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It's nice to see America with competent leadership after 4 years of a dangerous bumbling idiot. Go Joe!
Joe was probably opposed to it, just like he was opposed to taking out Bin Laden.
 
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Actually the guy blew himself up but hey give credit to Joe all you want.
You must live in fairy tale land because all I see coming out of the Obama/Harris/Biden administration is gross incompetence.
 

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It’s nice to see America with competent leadership… Go Joe!
At least six children killed as Biden says Isis leader blew himself up in US raid
 
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This guy just like OBL always surrounded himself with women and children.
 

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Joe was probably opposed to it, just like he was opposed to taking out Bin Laden.
So, you think because he wanted to get more information to confirm Bin Laden was in that compound that he opposed taking out Bin Laden? That is an interesting jump in logic. If you're ever around senior executives (C-level) and board meetings, there can be instances where people are yes men. They don't push back on things that might be risky. I'd argue having someone who takes a different view, or pushes back on things like this is needed. It could open up thoughts about the possible consequences of failure (which is what Biden was apparently worried about). I mean, they literally invaded Pakistan's sovereignty. What would have happened if they levelled the house and it turned out not to be OBL but a rich Pakistani opium farmer or something like that?
 

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So, you think because he wanted to get more information to confirm Bin Laden was in that compound that he opposed taking out Bin Laden? That is an interesting jump in logic. If you're ever around senior executives (C-level) and board meetings, there can be instances where people are yes men. They don't push back on things that might be risky. I'd argue having someone who takes a different view, or pushes back on things like this is needed. It could open up thoughts about the possible consequences of failure (which is what Biden was apparently worried about). I mean, they literally invaded Pakistan's sovereignty. What would have happened if they levelled the house and it turned out not to be OBL but a rich Pakistani opium farmer or something like that?
You haven't fooled me into thinking you've spent much time in corporate boardrooms. Your use of language betrays you.

The point is that Biden was hesitant about Bin Laden, rightly or wrongly motivated. He has a history of being wishy washy and then trying to take credit for someone else's decisiveness. FFS, in the current instance, he's taking credit for the target blowing himself up, as if that occurence is some reflection of his decisive leadership!

Great leaders have to make tough choices within tight windows, usually based on information which is far from complete. Biden is simply not cut out for the office he holds.
 

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You haven't fooled me into thinking you've spent much time in corporate boardrooms. Your use of language betrays you.

The point is that Biden was hesitant about Bin Laden, rightly or wrongly motivated. He has a history of being wishy washy and then trying to take credit for someone else's decisiveness. FFS, in the current instance, he's taking credit for the target blowing himself up, as if that occurence is some reflection of his decisive leadership!

Great leaders have to make tough choices within tight windows, usually based on information which is far from complete. Biden is simply not cut out for the office he holds.
First, I think you can understand that I don't use the same language here as I would, and I can honestly say I've seen a lot of time in corporate boardrooms for major companies.

As for Biden, being prudent isn't being wishy washy. He wanted more time to confirm the ID of OBL. At the time the US couldn't say for sure it was him. So, I think he could make the difficult decisions, actually, I'm sure he already has. So, spare me your armchair quarterbacking for what you think or don't think he did.

As for this dude blowing himself up....do you think he might have done it to avoid capture??? I mean, sounds reasonable to me. So, the credit does go to Biden for launching the assault.
 
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First, I think you can understand that I don't use the same language here as I would, and I can honestly say I've seen a lot of time in corporate boardrooms for major companies.

As for Biden, being prudent isn't being wishy washy. He wanted more time to confirm the ID of OBL. At the time the US couldn't say for sure it was him. So, I think he could make the difficult decisions, actually, I'm sure he already has. So, spare me your armchair quarterbacking for what you think or don't think he did.

As for this dude blowing himself up....do you think he might have done it to avoid capture??? I mean, sounds reasonable to me. So, the credit does go to Biden for launching the assault.
So was Obama right to green light the hit on Bin Laden? Or was he rash? Should he have listened to Charlie Brown's spirit animal - Sleepy Joe Biden?
 

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So was Obama right to green light the hit on Bin Laden? Or was he rash? Should he have listened to Charlie Brown's spirit animal - Sleepy Joe Biden?
Of course Obama was right. Do you think incompetent Trump would make the same choice? The point here is that Biden was giving a different opinion. That is a pretty useful thing. When you get surrounded by ass kissers, like the Donald did, you get an echo chamber effect. That could explain his gross negligence in the pandemic response. Obama was a very smart president who relied on his VP to make counter arguments. If you don't see the value in that, then I can't help you. But go on, keep trying to paint Biden as someone who can't get things done, despite his legislative record like passing the infrastructure bill.
 
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But go on, keep trying to paint Biden as someone who can't get things done, despite his legislative record like passing the infrastructure bill.
Wow, that's Alice in Wonderland stuff. I thought even people on the left agree that Biden achieved virtually nothing before becoming President, and almost none of his agenda as President (despite DEM control over both houses). If you see the world through convex lenses, no wonder you post as you do.
 

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Wow, that's Alice in Wonderland stuff. I thought even people on the left agree that Biden achieved virtually nothing before becoming President, and almost none of his agenda as President (despite DEM control over both houses). If you see the world through convex lenses, no wonder you post as you do.
First, Biden has done more for the US in his first year than Trump just by passing the infrastructure bill. Second, When did Biden control the senate? If there was no filibuster, sure, you would have quite the argument there. But, unlike Moscow Mitch, the Dems have been reluctant to scrap it to pass things like the BBB. And it is easy for you to say he achieved nothing before becoming president...except for the fact he was a senator and vice-president before that. Those seem like achievements. He is also co-authored hundreds of bills that passed. Not all were great, like the one that looked to ban burning the flag. Your whole argument is based on right-wing conspiracy theories or slander -- "Sleepy" Joe or what not. Reality outside the right-wing fever swamp is a hell of a thing, you might wanna try it sometime.
 

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He must have known to many secrets about USA.
 

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First, Biden has done more for the US in his first year than Trump just by passing the infrastructure bill. Second, When did Biden control the senate? If there was no filibuster, sure, you would have quite the argument there. But, unlike Moscow Mitch, the Dems have been reluctant to scrap it to pass things like the BBB. And it is easy for you to say he achieved nothing before becoming president...except for the fact he was a senator and vice-president before that. Those seem like achievements. He is also co-authored hundreds of bills that passed. Not all were great, like the one that looked to ban burning the flag. Your whole argument is based on right-wing conspiracy theories or slander -- "Sleepy" Joe or what not. Reality outside the right-wing fever swamp is a hell of a thing, you might wanna try it sometime.
Really? The infrastructure bill is spread out over ten years and contains mostly stuff to help big business move more stuff to consumers. It is less that 1/7 of what they apptived for the YEARLY military budget, let alone the 14 intelligence agencies presently in operation. It was Chamber of Commerce approved, hence GOP support.

So big construction companies get more money, who will have to continue to pay off politicians to get the contracts, then over charge to make up the money.

And income inequality, healthcare, and other basic needs get nothing again.
 

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It's nice to see America with competent leadership after 4 years of a dangerous bumbling idiot. Go Joe!
You're not well informed. Although I think sleepy Joe did a good job going after this fellow, Trump assassinated the biggest Iranian general at the Baghdad airport a few years ago. Look up Qasem Soleimani, this Isis guy is a small fish compared to Soleimani.

While you're at it look up also Abu Bakr al Baghdadi the leader of Isis, much bigger fish than the guy they just killed. Also killed by Trump's administration.
 
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Really? The infrastructure bill is spread out over ten years and contains mostly stuff to help big business move more stuff to consumers. It is less that 1/7 of what they apptived for the YEARLY military budget, let alone the 14 intelligence agencies presently in operation. It was Chamber of Commerce approved, hence GOP support.

So big construction companies get more money, who will have to continue to pay off politicians to get the contracts, then over charge to make up the money.

And income inequality, healthcare, and other basic needs get nothing again.
It is still a win for the American people. They use roads. They need water pipes. Rural areas will get broadband internet. Is it perfect, of course not. And the GOP did not support it, only 19 GOP senators voted for it, coincidentally, ones who face an election in November. The reality here is, the bill helps the poor, middle class and businesses.

Now, I agree, the military budget is just CRAZY!!! It boggles my mind they spend that kind of money when just a fraction of it could improve their schools and healthcare system....
 

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At least six children killed as Biden says Isis leader blew himself up in US raid
SoBiden sent in the Marines… great job! And rather than wait to get shot, he blew himself up? As long as he’s dead, I’m happy.
 
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It is still a win for the American people. They use roads. They need water pipes. Rural areas will get broadband internet. Is it perfect, of course not. And the GOP did not support it, only 19 GOP senators voted for it, coincidentally, ones who face an election in November. The reality here is, the bill helps the poor, middle class and businesses.

Now, I agree, the military budget is just CRAZY!!! It boggles my mind they spend that kind of money when just a fraction of it could improve their schools and healthcare system....
It hasn't happened yet. A good portion of the money will end up in more local hands. Where it will be redirected to wealthier neighbourhood improvements. They don't say where the stuff will be built. And the Feds will just hand money over. Then the lobbyists get in there. Donors. Developers. And pretty soon its gone. Thats the reality of infrastructure in the USA.
 

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SoBiden sent in the Marines… great job! And rather than wait to get shot, he blew himself up? As long as he’s dead, I’m happy.
You’re happy with the killing of children? Congrats you’re officially a member of one of the lowest forms of humanity, a person who is happy with the killing of children. Writing this makes me want to scrub my hands clean.
 
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