I think the Freedom Convoy may have already accomplished something…

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I will probably regret asking this but I keep reading here from some about his cowardice…… but why exactly is he a coward? If you’re buying the narrative that it’s because he won’t meet with protest organizers, than it is not cowardice. In fact it’s the responsible and logical move. It’s the only move. No national leader would meet this group when you know who the organizers are.

he may be a coward, I really don’t know, but it’s definitely not because he refuses to meet with the convoy people
I can explain. In USA the worst insult you can spit out is coward. It has nothing to do with bravery or the lack hereof, it is simply a word you use about someone you intensely dislike.
 

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I will probably regret asking this but I keep reading here from some about his cowardice…… but why exactly is he a coward? If you’re buying the narrative that it’s because he won’t meet with protest organizers, than it is not cowardice. In fact it’s the responsible and logical move. It’s the only move. No national leader would meet this group when you know who the organizers are.

he may be a coward, I really don’t know, but it’s definitely not because he refuses to meet with the convoy people
yes, it is because he refuses to meet. Those are Canadian citizens that protests in Ottawa and, regardless who organisers are, many of the protesters are regular people and many other regular people support them. So, it is his job to listen to them, not just hide and let police deal with it. He is afraid of dialogue because, no mater how it will go, it will not help his political career. So, yes, he is a coward who protects his numbers and cares about reelection more than about people. He is also incompetent and, if he will have to improvise during the dialogue, he will show it once again.
 
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yes, it is because he refuses to meet. Those are Canadian citizens that protests in Ottawa and, regardless who organisers are, many of the protesters are regular people and many other regular people support them. So, it is his job to listen to them, not just hide and let police deal with it. He is afraid of dialogue because, no mater how it will go, it will not help his political career. So, yes, he is a coward who protects his numbers and cares about reelection more than about people. He is also incompetent and, if he will have to improvise during the dialogue, he will show it once again.
It is OK. No harm done. If Trudeau is that incompetent, he surely will not be reelected. Who do you think will form the next Government? Conservatives or NDP, or maybe PQ?
 
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yes, it is because he refuses to meet. Those are Canadian citizens that protests in Ottawa and, regardless who organisers are, many of the protesters are regular people and many other regular people support them. So, it is his job to listen to them, not just hide and let police deal with it. He is afraid of dialogue because, no mater how it will go, it will not help his political career. So, yes, he is a coward who protects his numbers and cares about reelection more than about people. He is also incompetent and, if he will have to improvise during the dialogue, he will show it once again.
But they aren't truckers, they are separatists and alt right types. 160,000 Canadians got the jab while 8,000 angry anti-vaxxers shit and pissed in Ottawa.
The demanded JT resign, you think he should have met with them to discuss this?

Now that the money is gone they'll disappear.
This wave is almost done and all the covid lockdowns will end.

There was zero need to meet with these people.
 

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I can explain. In USA the worst insult you can spit out is coward. It has nothing to do with bravery or the lack hereof, it is simply a word you use about someone you intensely dislike.
I thought the worst words were 'socialist' or 'leftist'.
 

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It is OK. No harm done. If Trudeau is that incompetent, he surely will not be reelected. Who do you think will form the next Government? Conservatives or NDP, or maybe PQ?
Liberals. I just hope they will get someone smarter as a PM. But, on the other hand, Canadians are pretty much brainwashed starting from early school years, so, they can elect any idiot as long as he is a "Liberal". But, at some point, they will get sick of such idiocrasy and will vote anyone else but Trudeau. Similar to Americans who got sick of "establishment candidates" and voted fro Trump over Hillary.
 

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yes, it is because he refuses to meet. Those are Canadian citizens that protests in Ottawa and, regardless who organisers are, many of the protesters are regular people and many other regular people support them. So, it is his job to listen to them, not just hide and let police deal with it. He is afraid of dialogue because, no mater how it will go, it will not help his political career. So, yes, he is a coward who protects his numbers and cares about reelection more than about people. He is also incompetent and, if he will have to improvise during the dialogue, he will show it once again.
the organizers have nothing to do with trucking! How is he supposed to meet with them, representing an industry they are not affiliated with?
This macho “he’s a coward” bullshit is so absurd it’s laughable. He’s the leader of a nation, not a high schooler who needs to demonstrate how tough and brave he is.

say you own a company that manufactures widgets and your biggest client says your product is defective. It would behoove you to meet with him but if he says he is sending his wacky neighbour instead who has nothing to do with his business and knows nothing about widgets….. are you going to take that seriously? Now add to that this same neighbour he wants you to meet hangs in questionable circles, including some that have gone as far as to call for your murder.

Truckers who truly want their concerns heard hitched their trailer to the wrong rig. That’s on them because it was obvious to everyone in advance including the actual Canadian trucking industry.
JT will NEVER deal with these organizers, so if this cause means this much to them they need to distance themselves from Lich & Co.
Now that they aren’t likely to see that gofundme money, now is the time to end their association with her, they have nothing to gain from her.
form a committee of proper representatives and get their shit together….. no harassing locals, no assaulting people For wearing a mask or any other reason. Do the opposite and try to support the local community and not be assholes throughout this.
Build support for the cause not burn it all away so that the organizer can have her pipe dream of JT resigning and handing her the keys to the country.
 

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But they aren't truckers, they are separatists and alt right types. 160,000 Canadians got the jab while 8,000 angry anti-vaxxers shit and pissed in Ottawa.
The demanded JT resign, you think he should have met with them to discuss this?

Now that the money is gone they'll disappear.
This wave is almost done and all the covid lockdowns will end.

There was zero need to meet with these people.
So, they rent trucks just to come to Ottawa? Have you ever read what you write???
 

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So, they rent trucks just to come to Ottawa? Have you ever read what you write???
he’s referring to the organizers of the protest, although most of convoy was mostly regular family vehicles as opposed to trucks
 

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the organizers have nothing to do with trucking! How is he supposed to meet with them, representing an industry they are not affiliated with?
This macho “he’s a coward” bullshit is so absurd it’s laughable. He’s the leader of a nation, not a high schooler who needs to demonstrate how tough and brave he is.

say you own a company that manufactures widgets and your biggest client says your product is defective. It would behoove you to meet with him but if he says he is sending his wacky neighbour who has nothing to do with hi business and knows nothing about widgets….. are you going to take that seriously? Now add to that this same neighbour he wants you to meet hangs in questionable circles, including some that have gone as far as to call for your murder.

Truckers who truly want their concerns heard hitched their trailer to the wrong rig. That’s on them because it was obvious to everyone in advance including the actual Canadian trucking industry.
JT will NEVER deal with these organizers, so if this cause means this much to them they need to distance themselves from Lich & Co.
Now that they aren’t likely to see that gofundme money, now is the time to end their association with her, they have nothing to gain from her.
form a committee of proper representatives and get their shit together….. no harassing locals, no assaulting people For wearing a mask or any other reason. Do the opposite and try to support the local community and not be assholes throughout this.
Build support for the cause not burn it all away so that the organizer can have her pipe dream of JT resigning and handing her the keys to the country.
How about just addressing the crowd? In person. And answer their questions. Even if such questions will include vulgar language. Just go there. Does he really think anyone will assassinate him? They are Canadian Citizens who are protesting. No matter who organised the protest, people who actually came to Ottawa deserve to see their PM. Hiding from people is cowardliness
 

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How about just addressing the crowed? In person. And answer their questions. Even if such questions will include vulgar language. Just go there. Does he really think anyone will assassinate him? They are Canadian Citizens who are protesting. No matter who organised the protest, people who actually came to Ottawa deserve to see their PM. Hiding from people is cowardliness
because doing so gives credibility to the organizers, credibility that they do not deserve.
Even if they have the thought that he might somehow agree to a public address to them, their unruly behaviour (to put it mildly) eliminated any hope of that.
They’re a disorganized mess and need someone with credentials to represent them, not the Wexit jokers. This rally never stood a chance because of its organizers. Any hope for progress only begins when the truckers disavow them and take control of the message and of the hooligans hurting their cause. I do believe that it’s a few bad apples but they have to stop those bad apples themselves, not blindly support them
 

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I'm a Trudeau supporter and I say he's a coward for not enacting the Canada Emergencies Act and labeling those radical truckers terrorists and throwing them in Federal prison and forcefully vaccinating them. But you righties aren't ever grateful that Trudeau will never do that. Legault (as much as I don't like him) has balls if he was PM he would do it.
 

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It is OK. No harm done. If Trudeau is that incompetent, he surely will not be reelected. Who do you think will form the next Government? Conservatives or NDP, or maybe PQ?
that is absurd logic
He has been re-elected twice
do you think Trudeaus incompetence varies with time ?
he has been a moron all his life and will be a moron for the rest of it
morons do not take off from being stupid and incompetent


No harm done
The moron has done a great deal of harm, Canadians have never been this divided and he deliberately stokes the division
Justin Trudeau is the worst Prime Minister in Canadian history
everything this man touches turns to shit
 

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By Monday, police should evict all the squtters in Toronto and Ottawa........ this temper tantrum has played itself out and it only gets ugly from here. Political power is not wielded by the moron with the loudest foghorn..... the message has been duly noted and eventually the restrictions will be lifted ( but not overnight).
 

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that is absurd logic
He has been re-elected twice
do you think Trudeaus incompetence varies with time ?
he has been a moron all his life and will be a moron for the rest of it
morons do not take off from being stupid and incompetent



The moron has done a great deal of harm, Canadians have never been this divided and he deliberately stokes the division
Justin Trudeau is the worst Prime Minister in Canadian history
everything this man touches turns to shit
Your hyperbole just makes you look like a fool. Maybe he's not quite as moronic as you think. ...
 
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yes, it is because he refuses to meet. Those are Canadian citizens that protests in Ottawa and, regardless who organisers are, many of the protesters are regular people and many other regular people support them. So, it is his job to listen to them, not just hide and let police deal with it. He is afraid of dialogue because, no mater how it will go, it will not help his political career. So, yes, he is a coward who protects his numbers and cares about reelection more than about people. He is also incompetent and, if he will have to improvise during the dialogue, he will show it once again.
But the protestors have nothing to actually do with the trucking industry. They are organized by a dude who has publicly announced that he hates Jews and Asians. And the "manifesto" of the fake protestors is that they want the governor-general and senate to disband Parliament. And they are so harassive and violent that GFM has taken down their funding page.

Trudeau is busy being Prime Minister. He doesn't have time to meet with weirdos, racists and idiots. Unlike them, he has a real job.
 

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But the protestors have nothing to actually do with the trucking industry. They are organized by a dude who has publicly announced that he hates Jews and Asians. And the "manifesto" of the fake protestors is that they want the governor-general and senate to disband Parliament. And they are so harassive and violent that GFM has taken down their funding page.

Trudeau is busy being Prime Minister. He doesn't have time to meet with weirdos, racists and idiots. Unlike them, he has a real job.
Dude, huh? So he wears a cowboy hat?...
 
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