case, and likewise not all in Yemen have Covid.
However the math remains correct and indisputable: vaccinations make a massive difference, 18% case fatality rate would mean over half a million Canadians (of 3.148 million cases) died from Covid rather than 35000.
Vaccination has brought our fatality rate to 1.1%

What makes you think most or not all people in Yemen or Canada were not infected with covid? It transmits faster and easier than wildfire. Everyone has been infected by now. Everyone. The fatality rate is BS and that's why you don't get the expected death count in a country like Yemen where virtually nobody is vaccinated. Or because Yemen is not a First World country, their obesity rate is near zero, so you get very few deaths from covid... because it's a fat people killer.

 

[Male4Strapon]

What makes you think most or not all people in Yemen or Canada were not infected with covid? It transmits faster and easier than wildfire. Everyone has been infected by now. Everyone. The fatality rate is BS and that's why you don't get the expected death count in a country like Yemen where virtually nobody is vaccinated. Or because Yemen is not a First World country, their obesity rate is near zero, so you get very few deaths from covid... because it's a fat people killer.

Of course more people have had covid than reported but to suggest most or all Canadians, Yemens or other have had Covid and have been fine.......... is a convenient little narrative for antivaxxers but an asinine one. Come with a better counter than that, man.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

Of course more people have had covid than reported but to suggest most or all Canadians, Yemens or other have had Covid and have been fine.......... is a convenient little narrative for antivaxxers but an asinine one. Come with a better counter than that, man.

Canada has had MORE deaths than Yemen despite similar population size AND significantly lower (non-existent) vaccination rates in Yemen. The numbers don't work in your favor no matter how you try.

 

[Male4Strapon]

Canada has had MORE deaths than Yemen despite similar population size AND significantly lower (non-existent) vaccination rates in Yemen. The numbers don't work in your favor no matter how you try.

Population size is largely irrelevant unless you want to suggest Yemen is doing a better job of controlling spread....... then maybe. I can't argue that because I don't know.

What actually matters and I will use the WorldOMeter stats you provided....

Canada 3,147,209 cases. Of those, 34,956 dead. So one out of every 90 cases ends in death.
Yemen 11,166 cases. Of those 2,208 dead. So one out of every 5 cases ends in death.

So what is the glaring difference that could lead to such a discrepency? Canada is 85% vaccinated, Yemen is 1.2%.
There could be other factors, I don't know much about Yemen's healthcare system. Maybe a portion of those 2200 dead Yemens would have survived if treated in a Canadian hospital. Would a 10% variance appease you? 25%? 50%? Take your pick, the fact remains vaccination efficacy cannot be disputed, not with facts anyhow.

You tell me factually what the numbers reveal rather than pretending all Canadians and all Yemens have been infected and just don't know it. That's like suggesting all humans have been abducted by aliens but only a small few havent had the experience erased from their memories.

 

[PeteOsborne]

Population size is largely irrelevant unless you want to suggest Yemen is doing a better job of controlling spread....... then maybe. I can't argue that because I don't know.

What actually matters and I will use the WorldOMeter stats you provided....

Canada 3,147,209 cases. Of those, 34,956 dead. So one out of every 90 cases ends in death.
Yemen 11,166 cases. Of those 2,208 dead. So one out of every 5 cases ends in death.

So what is the glaring difference that could lead to such a change? Canada is 85% vaccinated, Yemen is 1.2%.
There could be other factors, I don't know much about Yemen's healthcare system. Maybe a portion of those 2200 dead Yemens would have survived if treated in a Canadian hospital. Would a 10% variance appease you? 25%? 50%? Take your pick, the fact remains vaccination efficacy cannot be disputed, not with facts anyhow.

You tell me factually what the numbers reveal rather than pretending all Canadians and all Yemens have been infected and just don't know it. That's like suggesting all humans have been abducted by aliens but only a small few havent had the experience erased from their memories.

Side thought, could an alien female give a decent handjob with her aerial/ tentacles?

 

[mandrill]

Population size is largely irrelevant unless you want to suggest Yemen is doing a better job of controlling spread....... then maybe. I can't argue that because I don't know.

What actually matters and I will use the WorldOMeter stats you provided....

Canada 3,147,209 cases. Of those, 34,956 dead. So one out of every 90 cases ends in death.
Yemen 11,166 cases. Of those 2,208 dead. So one out of every 5 cases ends in death.

So what is the glaring difference that could lead to such a change? Canada is 85% vaccinated, Yemen is 1.2%.
There could be other factors, I don't know much about Yemen's healthcare system. Maybe a portion of those 2200 dead Yemens would have survived if treated in a Canadian hospital. Would a 10% variance appease you? 25%? 50%? Take your pick, the fact remains vaccination efficacy cannot be disputed, not with facts anyhow.

You tell me factually what the numbers reveal rather than pretending all Canadians and all Yemens have been infected and just don't know it. That's like suggesting all humans have been abducted by aliens but only a small few havent had the experience erased from their memories.

How about..... Yemen is a primitive 3rd World country where most sick people don't make it into the hospital and the hospitals don't keep records worth shit and the government doesn't keep stats worth shit?

How about also..... Yemen is 90% desert where nomads roam with their camels and don't meet anyone from outside their own tribe - hence no spread?

 

[mandrill]

Canada has had MORE deaths than Yemen despite similar population size AND significantly lower (non-existent) vaccination rates in Yemen. The numbers don't work in your favor no matter how you try.

Must be that the vaccinations actually INCREASE THE CHANCE OF YOU GETTING COVID AND DYING FROM IT!!!

HOW COULD 96% OF ALL AMERICAN DOCTORS HAVE BEEN SO SILLY AS TO GO OUT AND GET THE SHOT..... AND ARE ALL THOSE 96% DOCTORS DEAD NOW FROM BIG PHARMA'S CUNNING PLOT??? (Maybe all our doctors are now crisis actors wearing skin suits removed from the bodies of our real doctors??!!)

You make silly suggestions, Mr K!

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

LOL baseless claims. I'll wait for the body count in Yemen to reach 5 million.

You take a single country out of dozens that can easily be used to debunk your claim but why bother. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

 

[MONTYY]

Ontario's health minister speaks as province expands rapid test access


Starting Wednesday, province will begin distributing rapid antigen tests at grocery stores, pharmacies

Shows just how far off the mark Ontario is. Its like Ford had no clue what the other Premiers had in mind

 

[PeteOsborne]

Ontario's health minister speaks as province expands rapid test access


Starting Wednesday, province will begin distributing rapid antigen tests at grocery stores, pharmacies

Shows just how far off the mark Ontario is. Its like Ford had no clue what the other Premiers had in mind

Not sure of your point here.
Is it that Ford should go against health officials and ignore Covid like the other Premiers?
Or is it that making free rapid tests for people who want them readily available is a bad idea?

 

[Valcazar]

case fatality rate in Canada is 1.1% so your math is off, that is 98.9%. Might not seem like a big difference but it’s an additional 350 deaths.
More than that, risk of Covid isn’t solely fatal, there is greatly increased risk of Myocarditis and long haul symptoms. Not to mention that for most people, they actually care about not passing it on to loved ones who are at greater risk of severe reaction.
To imply that worry of death is the only reason someone would want to avoid Covid is beyond ignorant.

*Yemen has a 1.2% fully vaccination rate and a 18% case fatality rate. That is what happens without vaccination and that would mean nearly 6.5 million dead Canadians at that rate.

CORRECTION- the above 6.5 million dead is assuming all Canadians had Covid. I should have based it on actual cases which would mean 566,000 dead from Covid in Canada. My mistake.
I left the original post unedited. But the main point remains, 18% case fatality is the minimum we should expect in a theoretical no vaccines Canada, proving it’s overwhelming efficacy.

I have to think that 18% CFR is due to limited or non-existent testing.
That number just doesn't seem in line with other reports.

 

[Male4Strapon]

I have to think that 18% CFR is due to limited or non-existent testing.
That number just doesn't seem in line with other reports.

Possibly but I can only go by stats available.

 

[Valcazar]

Where are you getting your numbers from?

Yemen is a nation of 29 million people, has had 11,000 covid cases, and 2000 dead. These numbers are from the start of the "pandemic" to present day.

Right, that's a case fatality rate of about 18%, just like he said.
2000 deaths out of 11,000 cases.

As I said, this feels like a lack of testing and there were probably many more cases.

 

[MONTYY]

Sweden ends COVID-19 testing as pandemic restrictions lifted

Sweden has halted wide-scale testing for COVID-19 even among people showing symptoms of an infection, putting an end to the mobile city-square tent sites, drive-in swab centres and home-delivered tests that became ubiquitous during the pandemic and provided essential data for tracking its spread.

The move puts the Scandinavian nation at odds with most of Europe, but some experts say it could become the norm as costly testing yields fewer benefits with the easily transmissible but milder Omicron variant and as governments begin to consider treating COVID-19 like they do other endemic illnesses.

"We have reached a point where the cost and relevance of the testing is no longer justifiable." Swedish Public Health Agency chief Karin Tegmark Wisell told the national broadcast SVT this week.

 

[Valcazar]

yes, I have since acknowledged that I erred in comparing to Canada that I was doing so if all Canadians had Covid. That is obviously not the case, and likewise not all in Yemen have Covid.
However the math remains correct and indisputable: vaccinations make a massive difference, 18% case fatality rate would mean over half a million Canadians (of 3.148 million cases) died from Covid rather than 35000.
Vaccination has brought our fatality rate to 1.1%

That's also unlikely.
There are also improvements in treatment that Canada may or may not have more access to.

Vaccines were never the only element in play.

 

[Valcazar]

because it's a fat people killer.

Evidence please.
Use real numbers.
Tell me if "being fat" is a more important risk factor than say... age.

 

[MONTYY]

Not sure of your point here.
Is it that Ford should go against health officials and ignore Covid like the other Premiers?
Or is it that making free rapid tests for people who want them readily available is a bad idea?

Others are doing away with testing, Ontario feels that more testing is required even thought case counts are on the decline.

WHO noted that cases counts world wide are down 17% versus last week and down 50% in the States.

Testing does nothing to stop or slow the spread so why waste the money buying tests. Ontario does not even track the test results.